Louis Cyphre
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After 5 years on market it will likely be 90 million PS4's sold, 60 million Xbox One's sold and maybe if they are lucky 25 million Wii-U's and that is if the Wii-U lasts for 5 years.
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NPD Sales Results for January 2015 [PS4 #1, Nintendo Numbers, XB1 Minimum]
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http://gamingeverything.com/uncharted-series-ships-over-14-million-units/
http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2012/03/13/uncharted-trilogy-ships-14-million/
Several sources reported this number. They claimed is from SCE Japan.
More likely 15 million Wii U.
And we know this because?
Last time I checked, we don't even know the exact release dates of many of the games coming out this year. Not sure where the assumption is coming from that they will only release their big games in October and November. Halo 5 for example could release in September for all we know.
Those are unknown websites, Sony already reported 13 million in November.
Welfare
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small44
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Halo 3 was heavily bundled.
Other then Halo 3 the drop between the last and current halo games it not big,i don't think the drop of Halo 5 will be big
This is strange anyway because they claimed 17,3 ML in April 2012
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/345007/uncharted-franchise-tops-17-million-sales/
And 13 million in December 5th 2011, one of those websites probably made up the 14 million, & the other two copied the headline.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Way too optimistic forecasts. For Xbone to get 60m in that timeframe, it needs sell around another 35m in the US in under 4 years going by worldwide sales ratios.
Unknown ? Maybe for you.
Anyway, the 9 million shipments for the series between october 2011 and april 2012 includes basically Uncharted 3, Uncharted Golden Abyss and Uncharted Double Pack.
Clearly the most of it is for Uncharted 3, but how much? We don't know, Uncharted Vita and Double Pack shipments could be much bigger than you think.
Welfare
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Through the power of reading both places*, yes.
We have an idea with Aqua's PM.
You're really reaching if you think the double pack or UC2 sold any significant number, the best selling non-UC3 item was most likely Golden Abyss, & I don't think it made up more than the 300k in the 17.3.
Shipments sometimes are much larger than actual sales for the period. It's common to see people wondering how a game shipped so much, because know sales are low.
I have no doubt that Uncharted 3 had very good sales, but your estimates sounds unrealistic to me.
The 17.3 million were sales, not shipments.
The only reason we're arguing about hard numbers is because you don't "feel" like UC3 did as well as Halo 3 because it didn't sell those units in MURICA.
No offense man, but go back & read our conversation from the start, you were first dismissing numbers provided by Sony, & then attributed a 250% attache rate to UC Vita, then it's UC2 that had a sudden surge of sales when UC3 launched & somehow nearly doubled its lifetime sales, & now it's just shipments.
What you "feel" isn't important here, America =/= World.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor
Sometimes, the simplest explanation is the correct one.
Yeah , it's hard to estrapolate a sold through number for Uncharted 3.
Anyway the franchise had a great growth from U1 to U3.
This is impossible.
No, 17.3m is shipments.
And you are wrong, I not dismissed Sony numbers, I was talking about Play Magazine Vita game sales (with is not from Sony) and certainly I not attributed a 250% attach rate to UC Vita.
Be honest in your statements.
Here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-deception-game-of-the-year-edition-announced
Look at the bottom right of the picture, that's "franchise sales", Sony is a publicly traded company.
Welfare
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Here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-deception-game-of-the-year-edition-announced
Look at the bottom right of the picture, that's "franchise sales", Sony is a publicly traded company.
That means shipments.
Here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-deception-game-of-the-year-edition-announced
Look at the bottom right of the picture, that's "franchise sales", Sony is a publicly traded company.
Sold= Sell in (Sales to retailers + digital)
Trust us , there is no way that Uncharted sold to customer 17,320 Ml ( at april 2012 ).
Sold = Sold to retailer ( and digital)
Shipped = Sold-in
Sold = Sold-through
Sony was always clear with the terms "shipped" & "sold".
Welfare
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When discussing numbers, they actually specify if it's sold to consumers though.
Wii U, smh. Disaster territory indeed. Gotta hand it to Nintendo, at least they're seeing it through with great content.
Next months will be fascinating to watch sales-wise. Definitely think status quo for a while, nothing too surprising. I guess I'll just be curious to see if Order or Bloodborne do decent numbers.
Next months will be fascinating to watch sales-wise. Definitely think status quo for a while, nothing too surprising. I guess I'll just be curious to see if Order or Bloodborne do decent numbers.
Nope. Look at this :
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-11-10-sony-uncharted-3-day-one-global-sales
This is not sold to customer.
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE) today announced that the global sales of the PlayStation®4 (PS4) exclusive title, KILLZONE SHADOW FALL, exceeded 2.1 million units
*Includes both Blu-ray Disc sell-in quantities and download version sales on PlayStation®Store.
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/140130_e.html
Is very common to announce sales as sell-in.
A Human Becoming
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Possibly its worse month ever.
Rogue_Ledr
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I doubt XB1 will be that high, unless they get their worldwide numbers up.
They sell well in the U.S., but not abroad.
Aquamarine
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Also, secondary news sources often dilute sell-in / sell-through definitions with the catch-all "sales."
Many people don't understand or care about the difference.
Welfare
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It actually is. N3DS is going to have to put up those big sales numbers.
I expect good sales for New 3DS at the beginning, but after will go back to low numbers.
But they did specify that the 3.8 million were shipped, some websites just reported them as sold.
Which is why they specifically said "sold-in".
Even if we assume that those were shipments, the franchise was "shipping" at an insanely accelerated rate when UC3 launched, it went from 8 million in Oct 11 to 13 million in Dec 11 to 17 million in Apr 12.
& those numbers do not include the GOTY edition or the 2012 bundle.
If we have to believe what Shogun said in the New 3DS official thread, 3DS could actually have a great month incoming, sales-wise. At least for Gamestop. And this is with shortages.
I bet big part is for current owners.
1st Course
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Unless stated otherwise, global sale figures are almost always shipped numbers. Prior to this generation I actually don't recall a company announcing WW sell-through.
Agree.
Anyway guys do you think that we'll see huge price cut for PS4 and One this holiday?
Welfare
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Xbox One will probably have a $299 with a game bundle for Nov+Dec.
$299 PS4 for Black Friday.
The Artisan
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so we should not expect a standard retail price cut for the Ps4 this year?
Yeah, is normal this confusion with shipped/sold. Companies could be more clear, but I suppose this doesn't benefit them.
Also, if you have conditions to look at NPD data, can give us an idea of how much Uncharted 3 sold?
Welfare
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I'm thinking Sony will try to keep the $399 price tag as long as possible and pepper 2015 with some good deals and a bundle or 2.
$299 in 2016.
I think will be a $50 cut.
To be clearer, this is what TheShogun said about New 3DS XL sales (remind, at Gamestop) so far
Also, we have an entire thread dedicated to how the console has sold out in many other stores (not just GS), especially in specific areas. It sounds like Nintendo didn't ship such a huge amount of consoles, but also that demand is there, and seemingly a pretty good one.
Also, we have an entire thread dedicated to how the console has sold out in many other stores (not just GS), especially in specific areas. It sounds like Nintendo didn't ship such a huge amount of consoles, but also that demand is there, and seemingly a pretty good one.
Yeah, half the websites reporting the 3.8 million UC3 launch day figure reported it as "sold", some games journalists don't even know the difference.
The Artisan
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if the ratio is selling 2:1 I doubt it will be 90m Ps4s to 60m xbones.
PS4 sounds right. XB1 and Wii U seem too high.
I would say...
PS4: 90 Million
Xbox One: 45 Million
Wii U: 15 Million
StrongBlackVine
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It will probably be a permanent price cut in time for the holidays
StrongBlackVine
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No way they close out this year at $399.
Didn't PS3 sell like 80m already? Or are we closer to ~85 by now?
PS4 has significantly outsold the PS3 in the same time frame, I don't see how it will only sell 90m the way its been dominating this gen so far. It will easily blow past 100m.