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[gotstrangepowers]

Dropped to 15k.

Ouch. And, none were/are available...

 

[damisa]

what i got

Looks good to me

 

[C4Lukins]

I'm confused wasn't this supposed to be the xbone's time to shine? Or Is that next month?

What big game or promotion does the XOne have next month? You are inventing a scenario that no logical person anticipated.

 

[Usobuko]

Best part of NPD thread would be to tune in later in day after every thing cooled down.

 

[benny_a]

Do we have an exact hardware count for either of the 3 consoles?

The most exact (= official) numbers will be in the OP every month. The other stuff is based on leaks and have inherent vagueness.

 

[Kiote]

We know Wii U sold 140K, PS4 share is nearly twice as large as the Wii U on that chart.

How do we know which is which? It's not labeled.

 

[CouldBeWorse]

I'm confused wasn't this supposed to be the xbone's time to shine? Or Is that next month?

Why would it? Being at price parity for 2/3 the month with no major exclusives?

It did what should have been expected - get closer to the PS4 but remain stuck in a clear 2nd place.

 

[Cuburt]

Perhaps she, as someone with NPD info, is implying that the chart is actually Wii U/360/PS3?

:O

Green outline = 360
Red outline = Nintendo = Wii U
Purple/blusish outline = Playstation = PS Vita

 

[joecanada]

I don't even think it is that to be honest. Simply put, consumers hear one machine is more powerful than the other and you are paying the same price, why would they (unless they have a big love for a specific IP that can only be found on the xbox) go to the weaker console. Whether we like it or not as Gaffers, most people play 3r'd party games, they are the big ones that sell a lot more than console exclusives. People will play them on whatever machine they can, and if two competing machines are the same price but all the consumer knows is one is actually more powerful, in their mind they just go "why would I buy a weaker machine".

I thought this was common knowledge by now. Every one of my friends who bought ps4 this spring bought bf4 first... (how bf4 actually performs is of course a seperate story)

 

[SwiftDeath]

Yeah, my rocket science nets me 266k and 196k.

Maybe we're all wrong (maybe it's the ouya, shield and vita), but it seems to be in that ball park.

Yeah I still think the Wii U number we got earlier might not be the same one CS is using exactly and that can cause problems too

what i got

Those gaps though

 

[Mysterious]

Welp

You can cross out the TV show as of today too.

 

[Jimmyfenix]

How are your ps4 predictions looking ladies and gentlemen?

 

[ascii42]

How do we know which is which? It's not labeled.

We know PS4 is #1 from Sony PR. We also know XB1>WiiU based on MS and Nintendo PR.

 

[HI. BILLY MAYS HERE]

 

[MoeB]

recreating the graph on excel gives me.

~45.45
~31.46
~23.07

So 270K PS4 and 192K Xbox?

 

[benny_a]

How do we know which is which? It's not labeled.

The biggest one is PS4 because it's the best selling one this month. The second biggest one is Xbone because it more than twice that of last month which is higher than Wii U.

 

[Mysterious]

Once again it's because all of the casuals from the Wii left to tablets/phones and never came back.

Considering the original intentions of the Xbox One and Wii U platforms, this is still not a good thing. Sony bet on the right market.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

If the numbers being tossed around are accurate, I might be forced into retirement from predictions. The game has passed me by.

 

[ProvenDeadly]

So what do we think about the Wii U's sales and the race to 2nd place? I remember people claiming the Wii U would beat the Xbox this month, and continue the trend by selling well each month. I don't see the Wii U selling nearly as well next month, it'll probably dip to a little above it's regular numbers until the next big game releases. This was a pretty barren month for Xbox, regardless of price cut.

 

[flohen95]

I think the graph could be showing sales of the console "families" (PS3/4, Xbox 360/One, Wii/U). Either that or MS understated, which I'd say is highly unlikely.
Though the graph could be anything really.

 

[metalslimer]

So are the Nintendo numbers really good or just good for Wii U? It honestly seems low to me, especially in the month where Nintendo releases what has become their biggest IP. Hard to imagine Smash Bros or even Zelda doing more for the console than Mario Kart can. I guess it's all about sustainability. Will be interesting to see how it does the next couple of months.

They certainly aren't really good in a vacuum. I think they'll have another price cut by the end of the year to 250 and have a smash bundle. There is no recovery. All in all I think mario kart is doing decently though

 

[Officerrob]

So are the Nintendo numbers really good or just good for Wii U? It honestly seems low to me, especially in the month where Nintendo releases what has become their biggest IP. Hard to imagine Smash Bros or even Zelda doing more for the console than Mario Kart can. I guess it's all about sustainability. Will be interesting to see how it does the next couple of months.

I think people are vastly overstating how good the Wii U number is. Reading this thread you would think that the Wii U has bounced back to relevancy while obituary's are being written for the Xbox One

 

[Kiote]

We also know XB1>WiiU based on MS and Nintendo PR.

I thought Microsoft only said it doubled sales MoM. We got no Microsoft numbers last month. Nintendo said it tripled sales YoY.

Do we have anything to base Microsofts numbers on?

 

[ultratruman]

I need a breakdown of how the PS4 is still selling this well. Does the mass market still think the Xbox is a DRM machine?

Momentum. The ludicrous amount of missteps and PR debacles which embroiled the Xbone project last year allowed Sony to claim a monopoly on most of the excitement around next-gen.

People will tell you the console business is a not a race but a marathon, and they're right in the sense that a console can be revitalised throughout its lifetime. However, having an early advantage and establishing yourself first as the de facto console for a respective generation (where most of your customer's friends are) is absolutely crucial to achieve that runaway snowball of sales that we've seen with the most successful consoles in history.

 

[Mysterious]

that was confirmed in Nintendo's PR wasn't it?

Well Minecraft is higher than UFC in the overall list, but UFC PS4 must be > Minecraft 360 for that Sony statement to be true.

 

[Akainu]

Guys I'm not serious.

 

[javac]

...You're joking, right? I hope you're joking.

Wasn't PSP at around 9.1Million in the US by the end of March 2007? That was around 2 years since it launched in the US. Vita came out about 2 years ago too right? 3DS reached 11.5Million in January this year. I wonder where Vita is.

 

[AniHawk]

Once again it's because all of the casuals from the Wii left to tablets/phones and never came back.

or as i would like to call it, an omen.

 

[Yoda]

So 270K PS4 and 192K Xbox?

Assuming the Wii U sold ~140k that looks right. Also assuming that said graph is a very simplistic breakdown of %share. Granted 270 seems rather high for the PS4.

 

[BananaSprinkles]

I thought Microsoft only said it doubled sales MoM. Nintendo said it tripled sales YoY.

Do we have anything to base Microsofts numbers on?

We know how well it sold in May (77k.) We have multiple people in this thread claiming it doubled up on May sales. All we know is n > 154.

 

[aspiegamer]

You can cross out the TV show as of today too.

That's a sad matter though, particularly regarding the jobs lost.

 

[AniHawk]

Wasn't PSP at around 9.1Million in the US by the end of March 2007? That was around 2 years since it launched in the US. Vita came out about 2 years ago too right? 3DS reached 11.5Million in January this year. I wonder where Vita is.

vita's around 1.8m in the us.

 

[Bgamer90]

If the numbers being tossed around are accurate, I might be forced into retirement from predictions. The game has passed me by.

The Wii U doing 140K completely messed things up for me. Think it was a bad month for everyone (haha).

 

[Orthogonal]

Wow, if these numbers pan out, all three consoles blew my predictions out of the water. Glad to see them all on the upside.

 

[javac]

vita's around 1.8m in the us.

...oh. :/

 

[prwxv3]

They certainly aren't really good in a vacuum.

The good numbers this month mean jack if it goes back to what it was doing before next month.

 

[Elios83]

I thought Microsoft only said it doubled sales MoM. We got no Microsoft numbers last month. Nintendo said it tripled sales YoY.

Do we have anything to base Microsofts numbers on?

We know the Wii U raw number (140k) thanks to Nintendo's YOY growth statment and the relative percentages for the three platforms through the graph, nothing else is needed.

 

[Suzushiiro]

Not gonna lie, it's weird having an NPD thread without half the posts going "console sales are slightly lower than they were at the equivalent point in last cycle OMG CONSOLE GAMING IS DOOMED nevermind the fact that we're still at record high LTD sales."

 

[InsaneTiger]

I find the lack of actual numbers maddening.

 

[rekameohs]

So are the Nintendo numbers really good or just good for Wii U? It honestly seems low to me, especially in the month where Nintendo releases what has become their biggest IP. Hard to imagine Smash Bros or even Zelda doing more for the console than Mario Kart can. I guess it's all about sustainability. Will be interesting to see how it does the next couple of months.

It's decent, though obviously not really "good". Mario Kart usually has fantastic legs, so we'll have to see what the drop is over the next couple of months.

 

[benji232]

So cream already disapeared? Dang, that was quick, we usually get a bit more leaks from him.

 

[Kiote]

We know how well it sold in May (77k.) We have multiple people in this thread claiming it doubled up on May sales. All we know is n > 154.

Where'd that number come from? I thought we never found out what it did in May.

 

[phanphare]

Well Minecraft is higher than UFC in the overall list, but UFC PS4 must be > Minecraft 360 for that Sony statement to be true.

oh yeah never mind

I was only speaking towards MK 8 > PS4 WD

 

[gtj1092]

The assertion that people should be buying x1's and are settling for ps4s is so annoying. If people just didn't want xb1 they wouldn't automatically buy ps4s. Why is it surprising the system with the best price that is more powerful and has the most games is selling the best.

 

[BananaSprinkles]

Where'd that number come from? I thought we never found out what it did in May.

The same place almost all of the other numbers come from.

 

[ascii42]

Well Minecraft is higher than UFC in the overall list, but UFC PS4 must be > Minecraft 360 for that Sony statement to be true.

Sony's statement specifies "next-gen", so Minecraft 360's position doesn't matter.

 

[prwxv3]

or as i would like to call it, an omen.

I still can't believe Nintendo tried to get them back initially with the WiiU. Glad that they learned that was a fools errand.

 

[AniHawk]

...oh. :/

little bit higher than that. about 1.85m, give or take a few thousand.

 

[travisbickle]

what i got

From that, I hesitate to think they're PS and MS console family numbers, they're both above predictions.

 

[Canis lupus]

260-270k for PS4? wow