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NPD Sales Results for December 2014 [Up2: Nintendo Sales Notes]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Yeah you probably missed it cause the news is very recent. I personally felt they were destroyed in the month of November in NA, but let's see.
Your point about pissing all their profits away is very relevant too and I fully agree with it. In hindsight, I didn't think of this point well enough.
I'm guessing cause the NA market is very relevant. In their defense though the sales difference in monthly hardware sales in December is a lot smaller than that of November right? I recall in November Xbox One sold a lot more than the PS4 that month.
Dude, I thought that was my alarm clock. Thanks for letting me know about the Christmas miracle.
I wonder how far off the Jan-Nov total it was.
Man, I have waited for you!
DarkLordMalik
Member
Putting them along latest figures from Japan
Vita = 2,172,000 (US) + 3,503,000 (Japan) = 5,675,000
Wii U = 3,688,000 (US) + 2,179,000 (Japan) = 5,867,000
This leaves Asia/Europe. Hmmm....
Oh really? I had no idea.
I'm not sure myself, what I do know is in the UK the PS4 software sales are very, very healthy and stronger than the XB1's.
Wait, Vita sold 150k in December???
NPD december is from nov 30 to jan 03
Media Create dec 01 to jan 04 has Vita with 183.651
Yeah, it really could go either way...which is pathetic...for both of them lol.
It'd be nice if Sony gave numbers though.
spatenfloot
Member
In Japan, people buy Vitas in January with their Xmas money. December is mostly Nintendo.
Superman00
Liverpool01
Nope, XBOX1 isn't closing any gap. In order to close the gap WW, XBOX1 would have to sell several times that of the PS4 each month in the US. Even if you take US and Japan numbers away from the PS4, high chance that the PS4 still outsold XBOX1.
Apologies if I missed the discussion (UK time doesn't work for these threads), but has it been confirmed that xbox was top for December? Their PR says top for November and December so would be good to know if that decodes as
Top selling for november, and too selling for December
Or
Top selling for (november + December)
Top selling for november, and too selling for December
Or
Top selling for (november + December)
spatenfloot
Member
I thought I saw that Vita does fairly well in Europe compared to Wii U. Might be mistaken though.
Nightengale
Member
I think it's fair to say they themselves were shocked by November. However, it's also true that they barely did anything in Nov until BF itself.
I look at December as how a rational US market reacts to 349 with 2 games vs 399 with 1 game.
IMO, a 6:5 ratio, all things considered, is pretty decent for Sony.
Aquamarine
Member
both.
To be fair, Sony should be concerned since the NA market is very relevant, but Sony has enough of a lead with PS4 to let things play out for a while before they would need to react assuming XB1 continues to outsell the PS4 in NA.
Basically, the North American market is extremely important... for MS who depends on that market to even be able to compete. For Sony, it is not as important even though it is still an important market for Sony and for console gaming in general.
spatenfloot
Member
Xbone won NPD for both months individually, but not enough to make up for elsewhere.
I don't think so. We never seem to get many numbers, but Vita software sales pales in comparison to the Wii U's, and the Wii U's pales in comparison to common decency.
EDIT: That may just be those UK charts though.
....but Wii U games barely chart in the UK.
If Vita has a saving grace, it's liekly Rest of the World.
DarkLordMalik
Member
It does well in Asia and is decent enough (Tales) in Europe since SCEE actually bothers marketing it there.
TBH, using software sales of Vita to judge hardware is not a good way as Vita software pales in comparison to Wii U first party offering.
Got it.
You know, when you think about it, Nintendo obtained to sell well over 100,000 copies at retail (between 3DS and Wii U) of collections of NES romhacks / challenges XD
Back in the days when Nintendo released marketshare information, the Vita always outsold the Wii U in Europe. The situation was practically inverse from NA, where the Wii U outsells the Vita. That was before the heavy hitters (MK and Smash) of this year though.
I would guess the Vita is still leading though.
higgsboson1997
Member
Anything for Hyrule Warriors?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Amiibos were up like 60% from Nov to dec
In fact I think it did better than Skylanders and Disney in December BUT that's only really by pack, I.e all amiibo are like one single pack but some of the Disney ones for example have like Marvel or Disney originals and combining those it's way more.
I guess nintendo will eventually get different packs out there like the new super mario bros line, it's a good strategy because it seems to add duplicate sales and not cannibalize
In fact I think it did better than Skylanders and Disney in December BUT that's only really by pack, I.e all amiibo are like one single pack but some of the Disney ones for example have like Marvel or Disney originals and combining those it's way more.
I guess nintendo will eventually get different packs out there like the new super mario bros line, it's a good strategy because it seems to add duplicate sales and not cannibalize
Around 370k
Never mind the digital sales from Wii U of the two games as standalone releases. They must've made a nice return on that investment.
spatenfloot
Member
Yeah, but Vita tends to have a very high digital sales percentage compared to other systems. Probably because it has so little retail presence.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Yes I agree with that. But Sony will need to react in some fashion to not let the Xbox One race too far ahead in NA, a very important market.
Yeah, that wouldn't be too bad. But again, I believe if they want to not let Xbox One race ahead too much in NA they'll need to react quicker. With the Xbox One price cut in full effect now at $350 and Sony with no moves yet (other than free The Last of Us Remastered in select retailers), they'll need to move.
That is true. It is a risk though, waiting for too long. But it is also a risk to take action now and let their profits slide a bit. Tricky situation.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Looking forward to what's going to happen if Sony finally takes dat foot off the break pedal... Not going to happen before June, though.
StoppedInTracks
Member
creamsugar said:
I think you have an error in your data, cream. You missed one zero. DC should be at 840k with the amount of hype, posts and gifs generated here on NeoGAF. 84k is the amount of vivek's posts only
I just googled for a random 2014 chart cause I didn't want to go thread hunting.
hmm...they're actually closer than I thought tbh in retail. Well, sort of.
Not sure digital makes up for all of it for Vita...and what that means for HW extrapolation, but it just seemed to me that since the UK is such a bad territory for Wii U and things barely chart, I assumed the discrepancy would be larger in other areas. But I don't about how Vita does in those territories
Who knows? Guess it doesn't really matter. Both are...just bad.
spatenfloot
Member
They are reacting. They are releasing games soon.
Sony won't need to react quickly. Sales will drop off a cliff now we're in January, so even if xbox takes the next few months, it'll be by a few thousand here and there. And I think Sony has the software this half to counter a $50 orice difference.
MS probably dropped the price back because nobody was buying the Xbox. Which makes sense if you put the price up and stop bundling.
MS probably dropped the price back because nobody was buying the Xbox. Which makes sense if you put the price up and stop bundling.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Adding Asia/Europe numbers definitely put it above Wii U. I would love to see the numbers for these regions and the WW LTD of both failures
I am expecting a price cut but even later than that, sometime for the holidays I think.
Their exclusive lineup this year is incredible IMO.
Yeah, if the difference is minor between hardware every month, I don't think Sony will need to do much. They'll have to be better equipped for the next holiday season though. Because by the time Sony cuts the price by $50 or so, Xbox can easily drop to $300 "temporarily" by then.
Superman00
Liverpool01
Sony has internal targets. They are not gonna react because the XBOX1 outsold the PS4. They are most likely gonna act when sales starts slowing down and no longer meets their internal targets.
PS4 LTD in the US is about 6.7M. While their LTD is 18.5M. So the US only accounts for about 36%.
While the XBOX1 is at about 6.2M in the US. Since we don't know the XBOX1 WW numbers, let say they sold about 10.5M. That would put the US ratio at 59%.
The US is very very important for MS, but to Sony, it's roughly only 1/3 of the market. It's important, but not something they have to react to MS just cause they got outsold the last 2 months.
Nah, 2014 has been horrible for the Vita here while WiiU ganed7wome momentum after MK8. we don't have numbers but seeing how often the Slim Vita is on sale I doubt they are selling as much as in the years prior while WiiU numbers increased.
Indeed... If Sony does need to react more than they already have, it will probably be in March since knowing how well the XB1 has sold in January and especially February would give a clearer sign on if Sony should drop price in March or just wait until either E3 or November to do it. I am at least sure Sony will drop the price by November if only to prevent MS from doing what they did with the Xbox One this year with the extended Black Friday sale that will so conveniently become basically permanent soon. Sony won't let that happen again and sales will have slowed down enough to justify a price drop.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Well its support in Japan is starting to die out, and the xmas sales of the Vita were fairly bad, but let's not go there since that's been overdone anyhow.
So if I'm not mistaken, of the first party Nintendo titles on Wii U.... Sales order in the US was
Mario Kart 8
Super Smash Bros for Wii U
DKC: Tropical Freeze
Hyrule Warriors
Captain Toad
Bayonetta 2
NES Remix (Wii U)?
Wii Fit U (retail)... (although we don't have updated #s here, did it finally crawl past 100K? Or did it somehow sell worse than Sonic Boom Wii U...)
Highest debut tho were:
Smash
Mario Kart 8
Captain Toad (this is pretty funny, but awesome too)
Hyrule Warriors
DKC: TF
Bayonetta 2 / NES Remix Pack
Wii Fit U retail
Also do we have any updated #s for Wii U titles from last year? Like has 3D World finally passed 1M here?
And you know this from what numbers? You could also argue that it sells more units because it is on sale.
Wii U might have some momentum for a year but the Vita outsold it for many periods before and we do have numbers for that, just look up the old Nintendo investor relations material. I don't think this 1 year was enough to pull in front of the Vita in Europe given the headstart and the better sales of the Vita for quite some time.
Frankensteiner
Banned
Unsurprising. The only reason PS4 sold more first, and the reason the Xbone is selling more now is price. Considering how the game libraries for both have gotten increasingly similar over the years there's not much else to bank one(although price was always the main reason).
I'm happy that the console industry is doing well considering the doom and gloom we've heard before. Not saying it'll be around forever, but it's definitely a lot healthier than previously thought. Hell, even the Wii U is doing a lot better than we previously thought. So that's good news no matter how you slice it if you give any sort of a fuck about console gaming. Seeing as I'm one of those people with all options covered(PC, Console, Mobile, etc.) I'm hoping that this alternative doesn't die too soon.
2015 is going to be an interesting year, that's for sure.
I'm happy that the console industry is doing well considering the doom and gloom we've heard before. Not saying it'll be around forever, but it's definitely a lot healthier than previously thought. Hell, even the Wii U is doing a lot better than we previously thought. So that's good news no matter how you slice it if you give any sort of a fuck about console gaming. Seeing as I'm one of those people with all options covered(PC, Console, Mobile, etc.) I'm hoping that this alternative doesn't die too soon.
2015 is going to be an interesting year, that's for sure.
I've already commented Bayonetta 2 numbers, so about the others
3DS
Yoshi...Yoshi did much better than I expected. Big legs, after all.
Tomodachi Life is actually a bit lower than what I imagined, especially seeing European numbers. Adding first month's digital numbers, it's at about 437,000 units. It should be over 450,000 overall, when digital numbers up to now are included. Still, good result, and it should be a bi-million seller in the West next year.
Good job for Kirby, I think it could continue selling next year as well (a little amount every month, of course).
Great Bravely Default! IIRC, first month's digital numbers were between 35,000 and 40,000 units, so it should be at 400,000 overall.
Fantasy Life did improve from its first month, and I wonder what its digital sales look like. A bit meh.
Mario Golf ;_; Layton v.s. AA ;__; Sonic seems too high ;_____;
Wii U
After all, Donkey Kong is still selling. Unfortunately, it's a major, insane letdown compared to the first Returns on Wii. Still, I suppose it'll pass 500,000 in US soon enough, I hope it continues selling ;__;
Zelda Musou should be at 390,000 when digital sales for the first month are included. It did very well, after all. I wonder if a million WW is still a possibility, at this point.
Sonic: same as 3DS ;___;
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I think someone posted the total = 320K for the year, so that # was close to 47% of the Vita's sales in 2014.
And why is that? January is pretty slow in general. There is no indication the PS4 has been doing better for January. We don't know yet. Evidence points otherwise though. U.S is still up for grabs.
~375,000, actually. Regardless, without Dec. sales of Vita only averaged ~20k a month.
Godzilla's Left Toe
Member
Adding Asia/Europe numbers definitely put it above Wii U. I would love to see the numbers for these regions and the WW LTD of both failures
Don't we know numbers for France and Germany for Wii U I remember reading 490k for France and 350k for Germany on this site
Ultra Numb
Member
Good for Nintendo, compared to previous sales at least...
Their situation is actually somewhat of a downer though. It's hard to imagine Nintendo ever being back on top as the go to gaming console. They could have a machine that's on par with the others, they could have all the third party and I just still can't imagine people saying "I'm going to get Call of Duty on the Wii 2"
Their situation is actually somewhat of a downer though. It's hard to imagine Nintendo ever being back on top as the go to gaming console. They could have a machine that's on par with the others, they could have all the third party and I just still can't imagine people saying "I'm going to get Call of Duty on the Wii 2"
Well deserved. I hope AW does well enough for Acti to realize it is possible for them to change things up with CoD and it paying off in the long run.