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No go for PSP Go.

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Leading Dutch retailer Nedgame has announced that it won’t be selling PSPgo when the new handheld launches on October 1.

While the company will continue to support existing PSP models, it says that the drawbacks of the UMD-free PSPgo include its €249 price point, as well as its inability to support physical media and hence game trade-ins and second hand sales.

The front page of Nedgame’s website features a detailed explanation of the company’s decision not to stock PSPgo. According to a Google translation, it reads: “We hope you understand our decision. Most gamers still want a box and booklet in their game, or at least the choice between a physical product or a download. The PSP GO! Sony cut the consumer choice and thus creates a monopoly on the PSP GO! game sales. We see this as a very bad development for both the consumer and the retailer.”

Eurogamer is also reporting that other Dutch retailers have opted to shun the PSPgo and that some Spanish retailers may follow suit.

While the PSPgo is expected to be sold at all major game retail outlets across the UK, independent chains like Chips and Grainger Games have expressed concerns about the viability of stocking the new handheld.

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/leading-dutch-retailer-not-selling-pspgo

Here is Nedgame's website. Can anyone translate?
 

cw_sasuke

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Wont be the last retailer i think.
 

Kintaro

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I am so surprised.

Drop the price Sony!

I doubt the price is the true reason it won't be carried in this instance.
 

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While the company will continue to support existing PSP models, it says that the drawbacks of the UMD-free PSPgo include its €249 price point,

I know it's handheld and all but PS3 at £244.69 , make that stupid price for PSP Go look even more stupid than ever.
 

Kinitari

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DMeisterJ said:
I am so surprised.

Drop the price Sony!

The price doesn't matter too much, it's not like the retailer makes any real money on any other consoles - but now, how are they supposed to cash in on game sales?
 

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- De Price is higher then the normal consumer price, 249 euro in stead of 169 euro's.
- You can only download games through Sony, which means that the prices are higher and there less assortment (of games?).
- There is not posibility to trade or sell games.
- You can never get a game from the cheap-o-bin.
- There is no possibility to play imported games.
- When you sell the new psp the games will be worthless.
- Nedgame wants real games in cases, not a download.

Bunch of bitches if ya ask me.
 

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Vilix said:
Here is Nedgame's website. Can anyone translate?

Disadvantages for consumers:
- Higher price (€249 instead of €169)
- Download only games through Sony -> higher price, less choice
- No cheap games from the bargain bin
- No possibility to play importgames
- If you sell it, your virtual games will be worthless

*edit: beaten by a millisecond
 

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While the company will continue to support existing PSP models, it says that the drawbacks of the UMD-free PSPgo include its €249 price point, as well as its inability to support physical media and hence game trade-ins and second hand sales.


These companies are worthless. They aren't going to sell a system because if they sold it people wouldn't buy their overpriced used games which = zero proceeds that go to developers.
 

sullyj

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Kinitari said:
The price doesn't matter too much, it's not like the retailer makes any real money on any other consoles - but now, how are they supposed to cash in on used game sales?

Fixed
 

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I can't see why any shop would stock it. It's a one time small profit with no added revenue stream for the seller.
In fact. Game shops that do sell this product are really shooting themselves in the foot and accelerating the demise of the dedicated video game retailer.
 

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The price really is too high for what it is. I was planning on replacing my fat boy with a GO until I heard the price. It's just ridiculous in comparison to other electronics, I mean a ps3 for 50 bucks more. Come on.

Price justification is an important thing in this economic climate. I can justify a 169.99 for a psp-3000 much better. Sure it would have been cool to have the latest greatest but not for nearly a 100 bucks more.
 

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TheOddOne said:
- De Price is higher the the normal consumer price, 249 euro in stead of 169 euro's.
- You can only download games through Sony, which means that the prices are higher and there less assortment (of games?).
- There is not posibility to trade or sell games.
- You can never get a game from the cheap-o-bin.
- There is no possibility to play imported games.
- When you sell the new psp the games will be worthless.
- Nedgame wants real games in cases, not a download.

Bunch of bitches if ya ask me.

The only thing they care is the possible loss of second hand sales. DDL is the future, it's the iPod situation all over again. Most retailer will adapt.
 

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TheOddOne said:
- De Price is higher the the normal consumer price, 249 euro in stead of 169 euro's.

If you preorder the system @ amazon here you get a 20 Euro PSN Card and GT Mobile for free. So it isnt 249 Euros after all.


TheOddOne said:
- You can only download games through Sony, which means that the prices are higher and there less assortment (of games?).

The prices are not going to be higher, they are going to be lower. And the assortment should be the same.


TheOddOne said:
- There is not posibility to trade or sell games.
- You can never get a game from the cheap-o-bin..

true

TheOddOne said:
- There is no possibility to play imported games.

wrong you can download them from other psn stores, like the japanese.


TheOddOne said:
- When you sell the new psp the games will be worthless.

You can redownload them @ your psp fat or whatever.
 

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It begins....(sorry always wanted to say that).

But on a serious note; Europe will be proberly be the most hostile to the PSP GO as the price is pretty ridiculous and the online infrastructure is much more fractured here (I'm in the UK and a massive looming problem is the crazy download caps that companies are starting to embrace).
Plus I'm gonna have to say that me and a lot of my friends aren't gonna give up on trading games (as even though we love and try to support developers by buying games new, we still sometimes trade an old game towards this). So the idea of the PSP Go not having this is a huge repellent when combined with the overinflated price.
 

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quick translation:

Nedgame wil not sell the psp go. We will however support the psp 3000 completly. the utmost disadvantages for costumer and retailer are:

- Much higher suggested retail price 249 euro's instead of 169 euro's

- You can only download games via sony, this will result in higher fixed prices and less choice

- No possibilty's to trade or sell your games

- Never again buy cheap discount games

- No possibilty to play import games

- By resail of your PSP go your virtaul bought games will be allmost worthless

We hope you understand our choice. Most gamers still want a book and case with there bought games, or at least the possibillty between a fysical product and a download. With the psp go Sony denies that freedom of choice and creates a monopoly position in the PSP GO gamesale. We find this a very bad development for the costumer and the retailer.

Edit: I was a bit slow with the translation i see :)
 

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The only places that should be selling these are the large markets where game sales are more of a service.

Anyone else whom sell the Go am moron total
 
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Vilix

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evilromero said:
I assume they don't carry iPods either.

You see, I thought of this too. The only other revenue streams that a retailer gets from an iPod sale is if that person buys some peripherials. I honestly don't have a problem with the Go except for the price.
 

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I was under the impression that the price point of the GO was high for the sole reason of giving the retailers some profit on the hardware? I'm certain it doesn't cost more money for Sony to make a GO vs a 3000, and if the GO were cheaper, it would cannibalize 3000 sales, and cut into retailer profits (meaning even more retailers would drop it).

...or is this wrong?
 

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Isn't retail going to have lots of 'vouchers in the box' releases to sell through to Go owners?

I'm sure plenty will buy their go games like that. And given how crappy PSP software sales were anyway, I think the net result will be a lift in software sales (through voucher sales) for retail as a result of Go.

Anyway, this will be interesting to watch. Probably the first big face-off between a games company and retail over a dd-orientated system. I don't think it necessarily has to be a bloodbath though. I mean, lots of folks (i.e. everyone who hasn't got a credit card, which includes a big portion of the market - kids) are going to keep buying their games in stores, be it on a disc or via a download voucher.
 

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Vilix said:
You see, I thought of this too. The only other revenue streams that a retailer gets from an iPod sale is if that person buys some peripherials. I honestly don't have a problem with the Go except for the price.

It doesn't make sense especially since there still will be PSP GO accessories to sell, and accessories is what makes more profit than any system or game sale for a retailer. Also stores are all still going to sell the cheaper PSP 3000 and UMD, it's not like PSP GO kills all of this.

This is just retailers getting pissed at complete DDL devices.

Ipods still can rip a CD and other media, though generally Itunes is cheaper than most CD's retailers sell.....
 

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PSP Go does include a free copy of GT PSP, I see no reason to complain.
Which isn't as good as expected.

I really anticipate the launch of the PSP Go, because PSP 3000s price will drop then :D
 

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gofreak said:
Isn't retail going to have lots of 'vouchers in the box' releases to sell through to Go owners?

I'm sure plenty will buy their go games like that. And given how crappy PSP software sales were anyway, I think the net result will be a lift in software sales (through voucher sales) for retail as a result of Go.

Anyway, this will be interesting to watch. Probably the first big face-off between a games company and retail over a dd-orientated system. I don't think it necessarily has to be a bloodbath though. I mean, lots of folks (i.e. everyone who hasn't got a credit card, which includes a big portion of the market - kids) are going to keep buying their games in stores, be it on a disc or via a download voucher.

Doesn't help with the shops additional revenue stream via second games. Which is their big concern and rightly so.
 

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gofreak said:
Isn't retail going to have lots of 'vouchers in the box' releases to sell through to Go owners?

I'm sure plenty will buy their go games like that.

Anyway, this will be interesting to watch. Probably the first big face-off between a games company and retail over a dd-orientated system.

Used games sales is the major factor here. I'm willing to bet any other complaint lodged here is just icing on the giant cake of used games.

This is also the reason why PSP 3000s bundles continue to be announced as well.

The incoming war over DD will boil down to nothing but used games sales.
 

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Most gamers still want a box and booklet in their game, or at least the choice between a physical product or a download.

I'd like to have the choice between a PSPGo and a PSP slim as well. I don't need retailers to decide what's best for me (lol at people thinking retailers are altruistic).
 

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There's almost certainly no go for PSPgo in Germany as well.

A lot of smaller game retailers won't sell the handheld. Metro (Media Markt, Saturn) is also recommending their branches to ignore the PSPgo.
 

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Stupid eurogamer.

Biggest Dutch retailer boycotts PSPgo News PSP News by Robert Purchese Today 10:08
Holland's largest specialised retail outlet, Nedgame, has decided not to sell the PSPgo this October. And, the shop explained to Eurogamer Holland, there are a handful of reasons why.

The hefty price-tag of €249.99 being one of them. That's €80 more than the PSP-3000 costs, a difference Nedgame believes the new handheld does not justify - the smaller screen is picked out as an example.

A more telling reason is the lack of a UMD drive. That means Nedgame cannot sell games for the PSPgo, which is where retailers make the most profit. And, as downloadable games will be tied to PSN accounts, trading and swapping will fast become a thing of the past.

Nedgame also mentioned its discomfort at Sony creating a monopoly on the software sold on PSPgo.

Eurogamer Holland goes on to point out that Nedgame are not the only Dutch outlet to boycott Sony's new handheld.
:lol :lol :lol
 

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I don't know, those PSN card are gonna sell like hotcakes methinks. Sure there's the whole resell thing, but I don't think you're doing yourself any favors not selling it.
 

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They act like they are some kind of charity or something. 249 is too expensive for the consumers!! :lol I think consumers can decide for themselves. Whether they get ripped off or not for that price, it's still their decision to buy one.

So they didn't stock the PS3 either when it was launched for 599 euros?

I do think 249 is too much for a PSPGo, but there are people who specifically wants a PSPGo (and not a 3000) they are WILLING to pay 249. Because these retailers aren't going to stock it, they will lose out on the revenues.
 

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I hope they keep fighting this. I always pick up my handheld systems late in the system cycle, and I manage to get a big mix of old, and new games. If sony gets their way then it'll just make Nintendo want to go down the same route. I wouldn't want to rebuild a library of hundreds of new handheld games when I can pick up select titles at a used price.
 

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The PSP Go should cost LESS than the normal PSP, not more. As has already been stated, it has far too many drawbacks.

The PSP Go will crash and burn, but I'm expecting quite a lot of unknowing parents to buy one for their kids, not realising exactly what it is. I'm sure there will be more than a few sad Christmas days for some kids who get a new PSP, and some physical PSP games that they can't play.
 

CAVE343

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BaZZaa said:
And to be clear, Nedgame isn't a Leading Dutch retailer.
the article states:
"Holland's largest specialised retail outlet"
Meaning the largest independent shop specialised in game retail. Of course chains like Media Market etc. etc. are bigger.
 
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