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No Drivers For Xbox One Controller? [up: Penello brings everyone kittens]
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Pharaoh 117
Member
Zeyphersan
Banned
All Sony has to do is make real DS4 drivers and a dongle and they could take the PC controller space too
Captain Tuttle
Member
I don't believe it
I bought the stupid play and charge one since Amazon gave me a $30 bonus toward it for my (canceled) Xbox One preorder. Now I'm trying to decide if I should sell it at cost/loss, or maybe pick up one of those CronusMax things I was looking at anyway.
Controller is bluetooth and supports USB play, really no need for a dongle.
Felix Lighter
Member
No dongle needed. It's standard Bluetooth.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Mutanthands
Member
We don't even know if this is true yet.
If they are going to sell the controller, there will have to be drivers. Sounds like it will be the same thing as what happened later last generation; you have to buy a controller to get the dongle.
ChimpanzeeThat
Member
The Xbox 360 controller is fine as it is, most developers are using it as the go-to controller for PC anyway when it comes to controller settings.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Wouldn't old games have to patch in PS style button prompts if you wanted them? Or is that somehow handled driver side?
Would it honestly surprise you if it were true?
That is handled on a game-by-game basis.
Its really past time developers start including a menu option and texture assets for different controller types. With people commonly using the 360, DS4, and, coming soon, Steam Controller.
Zeyphersan
Banned
If Sony makes official drivers, I think you'd see more devs add an option to change the button prompts. But for older games, yeah, you'd see X360 prompts. Doesn't bother some people, would probably bug me.
I'm just saying from a business stand-point, Sony has a lot to gain here. Assuming the cost of developing the drivers, and there's no business/legal reason Sony can't make an XInput controller.
Actually, technical question: an Xbox 360 controller acts as both a DirectInput and XInput device, right?
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
It is a problem though if the game tells you to press X and that actually means Square.
I mean it's not like it wouldn't work but it's really, really non-optimal. At least with an XBO pad if the button prompts weren't updated the buttons would still be called the same thing.
It just sucks that the dpad is such shit.
Mutanthands
Member
I'll reserve judgment until we get something other than hearsay. I'm done jumping on Hype Trains and Hate Trains based on bullshit.
Barrel Cannon
Member
Thats really lame and stupid if true. Even if its a lie Microsoft is being really slow on the ball in terms of reacting to literally everything sony does. If they want peripheral support they should be aiming to get those controllers sold to everyone.
RealDeadOne
Member
How does MS benefit from this? I assume they make SOME kind of money from licensing Xinput right, or is it free?
I mean tthey'd only stand to make money from selling dongles and reinforce the Xbox brand outside of their own console. I mean Microsoft is definitely not associated entirely positively with PC gaming but they've certainly had a much stronger presence than Sony, it seems like a no brainer to keep that going.
I mean tthey'd only stand to make money from selling dongles and reinforce the Xbox brand outside of their own console. I mean Microsoft is definitely not associated entirely positively with PC gaming but they've certainly had a much stronger presence than Sony, it seems like a no brainer to keep that going.
Yea, I don't buy it.
If anything, this is just saying they will do something similar to what they did last gen.
Drivers will be released for the wired mode (like they said they would) and a dongle might be made available for purchase that lets you use the controller wirelessly.
Hopefully it comes sooner rather than later.
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After looking more at the article the whole thing seems a bit more suspect.
"When I asked if the Windows version would be Bluetooth the contact said that it was not a part of the plan and he highly doubted it. I am currently reaching out to Microsoft PR for a statement."
X1 controller isn't Bluetooth. At least the guy asking the questions has no idea what he is talking about.
If anything, this is just saying they will do something similar to what they did last gen.
Drivers will be released for the wired mode (like they said they would) and a dongle might be made available for purchase that lets you use the controller wirelessly.
Hopefully it comes sooner rather than later.
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After looking more at the article the whole thing seems a bit more suspect.
"When I asked if the Windows version would be Bluetooth the contact said that it was not a part of the plan and he highly doubted it. I am currently reaching out to Microsoft PR for a statement."
X1 controller isn't Bluetooth. At least the guy asking the questions has no idea what he is talking about.
cripterion
Member
That would be incredibly dumb & greedy. They would hit an all time low if they pulled something like that.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
Man, microsoft has been really stupid this gen. I mean real stupid
ShinobiFist
Banned
So in 30 minutes or so, he might release the drivers....Hmmmmm...
CarbonRevenge
Banned
I dont remember the last time i had to look at my controllers to see which button is what while playing games... i also dont get confused when switching consoles or controllers so often... dunno about anyone else but i can go straight from the DS4 to my 360 controller and know where X is on both without having to look.
I get that its not optimal for older games... but the general idea is that more devs can be taking advantage of this and start implementing △ ｏ ｘ □ prompts or prompt overlays
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
MS could have made the One complement the PC the way the Vita complements the PS4 but their benign neglect of the platform is now starting to resemble mild hostility.
I don't think we need to guess as to why former Valve veteran Jason Holtman only lasted six months. I'm sure he had many nefarious, malicious ideas such as "Stop fighting a losing battle against Steam with Windows Store exclusivity" and "Port over Xbox exclusives".
Because some game site dude called his friend at Microsoft, who told him. That's proof enough for the internet.
charlequin
Banned
I can't say that there's really an Xbone-shaped hole in my PC controller collection, but I do still hope Microsoft can do the right thing and support their products fully.
Maybe I am in the minority since it never really bothered me or even threw me off. I guess it helps that with the exception of the sticks the 360/Ps3 controllers are laid out the same way. So even if the button actually has a Square on it it is in the same place as the X button and serves the same purpose in games.
If the controllers were completely different then I could see the problem.
Yes, they are not 1:1 in design.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
How much do you want them to support their products fully? Do you want the XB1 controller to be fully compatible with every single game that the 360 pad supported or would you be ok with a initial release with a list of games it supports?
Remember that you have to plug in the XB1 controller to get a firmware update.
The QA on this has to be mind boggling. This takes time. Unless of course you're ok with them saying, "Good enough, It'll probably work everywhere else."
Within hours when they release the update to allow XB1 PC support I can almost guarantee that there will be a thread here saying "This controller doesn't work with this particular game. MS are idiots."