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NPD Sales Results for July 2014 [Up1: 3DS LTDs, Wii U LTDs, Tomodachi]

Aquamarine

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I'm curious; are refurbished Wii U's counted in the NPD?
NPD has historically tracked refurbished consoles.

For example:

N64 ATOMIC PURPLE BUNDLE
N64 FUNTASTIC FIRE
N64 FUNTASTIC GRAPE
N64 FUNTASTIC ICE
N64 FUNTASTIC JNGLE GREEN
N64 FUNTASTIC SMOKE
N64 FUNTASTIC WATERMELON
N64 GOLD SYS/2 CONTROL
N64 PIKACHU SYSTEM
N64 PIKACHU SYSTEM BUNDLE
N64 POKEMON STADIUM BNDL
N64 SYS W/ DONKEY KONG
N64 SYS W/ SW EPISODE 1
N64 SYS W/ ZELDA
N64 SYSTEM
N64 SYSTEM REFURBISHED
N64 TV BUNDLE
 

Mysterious

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I'm curious; are refurbished Wii U's counted in the NPD?
Nope. Well technically they were counted at their initial point of sale (POS). So when the owner returned it to Nintendo to fix or whatever, Nintendo fixed it and sells that unit again. But it's already been counted as a sale with the previous owner. And the previous owner's replacement doesn't get "double counted".

So really, there could theoretically be more Wii U units out there in homes due to refurbished sales, but the number is likely too minuscule to even consider.
 

Sami+

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I forget, do we often figure out or have software sales leaked from NPD? Very curious about TLoU.

Edit - asking because I usually only pay attention to hardware
 

Linearskillz

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I forget, do we often figure out or have software sales leaked from NPD? Very curious about TLoU.

Edit - asking because I usually only pay attention to hardware
Yeah we usually get leaked numbers. Mr. Cream usually posts funny game names with numbers and we get to guess what's what. It's a fun game!
 

AniHawk

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Xbox family < PS4
WiiU + XB1 < PS4 + PS3
i take this to mean that ps4 + ps3 isn't greater than xbox family + wii u, which would put mean something like my predictions would work pretty well.

it's not ps4 > wii u + xb1 though, so the wii u and/or xb1 did better than i had thought.

regardless, i guess the order is ps4 > xb1 > wii u > 360 > ps3
 

TetraGenesis

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And in the long gone yesteryear
Don Mattrick's words made Redmond cheer
"Ten million first shall win this race!"
He said, with grin upon his face.

"The coming battle shall be won right here,
With games like Halo and Forza and Gears."
He ended his statement with a triumphant nod
Secure in his love from the gaming gods

His words stoked fires among the fans
Each camp clenched swords in bloodied hands
The system warz began again
Three noble fighters, each sure to win

Microsoft, of course, had their white box
Sleek, and powerful, and filled with lots
Of games to play with friends new and old
Or even watch Netflix (if you paid for Gold)

The box upon which SCE was betting
Had power, confusion, and printer settings
The games would look and run so swell
If developers could handle the goddamn Cell

And in the third corner of the ring
Stood the tiny offering from the former king
An innovative waggle-box called the Wii
Would eventually win, quite handily

But fear not brave warriors! War is not through!
Nintendo returned with the shiny WiiU!
It's a console! It's a tablet! It's both things combined!
It's the word "underwhelming," redefined

The other two fighters each had a son
The 360 gave birth to the Xbox One
Underpowered, TV-focused, and chained to Kinect
It struggles to gain traction, or even respect

PS3's new child has shot up the charts
Sleek and powerful, with a gaming heart
It seems quite destined to stay far ahead
Unless Sony acts like Sony and shits in the bed

But now that Gamescom '14 is here at long last
Words did echo from deep in the past
"The first to 10 million shall win at all cost!"
Hung from Microsoft's neck like a stone albatross

So now Tokyo laughs as Redmond sneers
And Lara Croft's eyes well up with tears
For bad news has arrived for the mighty Xbone
PS4 was the first to reach Don's milestone

I posted this once in another thread, but it seemed fitting here too, considering the PS4's continued success. I hope it doesn't make me seem like an attention whore. This is the only time I'll repost it.
This was incredible. It's honestly well written and hilarious verse, bravo!

I read the whole thing out loud in an Ian McKellan voice because I DON'T KNOW I'M A WEIRDO I GUESS.
 

coolasj19

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Well done, Sony! And they achieved all this with almost no significant games throughout the summer. The numbers are going to be even better from now on with the fall lineup slowly arriving.
I for one can't wait to play all these games.
Diablo 3 arrives next week already :O Pretty pumped.
I just don't understand how a port of one of the greatest games of all time and the only simulator baseball game on the market don't count. Guys, seriously.

Are these NPD threads gonna be interesting after the holidays?
 

StoopKid

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I just don't understand how a port of one of the greatest games of all time and the only simulator baseball game on the market don't count. Guys, seriously.

Are these NPD threads gonna be interesting after the holidays?
Yep a ton of spin especially September and October.
 

Game Guru

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I'm not saying Nintendo needs to be the leader in that market, but instead to just sell enough units so it's not mind numbingly horrible.
What I mean is:

Sell worse than Xbox or PS with the Madden's and CODs, but still enough that games will actually get made for your system.
Maybe like 20-25% of sales for games like this instead of sub-10% to nonexistant.

For games like Lego and Skylanders, they should be leading the console sales if they want to win.

With these to supplement, the 1st party support could make up for the rest and help it be successful.

It may have come off differently before, but in way did I mean Nintendo should strive to like....have a Destiny have it sell the most on their system. That won't happen. Instead, try to have a Destiny or GTA....and it not bomb w101 style.
I think the ultimate issue with third-party multiplatform games is that the 18-35 male audience have two other perfectly serviceable consoles that cater to everything they might want. Again, what motivation would a PlayStation or XBox gamer have to get a Nintendo console over just sticking with PlayStation or Xbox if they aren't a fan of Nintendo's franchises?
 

Orthogonal

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I think the ultimate issue with third-party multiplatform games is that the 18-35 male audience have two other perfectly serviceable consoles that cater to everything they might want. Again, what motivation would a PlayStation or XBox gamer have to get a Nintendo console over just sticking with PlayStation or Xbox if they aren't a fan of Nintendo's franchises?
Unless you have kids, I don't see that demographic getting much into Nintendo. My kids are the only reason I have a Wii and am planning on getting a Wii U this Christmas. I have enjoyed plenty of games on the Wii over the years, but I doubt I would have gotten it without kids.
 

Mory Dunz

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I think the ultimate issue with third-party multiplatform games is that the 18-35 male audience have two other perfectly serviceable consoles that cater to everything they might want. Again, what motivation would a PlayStation or XBox gamer have to get a Nintendo console over just sticking with PlayStation or Xbox if they aren't a fan of Nintendo's franchises?
I typed a long response, but it was about having 3rd party games as supplements so consumers wouldn't have to choose Madden & COD or Mario, but rather choose by exclusives, specs, features, etc. But it started to sound like the GC and/or n64...sorta. And they failed.

So...dunno. I'm not even sure why those consoles failed so badly tbh.

EDIT:
One thing though. I don't PS or Xbox or Nintendo loyalty is really a big thing as shown by the past few gens. So while a console may be"serviceable" if something better came, people would buy it, at least.
 

aspiegamer

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Xbox family < PS4
WiiU + XB1 < PS4 + PS3
Let's try refine a few things into any sort of better-than-a-guess?

WiiU = ~80k or I think was estimated early on?
XB1 + 360 < PS4
~80k + XB1 < PS4 + PS3

~80k + XB1 - PS3 < PS4
~80k + XB1 - PS3 < XB1 + 360
~80k - 360 - XB1 < PS3

For the hell of it let's input the GAF aggregate estimates for 360 and PS3 (48k and 34k, respectively).

~80k - 48k - XB1 < 34k
XB1 > 66k

Okay, that wasn't remotely helpful. We already know it's better than that. Fuck.
/failure
 

NolbertoS

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First veratassin and now the Monty chap is banned. NPD threads aren't entertaining w/out some bans, GAF needs more entertainment, while we digest the numbers and contemplate how much more does MS need to do to get back this gen, other than buy EA and make Madden and FIFA exclusive to Xbox One
 

cw_sasuke

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NPD continues to suck without real hardware numbers. Urgh....