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NPD Sales Results for August 2014 [Up4: PS4 #1, XB1 last week sales 2x last Jul week]

timlot

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Only 41k Madden bundles? Ouch.
If I have an XB360 or PS3 Madden is not going to get me to pay $400 for a new system. Its just not that big of a leap in graphics and definitely not in gameplay.

The white PS4 Destiny bundle is unique. There was thread on slickdeals where people were trading there black PS4 in during the June GameStop %50 trade in deal and putting it towards the Destiny bundle.
 

Evenflow

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You're describing pushing sales to the realm of 60K (EDIT: perhaps not even that) and still, from memory, sub-Dreamcast levels, as a success and certainly not a dead system?
Well my double theory was already shot down so.... :( I meant relative to last year when ya the Wii U was pretty much DOA, if it can pull some good holiday sells like I listed, then yes I would certainly not describe it as a dead system....Is that outrageous or something? I think comparisons to the Dreamcast are silly as the bar to set for a dead system for many factors including sega's financial situation and the fire-sales at $49 which skew the numbers. Now Vita, that's a dead system if you want to set the bar somewhere.
 

gundamkyoukai

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TOX2 did bad but that was expected , Zesteria might do even worst 2015 last gen game.
NB need to put it on current gen and next month going to be super interesting .
 

AniHawk

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yes silly, it's a limbo game...it didn't completely bomb
well i guess in relative terms. i also was off on the amount the system had grown yoy. it was actually 10%. from january to april, the wii u sold 249,000 units. the same time in 2013, it sold 226,000 units.

from may to july, the system sold 282,000 units, compared to the 105,000 it sold during that same period in 2013. with upcoming bundles and some anticipated software, the platform will keep above 2013's levels on a monthly basis until the end of the year. 2015 will be the system's decline, with maybe some initial spillover from december of this year into january and february, similar to mario kart 8's waning effects.
 
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Your link added nothing of value to cannibalization argument. I'm not sure what you are intending to state.
Destiny bundle is best selling console for moth of September (thus far) at #6. Standalone PS4 is second at #12. Xbox One is third at #32. The cannibalized standalone sales are still higher than Xbox one. That does imply both SKUs are doing quite well.
 

DangerMouse

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I don't know. I think the Tales game is one of the only reasons I have hung on to my PS3 so far. (besides Suikoden 2). I really hope they get a PS4 Tales game announced soon.
I bought it as well, Collector's Edition.

Here's hoping. This topic below linked to an interview where they initially hinted that they started early work on the first PS4 Tales (before it was changed), but either way we probably won't really hear anything until atleast Zestiria is out in Japan. Hopefully they have since other parts of Namco Bandai already are like the Idolmaster team and the DBZ one etc..

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=715706
 

creamsugar

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Sorry, didn't count the ultimate ed of 15, so the new parentage is:
35%
27%
22%
16%
And total > 1.1m

D3 total < 400k
 

shinra-bansho

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Using PS4 190K as base, XB1 160K as base, and an average.
Code:
PS4	190.0	188.5	189.3
WIU	59.7	59.3	59.5
XB1	161.2	160.0	160.6
PS3	27.2	27.0	27.1
WII	13.5	13.4	13.4
360	49.5	49.1	49.3
There's also measurement error.

Should be close approximations.
 

Ty4on

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Angles:
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9.678
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161.24k for XB1
59.7k for WiiU
27.2k for PS3
13.47k for Wii
49.47k for 360

Sorry for late post. Slow calculations :p

Edit: 190k as base because that is the only concrete number we have and I believe it is the most accurate. No one directly said XB1 did 160k.
 

Usobuko

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Using PS4 190K as base, XB1 160K as base, and an average.
Code:
PS4	190.0	188.5	189.3
WIU	59.7	59.3	59.5
XB1	161.2	160.0	160.6
PS3	27.2	27.0	27.1
WII	13.5	13.4	13.4
360	49.5	49.1	49.3
There's also measurement error.

Should be close approximations.
Thanks for the figures, fitting to the context.
 

StoopKid

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Well, right, that's my point really. This generation isn't contracting because of "the Wii fad," it's contracting because new competitors rose up and started taking chunks out of the console market. The newest (And consequently least loyal) console customers went first, which is no surprise, but we may be starting to see other customers go too; it's hard to say so far.
I feel like it would have contracted quicker if it wasn't for the wii .
 
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Seriously? Why is Microsoft allowing this to continue? That's ridiculous
Microsoft paid the NFL for their partnership, but they don't control the TV networks that broadcast the games. Ironically, PS4 has actually gotten better exposure than Xbone during NFL opening week. I've been seeing tons of Destiny commercials during NFL games, that all end with the white PS4 bundle.
 

SwiftDeath

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PS4 ~ 190k
XB1 ~ 160.2k
WIU ~ 59.75k
360 ~ 49.5k
PS3 ~ 27.25k
Wii ~ 13.5k

Based off Shinra's angles

badly beaten :\
 

AniHawk

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59.7k for Wii U then. Unless the Wii U chunk is at the top, and 360 beat it..
yeah see that's what i was thinking (360 > wii u). however, 59k would mean wii u didn't double last year's sales - it would have fallen 2k short of them. it would also be good for my predictions, as i guessed 60k.
 

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I think ToX pulled a Legendia on ToX2.
Have it sitting somewhere, was one of those games that didn't get localised here in Europe and my backlog still contains PS1 games,..oh and I don't get the reference, mind explaining?

Why do people think destiny bundled is such a big deal? It's ten dollars less than if you bought a system and game of your choice anytime.
All those adverts, Mind share, hype etc.

That pretty much confirms namco needs to go cross gen with Zesteria if they want tales to be relevant in the west.
Please! Everything coming out for PS3 now seems kinda DOA, 2015 seems well...what's more dead than dead?

WiiU should drop price to 150. That is my personal thought.
....no that's stupid. Even more stupid than Sega but bundling two games could be good. Bayonetta....do it Nintendo.
 

DangerMouse

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Now imagine Tales of Zestiria sales next year, no wonder why Atlus put Persona 5 on PS4...
What scares me it's Bamco loosing the faith in western markets with Tales Of...
Yeah, one would hope they'd realize that being so "late" is atleast partially accountable for it, but hopefully they follow Atlus and manage to cross-gen it since the US and Europe will have moved even further into next gen by the time Zestiria comes out.
 
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Microsoft paid the NFL for their partnership, but they don't control the TV networks that broadcast the games. Ironically, PS4 has actually gotten better exposure than Xbone during NFL opening week. I've been seeing tons of Destiny commercials during NFL games, that all end with the white PS4 bundle.
I knew that $400 million dollar deal was a waste of money the first time I heard it at the reveal. Now I'm seeing it in action. It's truly a shame since the Surface is a fantastic device.
 

damisa

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Angles:
136.48
42.917
115.82
19.567
9.678
35.538
Using 190K for PS4 as reference I get:
PS4 - 190K
WiiU - 59.7K
XB1 - 161K
PS3 - 27.24K
Wii - 13.47K
360 - 49.47K
Total 501K

edit: 2007 numbers:
PS2 202,000
360 277,000
PS3 131,000
Wii 404,000
Total 1014K
 

SenjutsuSage

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Is MS doesn't win November, then I will be speechless. If they can't win with MCC and COD in the same month, WITH bundles, then nothing will save them.

Especially with Sony's 2015 which looks absolutely killer.
Halo MCC is a pretty important release, as are sunset overdrive and forza horizon 2. And, yes, we know COD is popular and a pretty big deal, but you don't feel that you're vastly underestimating the Xbox One's 2015 by laying down all the marbles on this November like they have nothing else that can possibly top it next year even with full knowledge of what's coming to the PS4?

I mean, holiday 2015 is when the first real next gen Halo game from 343i arrives, it's possibly also around that same time that Quantum Break releases, and it's certainly when a proper next gen sequel to Tomb Raider releases. As good as this November could be for the Xbox One, I'd say next year has serious potential to be a whole lot better.
 

shinra-bansho

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Madden Y/Y comp probably needs to wait until year end considering a reasonable amount also sold on the new consoles later in the year from memory.
 
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Bamco may be trying to make Zesteria timed exclusive to PS3 and add some content to release "ultimate" version to PS4 later on. That tactic sometimes works but not always.

I'm surprised Atlus didn't pull that tactic but instead decided for simultaneous cross-gen release.
I've been thinking this, and that and the large ammount of dual day-and-date releases over there are why P5's PS4 announcement wasn't much of a surprise to me. I wouldn't doubt your assessment for this reason, either.
 

ethomaz

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Thanks guys for all these maths with angles and things... it is amazing.

And of course thanks Cream and Aqua for share the material to work on the graphs
 
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Halo MCC is a pretty important release, as are sunset overdrive and forza horizon 2. And, yes, we know COD is popular and a pretty big deal, but you don't feel that you're vastly underestimating the Xbox One's 2015 by laying down all the marbles on this November like they have nothing else that can possibly top it next year even with full knowledge of what's coming to the PS4?

I mean, holiday 2015 is when the first real next gen Halo game from 343i arrives, it's possibly also around that same time that Quantum Break releases, and it's certainly when a proper next gen sequel to Tomb Raider releases. As good as this November could be for the Xbox One, I'd say next year has serious potential to be a whole lot better.
I agree there could potentially be a Halo 5 bundle, Black Ops 3 bundle, Quantum Break AND Rise of the Tomb Raider.

I think this is easily a better line up than this November and that's just what we know so far.
 

Holographix

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Is MS doesn't win November, then I will be speechless. If they can't win with MCC and COD in the same month, WITH bundles, then nothing will save them.

Especially with Sony's 2015 which looks absolutely killer.
I'm not familiar with the statistics, but isn't Madden bigger than Halo? Even of we're talking about only on that specific console?