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Nintendo Voice Chat: Episode Thrii...

Milabrega

Member
Ign said:
Looking for some Wii-related voice chat? Well, you're not going to find it, sucker -- that is, unless you download the Nintendo Voice Chat podcast. Hey, it's better than nothing, are we right?

This week, Matt, Mark and Craig chat all things Nintendo, starting with a recent hands-on with De Blob, Matt's experience with Okami Wii, Bozon's trip to Wrestlemania to check out the Wii and DS versions of SmackDown! vs. Raw 2009, and much more.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/863/863499p1.html

Nintendo Media Summit April 10th-11th. Sega Will also be there to show off stuff.


Kid Icarus is confirmed by everyone but Nintendo, Deal.

Sorry for the Wii pun in the title.

Summary said:
Smackdown Vs Raw 2009 (DS):
-"Suprisingly awesome" Bozon. Hopes they add Traditional controls.
-Theres an overworld area with RPG features like arm strength etc.
-Motion controls to do moves. D-Pad to move
-"Looks like No Mercy on DS" Bozon. Looks good.
-Single Player only

Smackdown VS Raw 2009 (Wii):
-Wii and DS game look almost identical, same developer
-30 new match types. Flaming Table/Barbed Wire.
-Online for the first time, big focus.
-Interactive entrances/Finishing moves. Gimmicky at the moment.
-A lot of Motion Controls
-Online sides like it might be 1 v 1, or a tag team something simply this year from Bozon's talk with devs.
-Wii Vs Next-Gen... No Creative Finisher. Aside from the roster, nothing is going to be the same, treated as a different project than the next-gen games.

Okami:
-Matt, "Lacks the Polish Twilight Princess had."
-Matt, "Going to get a real high score. It is a GOTY."
-Significant slowdown here or there.

We Love Golf:
-60fps, Widescreen.
-Measures Power of your shot.
-The HUD shows if you hook your shot by tilting the wii-mote really well
-Generic non-Capcom franchise characters
-Mii usage.
-You don't unlock Franchise characters, you unlock costumes.
-Camelot's original pitch was to use all Capcom characters, Capcom said no.

Japanese WiiWare Launch:
-Underwhelming. No real stand out launch title.
-Pokemon game is just really shallow.
-Dr. Mario Cool. Transfer the Demo for multiplayer. Still requires FC, real pain in the ass.
-Star Soldier R fun but shallow. A 5 min level and a 2 minute level for 8 bucks. No arcade mode.
-King's Story is cool
-Games that don't even use the wiimote. (Solitaire)
-U.S. Launch will stomp the Japanese Launch
-Lost Winds, First footage Friday.
-Not Xbox Live quality.
-Dr. Mario is Badass.
-Defend your Castle is looking like it might be the geometry wars of WiiWare. Dev interview, trailer and new SS coming tomorrow. $5.

De Blob:
-THQ Gamer's Day later this week
-Splatters are more defined, textures to them now.
-More Funky music, by some popular Australian band
-Frame rate isn't there yet.

Deadly Creatures
-Exclusives and Coverage coming Wednesday.
-Real Gameplay.

Lock Nation:
-Made by drawn to life guys, real time strategy
-Screens are waiting around office for NDA to lift
-Was suppose to be IGN exclusive announcement, Nintendo Power beat em to it.
-Lock Nation title has been changed already, new name not announced.

Chocobo Dungeon Wii:
-Announced...Dungeon Crawl. Its that S/E game they were eluding too.
-Wifi Card Battle, Pop-up book style

Virtual Console:
-Cruis'n Usa - Non-Japanese third party game.
-Theres a reason it didn't come out before Cruis'n Wii. VC one blows it away


Nintendo Media Summit April 10th-11th


Questions:
-Has EA hired some 4th rate studio to port NHL '08 to the Wii? ~ They hope so. Haven't asked ea about that yet, they know nothing about it
-Sonic Chronicles News? ~ Soonish, Ign will have something early before the Media Summit. A video
-Smackdown VS Raw 2009 better than the Xbox 1 games? ~ Looks a little bit better. ATI the No mercy guys, the company is basically gone. Better looking than xbox 1.... Bozon "no, different styles"
-Nintendo Power Okami 7.5 due to control problems? ~ Only the Strafe move is ehh, everything else is fine, Matt is baffled. Controls is much improved, would only ever play it again with Wiimote, brush is awesome with Wiimote
-Any AAA 3rd party games releasing in '08? ~ Okami, Boom Blox, Wii Love Golf. Deadly Creatures, De Blob could go either way.
-E3 Predictions? ~ "Kid is back, baby" Bozon. "We will see Kid Icarus" Matt. Something from retro, perhaps Pikmin, but those two are just based on hope not fact.
-Classic Nintendo Franchise returning that you mentioned? ~ It was Kid Icarus before we were allowed to say it, but now we are.
-De Blob Nice concept? ~ It is. They are not really using the Wiimote functionality at all. The loading screen uses the Pointer to paint and its really working perfectly. Matt wonders why that isn't anywhere in the game.
-WiiWare getting better 3rd party games? ~ "Not based on japanese launch, *laughter*". The potential is there. Innovation machine is being turned on. Your going to have your classics coming down the pipes.
-WiiWare getting better games why? ~ Your getting passionate devs looking to break into the industry or make a name for themselves on WiiWare and not trying to make a quick buck.
-Adult(XXX) Game? ~ There are Japanese updates out there.
-Why VC games trickle 2/3 a week with 10,000+ in library? ~ Jokes about Fridge Filling up too fast.
-Voicechat accessable from main menu? ~ A very quick and powerful "NO". They think it may not be a standard for wii ever. Some games will use it through in game.
-Wii Motorsports? ~ May see it this year or next. No real idea. It just seems to make sense
-Guitar Hero DS? ~ Hope you don't have to stroke the string on screen, hope its just tap.
-No way to play a cup online with 3+Racers ? ~ Nope, individual race selected. Random is possible.
-Pikmin 3 must have changes? ~ Online Mode. Wiimote Functionality.

~Fin.
 
I'll make a summary too. It's been too long.

Summary

Smackdown vs Raw 2008
DS version
- Weren't able to go hands on with it, but the DS version seems to be turning out great - just needs traditional control and fine-tuning.
- Developed by the makers of Rocket Slime. There's actually an RPG system with an overworld system where you upgrade certain aspects of your character (eg: arm strength, leg strength, etc).
- Looks great - like No Mercy on DS. Phenomenal 3D models. Lots of cinematic stuff with the camera.
- Single-player only. It's really only supposed to be an "RPG." Matt thinks this might piss some people off.
- Needs traditional controls. Touch screen controls work alright but traditional controls really are needed.
- Also contains Create A Superstar for the first time. Hopefully this turns out to be the first good portable wrestling game.

Wii version
- Looks almost indentical to last year.
- Lots of motion used - control recognition has been refined. Uses a lot more motion than most Wii games.
- Still playing catchup, but this year there is over 30 new match types (eg: barbed wire).
- The wonky Success Mode is gone, replaced by Career Mode which is the same as what you will get on PS3/360.
- Online play for the first time on Wii. It will probably be quite bare-bones but it's a start.
- Interactive entrances and finishes. Sounds gimmicky but it sounds like it could be fun. You can continue to beat your opponent even after a match.
- Create-a-finisher and some other PS3/360 content will not be in the Wii version. The Wii version is an entirely different beast.

Okami
- Matt has been playing a lot of it. Over 10 hours into it. It's a very long, epic game.
- Having a lot of fun with it, finds it not as good as Twilight Princess in terms of level design and dungeons, but still a worthy contender.
- Likes the fact that you can use new abilities a lot after acquiring them. Beats TP in this regard.
- Looks amazing. 16x9 and with paper filter. The paper filter isn't as pronounced as the PS2 version but the Wii version looks better due to more sharp, vibrant visuals. The only noticeable flaw is that the framerate has received little improvement from the PS2 version.
- Paintbrush controls work wonderful. Makes you think "why was this on PS2?" Controls definitely add to the experience.
- Will score very high and is was worthy of winning Game of the Year, despite being arguably inferior to Twilight Princess.
- Buy this game. Capcom may have future Wii games that bank on the sales of games such as these. It's a great game, comes at a great price and everyone must buy it.

We Love Golf/Camelot
- Camelot are very understanding of what a good Wii game requires.
- HUD starts off cluttered to give you a tutorial but you can remove this as you move through the game.
- Measures the power of your shot, but also measures the angle of your shot by twisting the remote. Works really well.
- If you work with it, you can have traditional control accuracy with the tactile feedback of motion controls. Shows Golf games can work on Wii, and work great.
- One problem is that the characters, other than those with Capcom costumes, are really generic. The original pitch was that Camelot wanted a Capcom golf game, but Capcom didn't want that. The artist was such a huge Capcom fan that he really wanted a Capcom presence to remain in the final project.
- Think that even if there was a Mario Golf, it wouldn't be as jam-packed as We Love Golf. This game has a ton of content.
- Looks to be very worthy of a purchase.

Japanese launch of WiiWare
- Underwhelming - there were no true standout products (only FFCC makes a solid presence).
- Dr. Mario, Ping Pong and Star Soldier are solid, but stripped down. Star Soldier doesn't even have the arcade mode, so it's limited to 2 different levels which are either 2mins or 5 mins. That's it. It costs too much for what it is, despite the fact that it's good fun.
- Most games on the channel so far are incredibly shallow, in particular Solitaire and Pokemon Ranch. Some games make little to no use of the remote.
- When the channel comes out in USA, it will likely have a much better lineup of games.
- More complaints about the lack of voice chat and the Friend Code system.
- WiiWare isn't XBLA quality as of yet. Hopefully the situation improves, and it should with promising games such as Lost Winds.
- Defend Your Castle coverage coming soon - interview, videos, etc. Only costs 5 bucks, great framerate and runs fast, terrific style.

de Blob/Deadly Creatures
- Got to play it exclusively before THQ's upcoming Gamer's Day. Posted a preview today which provides information and impressions on the game.
- It's coming together visually - the splatters have textures and are more defined. The water effects shimmer and look better than before.
- Added new music developed by a popular band in Australia. Gives the game a funky feel.
- One apparent flaw is that the game doesn't have a solid framerate yet. Hopefully this improves by release.
- This, along with Deadly Creatures, are both really promising games from THQ.
- There will be coverage of Deadly Creatures, hopefully on Wednesday. They will show real gameplay for the first time, making this the game's first true unveiling.
- Also expect Battle of the Band coverage soon.

Chocobo's Dungeon
- There is now Wifi card battles, which worked well on DS and hopefully translates well on Wii.

Virtual Console
- Wonderboy, which came out on Master System. It's the first Master System game to come out on the channel.
- Cruis'n USA, despite coming out years ago, is still much much better than Cruis'n on Wii. This is probably why it came out after Cruis'n, because it blows it away.

Reader Questions
Q: Has EA signed any 4th rate studio to develop the PS2 port of NHL for Wii?
A: Boznn wants to see PESWii controls for the Wii version. They have no idea whether it's coming.

Q: Any new information coming out for Sonic Chronicles?
A: New coverage and videos should be coming soon.

Nintendo Media Summit coming out on April 10 and 11.

Q: What new direction would you like for the Zelda series?
A: Want to see a new direction for the series - the core game has been the same for a while now. Darker, more moody. Want them to use the wii remote to its full potential.

Q: Will Smackdown vs Raw 2008 look better than the Xbox games?
A: It looks about the same as last year, maybe character models have been slightly improved. Day of Reckoning might appear better in screens but the style is different.

Q: Thoughts on Rock Band Wii?
A: Looks like a very rushed port. Very disappointed. Sales might reflect the lack of effort.

Q: Thoughts on Nintendo Power giving Okami a 7.5?
A: Can't comprehend it. The only control flaw is the strafe move mapped to the nunchuk. Everything plays much better than it did on PS2 - puts it to shame. Would only play it with the Wii remote.

Q: Any 3rd party AAA games releasing this year for Wii?
A: Okami, obviously. Boom Blocks looks great. We Love Golf is the definitive golf game on the system. de Blob looks very promising. Deadly Creatures has potential but there are questions marks on it, they'll find out more soon. We should know a lot more on 3rd party and 1st party games as the year progresses, even though thus far it seems a bit weak.

Q: Predictions for E3?
A: Expect to see Kid Icarus. Definitely Wii Music. Maybe something from Retro, if it's far enough in development. Hopefully Animal Crossing and Pikmin.

Q: Is the returning Nintendo franchise for Wii coming in 2008?
A: That was Kid Icarus. We'll find out more soon enough.

Q: Have you tried Mario Kart online yet?
A: Not yet no. NOA hasn't allowed it yet.

Is de Blob more than just a nice concept?
A: It's a very promising game. It's fun, has some depth and since there's not many platformers on Wii, it's fresh to see a game like this. However, it does have retrictions. For example, there's little use of the remote pointer.

Q: Have you seen much of Lost Winds?
A: Not much yet, no. Apparently it looks very cool. However, they will get to see the game in action soon. Expect to see it at the Nintendo Media Summit or soon after.

Q: Is WiiWare getting better 3rd party releases than Wii?
A: WiiWare's offering small developers with the ability to create great, fun games that they normally would not have the budget for retail. WiiWare should deliver more value than anything else on the system. You're getting developers with passion and skill, who are willing to create games that are fun and push the system, as opposed to rushing products in order to make a quick buck.

Q: Porn games coming to Wii?
A: It's not impossible. There's Japanese porn games on DS.

Q: Wii Voice Chat be accessible from the main menu?
A: No. Don't expect it to be a standard - only a feature for some Wii games.

Q: What happened to Wii Motorsports?
A: Think that it's likely still in development.

Q: Thoughts on Guitar Hero DS?
A: Really cool concept. The peripheral looks pretty great and it should make a killing.

Q: Rumour of lack of friend codes in Mario Kart Wii?
A: There's nothing we don't know about it. European media are able to play the game online now and apparently it works well.

Q: When are we going to hear more about Factor 5?
A: Not sure about anything yet. We should hear more around E3.

Q: Will there be any more guest appearances on Voice Chat?
A: Hopefully. There's a lot of opportunities and it's something they will endevour to do in the future.

Q: When will storage problems be fixed?
A: Maybe something will be revealed around E3, at the earliest, but they're not certain. All they have to do is open up SD card functionality.

Q: What do you want for Pikmin 3?
A: An online mode, especially co-op, would be great. Wii remote functionality. And more complex puzzles.

Summary Finished
 

legend166

Member
Milabrega said:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/863/863499p1.html

Summary to be updated every ten minutes until complete. Also sorry for the Wii pun in the title.

Summary Incomplete:

Smackdown Vs Raw 2009 DS
-"Suprisingly awesome" Bozon. Hopes they add Traditional controls.

-Theres an overworld area with RPG features like arm strength etc.
-Motion controls to do moves. D-Pad to move
-"Looks like No Mercy on DS" Bozon. Looks good.
-Single Player only

"Surprinsgly awesome" + "hopes they add traditional controls" = does not compute.
 
legend166 said:
"Surprinsgly awesome" + "hopes they add traditional controls" = does not compute.


They actually addressed that. Bozon says that it looks awesome, but he hasn't actually gotten a real hands on.
 
Milabrega said:
Yep just got to this part. Big News? Should i slap it atop the OP?


Well, we don't know yet.
Could be big news, but it could also be embargoed until June...
Still, it's nice that Nintendo is doing something this month.
 

Jiggy

Member
Milabrega said:
Japanese WiiWare Launch:
-Dr. Mario Cool. Transfer the Demo for multiplayer. Still requires FC, real pain in the ass.
-Star Soldier R fun but shallow. A 5 min level and a 2 minute level for 8 bucks. No arcade mode.
-King's Story is cool I guess
-Lost Winds, First footage Friday.
-Defend your Castle is looking like it might be the geometry wars of WiiWare. Dev interview, trailer and new SS coming tomorrow. $5.
Huh, that's pretty high praise for Defend Your Castle. It wasn't on my radar for anything other than its cool, stylistic look, but for 500 points I'd probably end up getting it, in support of cheap gaming as well as downloadable gaming.

Sad to see no talk about the ping pong game that's been drawing some attention for its price.
 

Icarus

Member
I have high hopes for Okami... Matt better not be spinning me (though the other reviews from EGM and the like reinforce what he's saying).
 

legend166

Member
I doubt there will be anything that big. They've already said they're not going to announce the 2nd half of the lineup until E3.

Sounds like there will be some good footage coming out this week for some interesting games.

- Lost Winds
- Defend Your Castle
- De Blob
- Deadly Creatures.

Also, this is the first I've heard of this RTS. Hope it turns out good. Wii needs more of them.
 

pulga

Banned
Fuck yeah, can't wait until it's revealed.

Also, shouldn't KI talk be under NDA? They seem to be talking pretty openly about it, shouldn't this bother Nintendo's ninjas?
 
pulga said:
Fuck yeah, can't wait until it's revealed.

Also, shouldn't KI talk be under NDA? They seem to be talking pretty openly about it, shouldn't this bother Nintendo's ninjas?


It was, but because the story has already been blown by other sites, it's ok to talk about.
 
Thats it a new Kid Icarus is 100% confirmed (Yes I didnt beleive it before but now I do...lol)

Weather its in 2d or 3d I dont care. I just can not freaking wait!!!

media Summit is interesting, Let me think for a second...at the last one we got:

WiiWare - Dr. Mario, Pokemon Ranch, Soldier R, Bomberman, and others
Check Mii Out Date
Everyone's Ninty Channel revealation.
Sonic In Brawl

....

MEGATON CONFIRMED.

IF its like the last one :D
 

pulga

Banned
Since someone brought it up, would you guys be dissapointed if it was in 2D? I think I would, I want to see Pit make his long overdue jump to 3D. Plus, flying around in 3D should be fucking awesome.
 

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
Sonic Chronicles video soon??? :D :D :D

I don't expect much from Nintendo before E3, don't expect much from the Media Summit.
 
WiiRevolution1 said:
Thats it a new Kid Icarus is 100% confirmed (Yes I didnt beleive it before but now I do...lol)

Weather its in 2d or 3d I dont care. I just can not freaking wait!!!

media Summit is interesting, Let me think for a second...at the last one we got:

WiiWare - Dr. Mario, Pokemon Ranch, Soldier R, Bomberman, and others
Check Mii Out Date
Everyone's Ninty Channel revealation.
Sonic In Brawl

....

MEGATON CONFIRMED.

IF its like the last one :D

The event you're referring to was in Japan. This one is in the States; at the last pre-E3 NOA media event, in May of last year, absolutely nothing of interest was shown or announced.
 

legend166

Member
pulga said:
Since someone brought it up, would you guys be dissapointed if it was in 2D? I think I would, I want to see Pit make his long overdue jump to 3D. Plus, flying around in 3D should be fucking awesome.

bubububu you never flew in kid icarus 20 years ago! why would you want to change a game that is 20 years old? how dare you!
 

ivysaur12

Banned
No standout games for Japanese WiiWare?

My Life as a King?

EDIT: And they're really sure about Kid Icarus... we'll see.
 

pulga

Banned
Jiggy37 said:
I'd rather have it that way.

Collette fanboy. Your words are venom.

legend166 said:
bubububu you never flew in kid icarus 20 years ago! why would you want to change a game that is 20 years old? how dare you!

*has Metroid Prime flashbacks* :lol

Sakurai made it right, though. Pit flies like a badass in SSE.
 

Teknoman

Member
"Still requires FC, real pain in the ass"

Friend codes are worse than just normal friends lists...but damn they arent in any way a "real pain in the ass".
 

pulga

Banned
No Means Nomad said:
You serious guy?

E3 better bring out the guns if that's our AAA lineup for '08 (excluding Okami, but it's a port of a game most of GAF has played). Sure, they're looking like solid games, but not MGS4 or GTAIV material.
 

legend166

Member
Teknoman said:
"Still requires FC, real pain in the ass"

Friend codes are worse than just normal friends lists...but damn they arent in any way a "real pain in the ass".

I'm sorry, but they are.

I'd be fine with just using the system friend code only, but a friend code for every single game is a pain the ass.
 

Jirotrom

Member
imo Capcom f'd up by not allowing the capcom characters... would have been one more way to promote games like street fighter and bionic commando that will be arriving later this year.
 

Epiphyte

Member
pulga said:
E3 better bring out the guns if that's our AAA lineup for '08 (excluding Okami, but it's a port of a game most of GAF has played). Sure, they're looking like solid games, but not MGS4 or GTAIV material.
It's almost as though third parties were deliberately keeping their AAA games away from Wii....
 

witness

Member
Very good podcast and a lot of news thats getting me pumped about whats coming next on Wii. Kid Icarus on Wii? Thank you sir may I have another? :D
 

Nicktals

Banned
Jirotrom said:
imo Capcom f'd up by not allowing the capcom characters... would have been one more way to promote games like street fighter and bionic commando that will be arriving later this year.

Yeah, I'd agree. Also, let's not think that the Mario license was only awesome because of the characters. For some reasons aiming for the small green patch of a koopa's shell is a helluva lot cooler than just aiming for a patch of grass surrounded by bunkers.

The courses and imagination (which the mario license forces you to do if you hope to take advantage of it) of the Mario license are really what I'll miss the most about We Love Golf.
 
Lobster said:
Theres a full stop. So the other 2 games are maybe.

If thats what you were refrring too..
Boom Blox and Wii Love Gold are a pretty far cry from AAA material regardless of if they're good or not.

Okami isn't a contender for Game of the Year because it was IGN's winner back in 2006.

Besides, to even allude that a game about spiders fighting scorpions might be a triple A title is absurdly stupid.
 

Lobster

Banned
No Means Nomad said:
Boom Blox and Wii Love Gold are a pretty far cry from AAA material regardless of if they're good or not.

Okami isn't a contender for Game of the Year because it was IGN's winner back in 2006.

Besides, to even allude that a game about spiders fighting scorpions might be a triple A title is absurdly stupid.


Wii Love Golf is pretty much AAA material.

Decent Budget, High advertising (but still bombed! WTF!) and a good developer.
 
Lobster said:
Wii Love Golf is pretty much AAA material.

Decent Budget, High advertising (but still bombed! WTF!) and a good developer.
Well tell me when it has more than a "decent" budget and a great developer rather than a good one and I will get back to you on it being a AAA title.

It's not on the same level as stuff like Smash, Gears 2, and Metal Gear Solid 4. That's the AAA level.

Also: My typos are wittier than I am.
 
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