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NPD Sales Results for September 2015 [Up2: Nintendo Numbers]
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I get what you mean, the truth is there are so many variables now that can result in an increase or decline in sales over the next few years. But for me, unless we see a significant decline in sales and PSVR not being successful and just another gimmick, I'm gonna keep my prediction of 120 million PS4's sold before it is discontinued. Also, I think 2017 will be bigger than 2015 sales wise because we might see a Slim revision next year or in 2017, so that will probably increase sales quite a bit.
regarding when a console peaks, doesn't software determine that?
does that imply that PS4 seeing a strong decline by 2017 means there won't be key software to spur sales from that point on and that in Q4 2016 at the latest, all main software people want for it be already be released with everything else being gravy?
honest question, I'm curious.
does that imply that PS4 seeing a strong decline by 2017 means there won't be key software to spur sales from that point on and that in Q4 2016 at the latest, all main software people want for it be already be released with everything else being gravy?
honest question, I'm curious.
Another fact which i didn't mention is the decline of the main multiplatform games.
As we know, games like Battlefield, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, FIFA, and others games which were very huge last gen, are in decline. And i think this drop of those main series of last gen will hurt PS4 and XB1 sales... for example, i really can't see COD so strong in 2017 / 2018.
It will still sell millions and millions, but not as much as now.
But like i said, we will see. All is possible.
As we know, games like Battlefield, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, FIFA, and others games which were very huge last gen, are in decline. And i think this drop of those main series of last gen will hurt PS4 and XB1 sales... for example, i really can't see COD so strong in 2017 / 2018.
It will still sell millions and millions, but not as much as now.
But like i said, we will see. All is possible.
The price needs to be right. If it plus the system ends up being $600 or more then I just can't see it taking off with the mainstream audience.
Every gen there are popular series from the previous gen that start to fade away and be replaced. I definitely think that Destiny and Titanfall will be series that are looked back upon near the end of this current gen in a similar way that people looked back at COD last gen.
Every gen there are popular series from the previous gen that start to fade away and be replaced. I definitely think that Destiny and Titanfall will be series that are looked back upon near the end of this current gen in a similar way that people looked back at COD last gen.
True. But i don't think will happen. As we know, games like AC, FIFA, and COD, are continued to increase years after years.
AC peaked in 2012, FIFA peaked in 2012, and COD in 2011. ( at least launch, dunno about LT sales).
I don't think will happen again. Titanfall 2 will probabily sell more than Titanfall, but only because the PS4 version. The game is death in the others platform, and i don't think will be bigger on XBOX. Maybe, just maybe, a bit bigger, but only because XB1 will be at >20 million userbase compared to the < 5 million of March 2014, and who will buy Titanfall already has a XB1.
Destiny, and Watch Dogs... eh, i don't know. The lauch of those games was pretty strong.
Destiny sold 6.3 million worldwide in September 2014, nearly 3 million only in the US, and Watch Dogs around 4 million first week.
After many bad reviews, and the huge hype of the launch... i think those games have already peaked.
AC peaked in 2012, FIFA peaked in 2012, and COD in 2011. ( at least launch, dunno about LT sales).
I don't think will happen again. Titanfall 2 will probabily sell more than Titanfall, but only because the PS4 version. The game is death in the others platform, and i don't think will be bigger on XBOX. Maybe, just maybe, a bit bigger, but only because XB1 will be at >20 million userbase compared to the < 5 million of March 2014, and who will buy Titanfall already has a XB1.
Destiny, and Watch Dogs... eh, i don't know. The lauch of those games was pretty strong.
Destiny sold 6.3 million worldwide in September 2014, nearly 3 million only in the US, and Watch Dogs around 4 million first week.
After many bad reviews, and the huge hype of the launch... i think those games have already peaked.
Amazon monthly has updated after more than a week without a refresh.
October NPD is going to be Mightily Interesting (tm), whichever way it ends up going imo
#23: XB1 Halo 5 Bundle
#25: PS4 UC Collection Bundle
#28: PS4 Battlefront LE bundle - November
#38: PS4 TLOU Bundle
#46: PS4 TTK Bundle
#51: PS4 COD Bundle - November
#99: XB1 GeoW Bundle
Looks like the 5 days the XB1 took the top spot (on the hourly) pushed it ahead, but it has been over since Sunday now.
Interesting indeed ...
October NPD is going to be Mightily Interesting (tm), whichever way it ends up going imo
#23: XB1 Halo 5 Bundle
#25: PS4 UC Collection Bundle
#28: PS4 Battlefront LE bundle - November
#38: PS4 TLOU Bundle
#46: PS4 TTK Bundle
#51: PS4 COD Bundle - November
#99: XB1 GeoW Bundle
Looks like the 5 days the XB1 took the top spot (on the hourly) pushed it ahead, but it has been over since Sunday now.
Interesting indeed ...
i think the mistake is assuming that 'casuals' are people who like any sort of 'gimmick'
instead of considering the past success of the ds, wii, and kinect based on 'gimmicks', instead consider the ease of use and affordability. a casual gamer is someone who simply plays a video game when they're bored or maybe a couple of times a year with a friend. they're not the traditional enthusiast market or the mainstream market, generally. if something is quick to understand, and relatively inexpensive, then it's probably worth checking out. a dance game, a fitness game, a sports game, or a brain training game could all fit into those molds. with mobile, you don't even need to have to buy the console or individual physical copies of software - you can just have those experiences on a device you already own.
the ps vr may retail for $199.99. by the time it's out, sony may be able to bundle it with the ps3 for $499.99. is that a low enough price for a mass market? is it enough of an impulse buy like the kinect, wii, or ds in the last decade? part of it will be software too - what experiences are there that will make it more than a one-off novelty like the 3ds? can people who play games mostly on mobile devices be able to comprehend the dual shock layout?
i think sony's better chance at improving late ps4 sales will be revisions of the ps4 itself, maybe in the new 3ds sense too. as it stands i feel like ps vr is going to more or less be sony's sega cd, which is an important step forward into making this a big part of dedicated gaming. it needs to be the focus of the console though, where software is developed specifically for it from major studios.
instead of considering the past success of the ds, wii, and kinect based on 'gimmicks', instead consider the ease of use and affordability. a casual gamer is someone who simply plays a video game when they're bored or maybe a couple of times a year with a friend. they're not the traditional enthusiast market or the mainstream market, generally. if something is quick to understand, and relatively inexpensive, then it's probably worth checking out. a dance game, a fitness game, a sports game, or a brain training game could all fit into those molds. with mobile, you don't even need to have to buy the console or individual physical copies of software - you can just have those experiences on a device you already own.
the ps vr may retail for $199.99. by the time it's out, sony may be able to bundle it with the ps3 for $499.99. is that a low enough price for a mass market? is it enough of an impulse buy like the kinect, wii, or ds in the last decade? part of it will be software too - what experiences are there that will make it more than a one-off novelty like the 3ds? can people who play games mostly on mobile devices be able to comprehend the dual shock layout?
i think sony's better chance at improving late ps4 sales will be revisions of the ps4 itself, maybe in the new 3ds sense too. as it stands i feel like ps vr is going to more or less be sony's sega cd, which is an important step forward into making this a big part of dedicated gaming. it needs to be the focus of the console though, where software is developed specifically for it from major studios.
I am very curious to see what sort of effect the other big FPSes releasing this year have on Halo's population. Will it be a short decrease on their release or will the numbers slowly bleed out never to return? I suppose the drip feed of new content 343i is planning might help bring players back into the fold following other big releases but I doubt seriously that Halo will weather this storm of Black Ops and Battlefront without any population impact.
That said, XB1 will probably edge it out this month. The win will likely be tight (less than 50k) considering the sales gap last holiday but it will be a win. Despite, in all likelihood, selling less systems on release than previous entries Halo certainly seems to have pulled it weight in the hardware sales department. I will admit that it far exceeded my expectations. I definitely underestimated the continued strength of the Halo brand in the states. Clearly the recent debacles with the franchise have done much less to diminish the fervor that fans have for the series than I personally felt it had. I suppose my impressions could still end up being true if the game proves to have the shorter legs of its predecessor but, for whatever reason, that seems unlikely to me at this point.
That said, XB1 will probably edge it out this month. The win will likely be tight (less than 50k) considering the sales gap last holiday but it will be a win. Despite, in all likelihood, selling less systems on release than previous entries Halo certainly seems to have pulled it weight in the hardware sales department. I will admit that it far exceeded my expectations. I definitely underestimated the continued strength of the Halo brand in the states. Clearly the recent debacles with the franchise have done much less to diminish the fervor that fans have for the series than I personally felt it had. I suppose my impressions could still end up being true if the game proves to have the shorter legs of its predecessor but, for whatever reason, that seems unlikely to me at this point.
I say XBO will win with at least 100K difference (October NPD). Halo 5 is just too big and I doubt a $50 price cut is gonna increase the sales of PS4 that much. Plus many people will wait for the good PS4 bundles (SWBF bundles).
He probably doesn't know MS will cut the price by $50 this Holiday, so yeah MS will win and it won't be close.
He probably doesn't know MS will cut the price by $50 this Holiday, so yeah MS will win and it won't be close.
Amazon monthly has updated after more than a week without a refresh.
October NPD is going to be Mightily Interesting (tm), whichever way it ends up going imo
#23: XB1 Halo 5 Bundle
#25: PS4 UC Collection Bundle
#28: PS4 Battlefront LE bundle - November
#38: PS4 TLOU Bundle
#46: PS4 TTK Bundle
#51: PS4 COD Bundle - November
#99: XB1 GeoW Bundle
Looks like the 5 days the XB1 took the top spot (on the hourly) pushed it ahead, but it has been over since Sunday now.
Interesting indeed ...
October NPD is going to be Mightily Interesting (tm), whichever way it ends up going imo
#23: XB1 Halo 5 Bundle
#25: PS4 UC Collection Bundle
#28: PS4 Battlefront LE bundle - November
#38: PS4 TLOU Bundle
#46: PS4 TTK Bundle
#51: PS4 COD Bundle - November
#99: XB1 GeoW Bundle
Looks like the 5 days the XB1 took the top spot (on the hourly) pushed it ahead, but it has been over since Sunday now.
Interesting indeed ...
In the next monthly update the uncharted bundle will be ahead of the Halo bundle. Also two there are two more bundles in the top 100 for PS4. I think the desicion to not make a 350 dollars halo bundle hurt MS in the long run. I still think Sony takes the month but it will interesting to see if MS does indeed drop the price if Sony will just simply introduce a 300 vanilla PS4 to counter.
The hourly has been something like this for the past 24 hours:
#10 PS4 UC Bundle
#21 XB1 Halo 5 Bundle
#22 PS4 LE Star Wars Bundle
#23 PS4 LE Call of Duty Bundle
#58 PS4 Star Wars Bundle
#61 XB1 Gears of War Bundle
#69 XB1 Madden Bundle
#73 XB1 Forza 6 Bundle
#86 PS4 Non-Bundle (wtf?)
Out of those only the UC Bundle counts for PS4 for October. It's gonna be very close imo.
As far as November, I only see those Star Wars bundles and even that CoD bundle just selling at insane rates the closer we get to their respective release dates. Xbox would need a price cut to compete imo.
#10 PS4 UC Bundle
#21 XB1 Halo 5 Bundle
#22 PS4 LE Star Wars Bundle
#23 PS4 LE Call of Duty Bundle
#58 PS4 Star Wars Bundle
#61 XB1 Gears of War Bundle
#69 XB1 Madden Bundle
#73 XB1 Forza 6 Bundle
#86 PS4 Non-Bundle (wtf?)
Out of those only the UC Bundle counts for PS4 for October. It's gonna be very close imo.
As far as November, I only see those Star Wars bundles and even that CoD bundle just selling at insane rates the closer we get to their respective release dates. Xbox would need a price cut to compete imo.