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[JordanN]

If you think that the media isn't going to take Biden to the cleaners over his performance as President then you have lost the plot.

As of January 20th he and his administration take Trump's place as the media favorite puching bag. More stimulus, legalization of marijuana, student loan debt, healthcare, etc etc. The Dems have the presidency and they have congress after 4 years of misery. You are crazy if you think the media (Left or Right) won't hang his ass out to dry the moment he does something they don't like or that will get them views.


Biden is not some messiah. He will get torn down or built up just like every other president. It just depends on his performance.

Look at this picture Nobody_Important.

Do you remember who all these people were? Do you remember how the media was gushing over how many first females or first Asians were shown at the Democratic Primaries?

Yet, when Joe Biden beat them all, why didn't the media slam the Democratic Party as being the new Nazi Party? Why didn't the media drum up angry articles at how "racist" Joe Biden was for defeating them and that White supremacy plagues the very core of the USA?

Spoiler alert: Even before the official November 3rd election, the media already picked their favourite. Biden is not going to be a punching bag. They had 2 years to do that, and yet they did treat him as the new American messiah, free from criticism.

 

[Poop!]

The same media that gushed over Obama for eight years and treated him like a Hollywood celebrity instead of the president? That media?

obama was criticized for wearing a tan suit, chewing gum, and for what mustard he liked.

 

[JordanN]

obama was criticized for wearing a tan suit, chewing gum, and for what mustard he liked.

Damn, how did Obama ever recover?

He must have taken his anger out by drone striking more Middle Eastern kids.

Now where was the Saturday Night Live skits depicting him as a killer? Oh right... none.

 

[Nobody_Important]

Look at this picture Nobody_Important.

Do you remember who all these people were? Do you remember how the media was gushing over how many first females or first Asians were shown at the Democratic Primaries?

Yet, when Joe Biden beat them all, why didn't the media slam the Democratic Party as being the new Nazi Party? Why didn't the media drum up angry articles at how "racist" Joe Biden was for defeating them and that White supremacy plagues the very core of the USA?

Spoiler alert: Even before the official November 3rd election, the media already picked their favourite. Biden is not going to be a punching bag. They had 2 years to do that, and yet they did treat him as the new American messiah, free from criticism.

When he fails to pass healthcare reform, more stimulus or some other deeply desired part of his agenda and he eats shit on social media or the mainstream news I'll tell you I told you so.

 

[Poop!]

Damn, how did Obama ever recover?

He must have taken his anger out by drone striking more Middle Eastern kids.

Now where was the Saturday Night Live skits depicting him as a killer? Oh right... none.

you know the bombing didn’t stop once Trump took office right?

 

[NeilH1982]

If you think that the media isn't going to take Biden to the cleaners over his performance as President then you have lost the plot.

As of January 20th he and his administration take Trump's place as the media favorite puching bag. More stimulus, legalization of marijuana, student loan debt, healthcare, etc etc. The Dems have the presidency and they have congress after 4 years of misery. You are crazy if you think the media (Left or Right) won't hang his ass out to dry the moment he does something they don't like or that will get them views.


Biden is not some messiah. He will get torn down or built up just like every other president. It just depends on his performance.

You mean like they covered the laptop story

 

[ManofOne]

I received a 'triggered' emoji for this view, again intimating that - I really feel the LOL and Triggered emojis should be removed from the politics forum too as they are inflammatory and do little to foster debate.

take a vow of silence on that one.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

The "conservative voices" she's talking about were banned because they called for violent protests, wanted to overthrow a new government by force or wanted people to be hanged , and that's the way it is from here on out. And always should have been, no matter to which political tribe someone belongs to.

Conservatives will still be able to pronounce their opinion regarding politics and people. Saying "Biden sucks", "Harris will be the downfall of the US" or "AOC will be Iran's puppy once she becomes president", and so on, all that is still possible, here and on Twitter and Facebook. What will get you in trouble - and rightfully so - is calling for violence.

It will be interesting, however, if the two big ones, Twitter and Facebook, will deal more strictly with the usual conspiracy theories and abusive language from here on out. Like, "Harris cannot become US president because her parents are immigrants" and so on.

EDIT

Apparently that clip's from a 2020 Netflix movie, my bad. STILL THOUGH!

 

[JordanN]

you know the bombing didn’t stop once Trump took office right?

The media said he was going to start WW3 when he was in office.
Instead, he became the first President to actually negotiate peace with North Korea, and he didn't actually invade or overthrow any countries.

Meanwhile, Obama massacred Libya and got a shiny Nobel peace prize for it.

 

[Poop!]

The media said he was going to start WW3 when he was in office.
Instead, he became the first President to actually negotiate peace with North Korea, and he didn't actually invade or overthrow any countries.

Meanwhile, Obama massacred Libya and got a shiny Nobel peace prize for it.

did the bombing stop once Trump took office? Yes or no?

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

The "conservative voices" she's talking about were banned because they called for violent protests, wanted to overthrow a new government by force or wanted people to be hanged , and that's the way it is from here on out. And always should have been, no matter to which political tribe someone belongs to.

It's a joke from a Netflix movie

 

[AfricanKing]

The media said he was going to start WW3 when he was in office.
Instead, he became the first President to actually negotiate peace with North Korea, and he didn't actually invade or overthrow any countries.

Meanwhile, Obama massacred Libya and got a shiny Nobel peace prize for it.

... Hows that peace going

Kim Jong-un calls US 'biggest enemy' and says nuclear submarine plans 'complete'

North Korea should ‘further advance nuclear technology’ and develop more flexible attack capability, leader tells party congress

www.theguardian.com

 

[Riven326]

What you are describing now just the usual media bias. The Right win media endlessly blasted Obama. Remember the tan suit? Remember the feet on the desk? That same right wing media made excuses and ran cover for Trump for 4 years.


There is Right and Left wing media bias and there has been for over 20 years now. But the Right still criticized Trump at times and the Left criticized Obama. Biden is not going to have a magical cloak of invincibility all of a sudden just because he is the guy who finally kicked Trump out of the White House. I'm sure there will be a honeymoon period, but I'll eat my phone with BBQ sauce if the media is not criticizing him over some decision or event come the summer.

Well now I actually hope it doesn't happen.

 

[infinitys_7th]

... Hows that peace going

Kim Jong-un calls US 'biggest enemy' and says nuclear submarine plans 'complete'

North Korea should ‘further advance nuclear technology’ and develop more flexible attack capability, leader tells party congress

www.theguardian.com

Bluster. Meanwhile, we had unprecedented communication between NK and SK.

 

[JordanN]

did the bombing stop once Trump took office? Yes or no?

In a second term, it probably would have.

He had to slowly evict from his cabinet all the previous warmonger Neocons before he could finally achieve his agenda.

Edit: And when Trump did try to stop the bombings, the media still gave him shit for it. So it was a no win situation.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

It's a joke from a Netflix movie

damn, I knew she looked familiar...

 

[Flame_alchemist]

The fact that ppl can't tell what a conspiracy theory is should tell you how fucked up the last few year have been.

 

[ManofOne]

The fact that ppl can't tell what a conspiracy theory is should tell you how fucked up the last few year have been.

thank MSM for that.

 

[JordanN]

... Hows that peace going

Kim Jong-un calls US 'biggest enemy' and says nuclear submarine plans 'complete'

North Korea should ‘further advance nuclear technology’ and develop more flexible attack capability, leader tells party congress

www.theguardian.com

Trump is clearly on his way out, I really doubt Kim Jong Un wanted to make peace with his successor.

And since Biden served under Obama who clearly advocated for regime change, it only justifies his paranoia even more.

 

[tfur]

How is that not Lisa Kudrow?

 

[Shouta]

How is that not Lisa Kudrow?

It's her twin, Ursula

 

[Stiflers Mom]

Look at this picture Nobody_Important.

Do you remember who all these people were? Do you remember how the media was gushing over how many first females or first Asians were shown at the Democratic Primaries?

Yet, when Joe Biden beat them all, why didn't the media slam the Democratic Party as being the new Nazi Party? Why didn't the media drum up angry articles at how "racist" Joe Biden was for defeating them and that White supremacy plagues the very core of the USA?

Spoiler alert: Even before the official November 3rd election, the media already picked their favourite. Biden is not going to be a punching bag. They had 2 years to do that, and yet they did treat him as the new American messiah, free from criticism.

Well, he has yet to send a bunch of mobsters to chase away the government and put the whole country at risk.
So at the moment he has the benefit of doubt for me over that vain old sack of shit that wanted to stage a coup.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

The "conservative voices" she's talking about were banned because they called for violent protests, wanted to overthrow a new government by force or wanted people to be hanged , and that's the way it is from here on out. And always should have been, no matter to which political tribe someone belongs to.

Conservatives will still be able to pronounce their opinion regarding politics and people. Saying "Biden sucks", "Harris will be the downfall of the US" or "AOC will be Iran's puppy once she becomes president", and so on, all that is still possible, here and on Twitter and Facebook. What will get you in trouble - and rightfully so - is calling for violence.

It will be interesting, however, if the two big ones, Twitter and Facebook, will deal more strictly with the usual conspiracy theories and abusive language from here on out. Like, "Harris cannot become US president because her parents are immigrants" and so on.

That's a joke video...

 

[pel1300]

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[Bitmap Frogs]

thank MSM for that.

saying msm this msm that does make you look like a card carrying member of the conspiranoia army

 

[ManofOne]

saying msm this msm that does make you look like a card carrying member of the conspiranoia army

You don't think MSM fed that paranoia by being hyperbolic in their communication through whatever means.

I'm still waiting for my colored bum to be locked up in a nazi death camp.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

You don't think MSM fed that paranoia by being hyperbolic in their communication through whatever means.

I'm still waiting for my colored bum to be locked up in a nazi death camp.

neither are conservatives in a nazi death camps

msm this, msm that is conspiranoia 101

 

[CrankyJay™]

You don't think MSM fed that paranoia by being hyperbolic in their communication through whatever means.

I'm still waiting for my colored bum to be locked up in a nazi death camp.

Yeah the MSM embellished or did gotcha-style headlines. For example, when Trump was pushing HydroxyQ there were a few headlines like “Trump has a financial stake in pushing HydroxyQ”, but when you actually read the nuts and bolts of the details, he was invested in a fund comprised of a shitload of equities, including Sanofi, who makes the drug. It was like .02% of the fund’s portfolio which amounted to about $5000 for him, lol.

People on Reeeeeee and on my FB friends list were like “I fucking knew it” without ever bothering to read the details.

Trump managed to bring out this bullshit for the last four years. I’m sure Fox News was probably guilty of this same shit against Obama and will be against Biden. Most people won’t bother reading the fine details or searching for more sources so the damage will always be done.

 

[Flame_alchemist]

You don't think MSM fed that paranoia by being hyperbolic in their communication through whatever means.

I'm still waiting for my colored bum to be locked up in a nazi death camp.

Please tell how msm not running a story of a pedophile cabal in the basement pizzeria is the msm fault?

Or

Why Republican baby boomers are more likely to share #fakenews on Facebook

Social media doesn’t help people differentiate what is real from what is fake.

www.marketwatch.com

 

[Redneckerz]

The fact that ppl can't tell what a conspiracy theory is should tell you how fucked up the last few year have been.

Saying that, that's a conspiracy theory right. You can easily tell, you just don't want to say it.

 

[Poop!]

In a second term, it probably would have.

He had to slowly evict from his cabinet all the previous warmonger Neocons before he could finally achieve his agenda.

Edit: And when Trump did try to stop the bombings, the media still gave him shit for it. So it was a no win situation.

hes the commander in chief of all the armed forces. He could have stopped the bombing at any time. So he’s no better than Obama.

 

[Flame_alchemist]

hes the commander in chief of all the armed forces. He could have stopped the bombing at any time. So he’s no better than Obama.

Oh no he totally stopped doing drone strike...

Trump revokes Obama rule on reporting drone strike deaths

The US will not have to publish how many civilians are killed in drone strikes outside of war zones.

www.bbc.com

 

[Afro Republican]

So my take will be different from everyone else, this is clearly a something I don't agree with and it's clear this is a reactive move that was reactionary (that's a redundant sentence), but I think that most threads that would qualify for what Evilore would consider the source of the issues he wants to avoid, only really started becoming a problem from November onward.

Imo, all we are really being asked to do is just post the same threads we were posting before November, or the more elaborate analytical threads that were done during those two months that foster discussion. For me, I don't see anything here that's preventing me from posting the same threads I was already posting. If there's another impeachment coming up for trump and I'm around I'll probably try to make an overly stylized impeachment thread so we can all yell at each other over whether Mitch or Pelosi is the worst Congressman (Pelosi). As long as we are discussing the news and events themselves I don't think we will really see much of a difference.

This seems to be for the more aggressive users, the type of guys you saw pasting information from fan threads on reddit, or the flat earth guys on the Off-topic forum. Otherwise, while I disagree with the move itself, I don't really see anything........................

.......changing?

 

[GAMETA]

The fact that ppl can't tell what a conspiracy theory is should tell you how fucked up the last few year have been.

Are UFOs a conspiracy?

Is Bill Clinton being in Epstein's island a conspiracy?

Is Epstein death a conspiracy?

Is supernatural phenomena discussion a conspiracy?

Is Russia intervening in the US elections a conspiracy?

Is inter-dimensional discussion a conspiracy?

Human trafficking, is that a conspiracy?

Is China buying American companies a conspiracy?

Is George Soros, his past, his interviews and his own claims a conspiracy?

Is religion a conspiracy?

WW2 programs, high tech undisclosed, pedophilia within institutions, the Rothschild, the media being owned, etc, are those all conspiracies as well?


Because here's the thing, man, how do you draw the line when things that were considered conspiracies turn out to be true? If a single claim that was ridiculed by authorities/media/government/companies turns out to be true, then there's precedent that anything can be lied about. And many things were true.

So how do you draw the line between what's allowed or not? And more, if the only way to disprove is to inform, how do you inform if you can't talk about it?

 

[JordanN]

hes the commander in chief of all the armed forces. He could have stopped the bombing at any time. So he’s no better than Obama.

No, I don't think that would have been possible.

Just remember, he already ran on an America first platform. Yet there was still huge amount of internal resistance when he demanded U.S companies to leave China despite the fact China has been killing Americans with opioids and now the Coronavirus. Or how about when he wanted to build the wall but then the media started crying "NO YOU CAN'T BUILD THAT! Mexico has a right to America too!"

If Trump ordered the U.S military to serve America and leave the Middle East, he would have pissed off every military industrial complex that I guarantee he would be made to "disappear" the next day.
The only way to stop the bombings was to remove the Neocons and Neoliberals like John Bolton.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

So how do you draw the line between what's allowed or not? And more, if the only way to disprove is to inform, how do you inform if you can't talk about it?

2 criteria spring to mind: Is there a source and is it reputable?

 

[Afro Republican]

Especially right after WW2 when the U.S did help rebuild these countries. What Japan does today isn't that different to how the U.S and many Western countries were like in the 1950s (and spoiler alert, now you can see why Conservatism is being erased. The Asian countries show the power of having tightknit families and a sense of community).

What power? having their critical thinking dismantled and run by corrupt socialist elites?

 

[Slings and Arrows]

2 criteria spring to mind: Is there a source and is it reputable?

memba when people said you were a Conspiracy theorist for believing

kinext was watching you
your phones battery life was cut short on purpose
your private data was being accessed and tracked

I memba.

Gameta has a point, but I think avoid anything with politics in it ans you should be alright.

I hope r/Conspiracy goes back to being about ancient aliens and wierd, kooky shit like that. When the board was invaded by politics it ruined it

 

[JordanN]

What power? having their critical thinking dismantled and run by corrupt socialist elites?

Japanese people get to live in peace, in a society that is flushed with cash and is constantly pumping out the latest technology.

I actually find it bizarre why people look down on the country despite the fact Japan is probably more influential than 70% of the world.

 

[Flame_alchemist]

memba when people said you were a Conspiracy theorist for believing

kinext was watching you
your phones battery life was cut short on purpose
your private data was being accessed and tracked

I memba.

Gameta has a point, but I think avoid anything with politics in it ans you should be alright.

I hope r/Conspiracy goes back to being about ancient aliens and wierd, kooky shit like that. When the board was invaded by politics it ruined it

And how harmful were does conspiracy?

 

[EviLore]

Are UFOs a conspiracy?

Is Bill Clinton being in Epstein's island a conspiracy?

Is Epstein death a conspiracy?

Is supernatural phenomena discussion a conspiracy?

Is Russia intervening in the US elections a conspiracy?

Is inter-dimensional discussion a conspiracy?

Human trafficking, is that a conspiracy?

Is China buying American companies a conspiracy?

Is George Soros, his past, his interviews and his own claims a conspiracy?

Is religion a conspiracy?

WW2 programs, high tech undisclosed, pedophilia within institutions, the Rothschild, the media being owned, etc, are those all conspiracies as well?


Because here's the thing, man, how do you draw the line when things that were considered conspiracies turn out to be true? If a single claim that was ridiculed by authorities/media/government/companies turns out to be true, then there's precedent that anything can be lied about. And many things were true.

So how do you draw the line between what's allowed or not? And more, if the only way to disprove is to inform, how do you inform if you can't talk about it?

"UFOs" are just dumb since the advent of smartphones put high-quality cameras in everyone's pockets.
Bill Clinton went to Epstein's island several times. They were friends.
Epstein's death is a legitimate conspiracy.
Supernatural phenomena aren't real.
There is evidence that Russia influences US elections, like all major powers do. The significance of the influence is disputed.
Interdimensional discussion is fantasy.
Human trafficking is obviously real and prevalent all over the world.
Chinese money is influential in US corporations.
Blaming all the ills of the world on George Soros is a dumb conspiracy theory overlapping with Ze Jewzzzzz.
Religion is religion.

 

[Poop!]

No, I don't think that would have been possible.

Just remember, he already ran on an America first platform. Yet there was still huge amount of internal resistance when he demanded U.S companies to leave China despite the fact China has been killing Americans with opioids and now the Coronavirus. Or how about when he wanted to build the wall but then the media started crying "NO YOU CAN'T BUILD THAT! Mexico has a right to America too!"

If Trump ordered the U.S military to serve America and leave the Middle East, he would have pissed off every military industrial complex that I guarantee he would be made to "disappear" the next day.
The only way to stop the bombings was to remove the Neocons and Neoliberals like John Bolton.

Like how Obama tried to withdraw Trumps from Afghanistan and republicans wouldn’t let him?

 

[e&e]

There is no explicit link between what happened at the Capitol and any thread that was created on this forum and it is inflammatory to suggest there is, unless you can point me to a thread that involved planning/discussing what happened.

The assault on the Capitol was the most monumentally stupid and self-destructive act done by a tiny minority of Trump supporters who under Trump’s time in office.

I would suggest the majority of Trump supporters would agree.

What I meant to say is this forum was partaking in the same down the rabbit whole election conspiracies as other super right wing places, not that it was part of it.

 

[JordanN]

Like how Obama tried to withdraw Trumps from Afghanistan and republicans wouldn’t let him?

Sure I guess.
I did say Neocons and Neolibs. Both parties belong to the same interest that demand unlimited wars and create refugee crisis that screw over everybody.

At least with Trump, he openly spoke about draining the swamp and got people thinking how it's not just the President who can stop this. It requires every American to think for themselves and to start reading between the lines.
Who really controls things?

 

[e&e]

Look at this picture Nobody_Important.

Do you remember who all these people were? Do you remember how the media was gushing over how many first females or first Asians were shown at the Democratic Primaries?

Yet, when Joe Biden beat them all, why didn't the media slam the Democratic Party as being the new Nazi Party? Why didn't the media drum up angry articles at how "racist" Joe Biden was for defeating them and that White supremacy plagues the very core of the USA?

Spoiler alert: Even before the official November 3rd election, the media already picked their favourite. Biden is not going to be a punching bag. They had 2 years to do that, and yet they did treat him as the new American messiah, free from criticism.

The left wing media liked a Democrat?

Does anyone actually have a list of which media officially endorsed Joe Biden?

 

[Punished Miku]

What I meant to say is this forum was partaking in the same down the rabbit whole election conspiracies as other super right wing places, not that it was part of it.

I guess now the equivalent is allowing threads on here justifying ANTIFA actions explicitly. That's never been allowed on this forum, and shouldn't be. Been almost unanimous criticism of their actions on here.

 

[ManofOne]

neither are conservatives in a nazi death camps

msm this, msm that is conspiranoia 101

MSM, is just an abbreviation in my book. No conspiracy there. Its just that MSM lost objectivity and given rise to alternate forms of media and political discourse.

 

[Afro Republican]

Alex Jones thinks Q is utter bullshit.............well, didn't expect that

He believed that from the start years ago. It started out as social media bots by the dems anyway. that was later hijacked by some guy who apparently knows all and can see all and said that it's all part of the plan. He got two or three obvious things right and then a bunch of people though he was a fortune teller that had access to security clearance, then from there Q became some big thing, but only on 4chan tier places of the internet. Most of the time I heard of Q activity it was from the media, since I don't go to those places, so I never really paid attention to them.

But it should be suspicious that the biggest advertiser of Q outside conspiracy sites was the leftwing media. Fox even barely touched Q,

 

[ManofOne]

Yeah the MSM embellished or did gotcha-style headlines. For example, when Trump was pushing HydroxyQ there were a few headlines like “Trump has a financial stake in pushing HydroxyQ”, but when you actually read the nuts and bolts of the details, he was invested in a fund comprised of a shitload of equities, including Sanofi, who makes the drug. It was like .02% of the fund’s portfolio which amounted to about $5000 for him, lol.

People on Reeeeeee and on my FB friends list were like “I fucking knew it” without ever bothering to read the details.

Trump managed to bring out this bullshit for the last four years. I’m sure Fox News was probably guilty of this same shit against Obama and will be against Biden. Most people won’t bother reading the fine details or searching for more sources so the damage will always be done.

I think you're reading too much into what I'm saying but I will say do you agree that MSM is the same MSM it once was 4 years ago. Are pieces politically objective?

 

[INCUBASE]

He believed that from the start years ago. It started out as social media bots by the dems anyway. that was later hijacked by some guy who apparently knows all and can see all and said that it's all part of the plan. He got two or three obvious things right and then a bunch of people though he was a fortune teller that had access to security clearance, then from there Q became some big thing, but only on 4chan tier places of the internet. Most of the time I heard of Q activity it was from the media, since I don't go to those places, so I never really paid attention to them.

But it should be suspicious that the biggest advertiser of Q outside conspiracy sites was the leftwing media. Fox even barely touched Q,

So it was the left, feeding the media stories about left wing pedo rings, started by reptilian multidimensional space men

So a double bluff to make trump look stupid, a back it

Well that sounds stupid too tbh