John Kowalski
Banned
Xenoblade has cost this man his life.
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NOA localizer insists Xenoblade too risky, defends Wii U naming
- Thread starter Agent Unknown
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That really sucks. No one wanted that at all. That Nintendo would give the okay for something like that podcast appearance always felt iffy and it looks like he clearly misunderstood that position and is now paying the price. I hope he can land on his feet.
Don't think this should be a fireable offense but if NoA has a no tolerance rule for something like this then it makes sense why he was fired. People can not blame gaf and others on this. Ultimately he was wrong in his judgement that this would be okay. Perhaps had it not gotten attention he might still have his job or maybe not. We don't know. It might not even be the fact that he made the appearance but what he said and how it made Nintendo look regardless of the attention it got.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Congrats internet outrage machine, you got yourselves another notch on your belt.
Reallink
Member
Didn't listen to the podcast, what was said outside of the OP stuff? There has to be more, cause the OP excerpts, he's really just parroting what is demonstrably the NoA corporate culture and mantra. Reggie has made the same kind of comments when pressed about stuff like white 3DS's or games passed over for localization. I guess it was strictly the Simpson's comic book man impression that did him in?
Welcome to the internet age where anything you have said can blow up and get you fired in less than a week.
I assume the reality of the situation is that Nintendo had to prove a point more than they "wanted" to fire the guy. This is a hell of a way to drive the point home to other employees to not go on podcasts. Is it right? Probably not, but I sure as hell wouldn't speak candidly on a podcast about my job if this had happened recently.
Leatherface
Member
Hey GAF, can we use the power of the internets to get this guy his job back? We all screw up sometimes, I don't feel this should have cost him his job though. I feel like his dreams have been destroyed.
Petition!!
Petition!!
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Deleted member 47027
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Hey GAF, can we use the power of the internets to get this guy his job back? We all screw up sometimes, I don't feel this should have cost him his job though. I feel like his dreams have been destroyed.
No, you can't undo this shit.
Leatherface
Member
sucks.
It got spin so bad in Japan
very very bad spin
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8288093.html
and I known it gotta be big deal there (at nintendo)
but as big as firing someone is very sad
very very bad spin
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8288093.html
and I known it gotta be big deal there (at nintendo)
but as big as firing someone is very sad
Welp. There it is.
RomanceDawn
Member
I read it through auto translate but could you give me a better idea of how it got spun?
Jesus, 1306 Comments!
What was written in the Article? And could someone tell how the tone of the first few Comments were?
He talking about Xenoblade, but all there show and main interest in comment are about Xenoblade X
the direction they want to lead is "Xenoblade X is failure and don't deserve localize"
「ファンはローカライズして出せって言うけどそんなに売れない。ゼノブレイドクロスも赤字確定」
Fans want game to get localize but don't buy it
Xenoblade X is "red letter" too
Damn, this completely destroyed my heart.
Hope he'll be fine.
HeavyMetalLover91
Member
I don't have the time currently to read through all 11 pages of this thread, could someone sum up why people got mad? I read the OP and I can see why some of his comments were controversial but what was the internet blow up and why is it being seen as part of the reason the guy got fired?
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Deleted member 47027
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Basically the combo of:
1 - Their dollar is actually insignificant in the company's eyes (and truly is insignificant)
2 - The suggestion Nintendo fans may have nasally voices
Reason he got the boot is he went onto a podcast, representing Nintendo (even if you say you aren't, you are) and dropped privileged information
Anyone have a translation? I want to know exactly how bad it got spun that NOJ wanted this dude fired.
HeavyMetalLover91
Member
Ah ok, thanks. Well, while I feel sorry for the guy he should have known that you gotta be careful with a company like Nintendo. :/ Of course hindsight is a wonderful thing but I hope he lands on his feet.
Crankshaft
Member
People got upset that the guy made the fans sound stupid. Also he made nintendo of america sound like they were too scared to spend money and that they hid behind nintendo of europe to save the day. The only reason we got Xenoblade is because Europe took the financial hit to do all the translation work.
DarknessTear
Banned
I see a lot of people in that Japanese site saying "pig" and "boo-kun". Oh boy.
Again that's not really the problem with Xenoblade, if they have a very full year they can't do everything at once. If they delegate to NoE it's fine.
The part about making an extremely limited release and barely producing the stuffs is where NoA is shit.
The Jackdog
Member
I feel unbelievably bad for the guy but i cant really see how it came as much a surprise.
a non marketing non pr position goes and makes a bunch of statements not approved by a company, and isnt nintendo pretty notorious for controlling messaging?
a non marketing non pr position goes and makes a bunch of statements not approved by a company, and isnt nintendo pretty notorious for controlling messaging?
Neff
Member
Didn't you know? Petitions can accomplish anything. And if they can't, then we'll start petitions to make sure they can.
This. I guess I need to listen to the podcast for more details, because during the operation rainfall period, Reggie stated almost the exact same position regarding localization concerns as the OP quoted.
Even still, just based on the OP quote highlights, absolutely nothing new was gained from that appearance that hasn't been argued or inferred to death already for years. No revelatory insights or damning new information.
LastOne2100
Member
Reggie in his position is allowed to speak to the press, and is likely still coached by marketing about what topics he should avoid. This guy did not have company approval to talk about internal processes and proceeded to do so anyways.
I'm actually glad he got fired. Any other company should have and would have done exactly the same thing. If you've ever worked for any reasonable company, you know how strict these kind of rules are, and why they are so strict.
LastOne2100
Member
If this sort of thing was not punished severely (and I don't even believe firing is that severe in this case - they could go after him in court), it would happen more often, and could cause immeasurable damage. It might not be nice if a father of two young children is jailed for 5 years for robbing a store because he was poor, but again, I'm not going to let every father of two rob stores without being punished because it's sad.
Anyone had to have known what they were doing in that position (again, I've worked for very similar companies as Nintendo) was 100% against company policy. It's not like he thought he was doing the right thing and should be surprised.
Fuck off with this nonsense. The hell is wrong with you?
LastOne2100
Member
Read my earlier reply. Firing is the correct response to this. I am glad because Nintendo took this seriously as they should've. If they threw a huge lawsuit at him for breach of contract or something like that - ok - too far. This is the correct response to a significant breach of company policy. You might not see it that way - but I've worked in large companies, and even worked on these sort of policies, and I've seen the damage that can be done from these sorts of breaches.
If I did the same thing at my company, I would expect to be marched out the door the next day.
You do have a point there. If Nintendo had sued him it would have been a way bigger headache than just losing your job.
Linkstrikesback
Member
There are plenty of ways you can punish someone without firing them. Maybe this wasn't his first strike? We can't know. I hope it wasn't, because just even if it is out of line, he didn't do much, if any, damage with what he said. Maybe they have a zero tolerance policy, but it still sucks that a guy lost his job.
What is it konamis doing nowadays, making them clean toilets?
JayWood2010
Member
Pathetic somebody lost their job over this. This is a part of the reason the gaming community irritates me.
LastOne2100
Member
Sure, you could. But in any company with valuable secret information, giving unauthorized interviews containing any discussion about company workings is more than enough grounds for instant termination. First strike, second strike - this is the real world. These things don't exist. He broke one of the most serious company policies - what do you people expect Nintendo to do?
I am amazed that there are people here who think that isn't the case. To those of you who think this is harsh - please be careful out in the workforce.
People losing their job over this sort of thing is not a rarity. Also i don't see what it has to do with the "gaming community" because it happens in every industry. That's part of the corporate world.
Milly Osworth
Member
This happens way too much lately. Can't people just stop rioting about EVERYTHING behind their screen?
sexymajesco
Banned
This is in no way exclusive to gaming, any company would fire you if you did something similar.
JayWood2010
Member
Im talking about the over-reaction in the gaming community to every small detail.
I'd sign one. Mob mentality probably got this guy fired. Maybe it can get it back.Hey GAF, can we use the power of the internets to get this guy his job back? We all screw up sometimes, I don't feel this should have cost him his job though. I feel like his dreams have been destroyed.
Petition!!
I sincerely doubt it though. Bending back to outrage isn't a way to conduct a business.
Hey GAF, can we use the power of the internets to get this guy his job back? We all screw up sometimes, I don't feel this should have cost him his job though. I feel like his dreams have been destroyed.
Petition!!
It doesn't matter if shit hit the fan overseas.
Do you work for Nintendo too?
Grampa Simpson
Banned
The point of view at NOA is that if the individual project to localize won't make money, then it shouldn't be done. This a very legitimate argument.
The better argument is that they should localize everything, even the niche products because it will make for a bigger and better catalog overall, and will garner them more users. Captain rainbow may tip 10k potential buyers over the edge, at which point they'll also pick up 3 mario games and 2 zelda games, and eventually other games as well.
The better argument is that they should localize everything, even the niche products because it will make for a bigger and better catalog overall, and will garner them more users. Captain rainbow may tip 10k potential buyers over the edge, at which point they'll also pick up 3 mario games and 2 zelda games, and eventually other games as well.
You should check the Super Mario Maker unlocking tools over 9 days thread... 34 pages of rage, hyperbole and even lot's of preorders being cancelled as well. Doesn't seem the online riots will stop anytime soon :'(