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Nintendo UK: N64 games on Switch online will be 60hz English versions (select games will have a 50hz option)
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Panajev2001a
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Scanlines, if properly implemented/emulated, ensure you see the graphics as they were meant to be seen. The designers optimised the sprites to be seen as intended when displayed on CRT’s with scanlines… so not the same thing
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Scanlines, if properly implemented, ensure you see the graphics as they were meant to be seen. He designers optimised the sprites to be seen as intended when displayed on CRT’s with scanlines… so not the same thing
I was just thinking about this. I am extremely impressed with how Capcom Arcade Stadium handles the filters. Playing Strider on that is perfection.
yes play runs at higher resolution, but this just means a letter boxed image on anything from Japan
Deerock71
Member
Scanlines, if properly implemented, ensure you see the graphics as they were meant to be seen. He designers optimised the sprites to be seen as intended when displayed on CRT’s with scanlines… so not the same thing
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I am thinking about trying more games on it then, I admit I have not given it enough time, but this is a big plus.
Georges Chiellins
Member
Still no price for this?
Sean Mirrsen
Banned
Indeed. There was this one image used as comparison of what the designers intended you to see, versus how it looks on modern displays.Scanlines, if properly implemented/emulated, ensure you see the graphics as they were meant to be seen. The designers optimised the sprites to be seen as intended when displayed on CRT’s with scanlines… so not the same thing
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
You live on planet Europe, now eat your pizza cat
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93xfan
Banned
Indeed. There was this one image used as comparison of what the designers intended you to see, versus how it looks on modern displays.
What a difference! Personally I love the scab line filter in Castlevania and Contra collections. They have that blur/pixel bleed that represents what I saw on a mid-lower end to in the late 80s/early 90s
spons
Gold Member
Europe is the UK's rightful clay. God bless the Queen.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
MeatSafeMurderer
Member
Technically yes (but lines, not pixels, CRTs don't have pixels), 576 lines vs 480 lines (or 288 vs 240 in progressive)...but in reality that usually just ended in the game rendering at the original 240/480i, then being displayed inside the 288/576i window with no scaling, causing the image to be vertically squished.
StateofMajora
Banned
I’m not sure why I never thought of this, but yeesh games like ocarina Must have been bad. What was it, like, 17fps with spikes up and down constantly? Plus the regular drops.
Neff
Member
From the way it's worded, you'll be able to choose to play the NTSC version in Europe, regardless of where you live. If you specifically want a non-English version though, you're SOL, because your version literally doesn't exist in NTSC.
CapnAmaricrunch
Banned
is hz somehow related to frame rate? will mario kart 64 be 60 fps?
Neff
Member
Refresh rate, not framerate. So no.
Portugeezer
Member
60Hz dictates the maximum possible framerate, which would be 60fps.
But a lot of N64 games were 30 or 20fps (which was 25 or 17fps for 50Hz PAL), and they will continue to be 30 or 20fps.
CapnAmaricrunch
Banned
People are in for a suprise if Nintendo doesnt up the framerate, mario kart 64 feels like its in slow motion, not the way you and I remember it, legit.
Drell
Member
The thing is that PAL is badly viewed because 90% of the games ported in europe back then were just slowed down letterboxed versions of the US/JAP version. But PAL actually traded 10 fps for a better resolution (576 lines versus the "standard" 480 of NTSC). When UK or EU developers like Rare took advantage of the PAL format, we had Fullscreen games with a slightly higher res and game speed adapted to have the same pace as the NTSC version. PAL was only bad because non-EU devs didn't took the time to properly adapt their games.
MrFunSocks
Banned
Yeh but as an Australian that had 50hz games I’d rather the 60hz than the higher resolution because most games just literally ran games slower instead of simply changing the refresh rate. Games like WWF smack down on PS1 for example were like night and day. I imported the US version and it ran 20% faster than the AU version.
Kokoloko85
Member
…. I wish we got the Zelda Collection rumoured
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Elbow Identity Shallow
Member
What I read in the press release was not that there will be a 50Hz option in some games, that seems to have confused some people.
The reason that services have often used PAL games in modern systems is because the PAL versions of could have been translated into five or six different languages so if somebody would rather play in their home language rather than in English then they will still be able to play that version rather than playing the American or Japanese versions of the games which will both be NTSC rather than PAL.
I know that Lylat Wars had options for English, French, German and perhaps most interestingly Lylat in PAL territories.