Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660. New under $250 GPU king.

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm fine with going with more conservative estimates. I'm also cool with the fact you are expecting consoles to be more powerful than a Vega 64.

Going by "just wait for Polaris" and "just wait for Vega"...I'm cool with the $500 12TF "Anaconda" rumor.
PS5 also has rumours of it being 14TF.
But they’re all still just rumours.
 
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PS5 also has rumours of it being 14TF.
But they’re all still just rumours.
So...do you, or do you not have any hard evidence for your claims?

Here's my feeling. Next-gen will be less about resolution wars, and Sony has shown an affinity for Checkerboard. The visual difference between a $400 and a $500 console might be dick for all we know. We'll find out soon enough.

I'm hoping for the 1080p 4TF Xbox "Lockhart" rumors to be true. Rather have 2 of those than 1 4k system. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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which is an overclocked 580 which is an overclocked 480.
Vega 56 is there at about 300 Euros, bundled with games, 2Gb extra memory and 5-10% faster than 1660Ti.
570 is there with twice as much perf as competitor.

Perf/$ wise both 580/570 still ahead:



Notable that 1660 have NOT improved perf/$ of 1060

I just bought a 580 last month
Which model was it?
 
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Notable that 1660 have NOT improved perf/$ of 1060
Nice try cherry picking the most expensive 1660.
1660 is both faster and cheaper than 1060 6 GB at launch, it obviously has improved perf/$.



And yes, the 570 is above(and the 580 above the 1060). That's because you can get those things for $140-$180, but look at the poor 590, desperately in need of a drastic price cut.
 

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Gotta love how easy misinformation is spread, what's sad is that some people will believe it even when the facts are presented right in front of them.
 
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Can anyone recommend a Gpu for 4k 60fps at console settings, i don't mind dropping down to 1440p now and again. Thinking of getting a i5 8400 and then upgrade Gpu after new consoles are out.
 
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Can anyone recommend a Gpu for 4k 60fps at console settings, i don't mind dropping down to 1440p now and again. Thinking of getting a i5 8400 and then upgrade Gpu after new consoles are out.
I'd say vega 64(56 if you're lucky on a bios flash) or 2070. The 2060 would work for most games but could possibly choke due to the 6gb of vram on some games.

You could also always get the R7 or 2080. That's more strain on the wallet, tho. Although those are almost guaranteed 60 fps at console settings.
 
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You stated I was cherry picking.
Exactly what is so special about MSI's board?
It's $30 over MSRP, killing it's perf/$ value.
You'd have to be a fool to not understand this. 1660 at MSRP is a better value than 1060.

Putting you on ignore now so don't bother responding, but I hope you will one day understand this simple explanation.
 
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Good thing Intel is getting in the GPU market, maybe they can actually compete against Nvidia :lollipop_smiling_face_eyes:
Wait, the highest priced CPU manufacturer is all of the sudden going to have economical GPU prices? I would put my money more on them price fixing the market together, if AMD were out of the picture (which they won't be, thankfully).
 
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RX 590 vs 1660

RX 580 vs 1660


RX 590 can be had for $219 with three games right now......RX 580 can be had with two games at $189
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...on=rx 590&cm_re=rx_590-_-14-202-327-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...on=rx 580&cm_re=rx_580-_-14-150-794-_-Product


Now 1660 is based on new turing architecture, whilst the 580/590 are based on Polaris arch that has been there for a few years and even had a sucessor after....Yet the AMD card's performance in current DX12 titles is ridiculous, it's clocks are definitely not as high as Turing either.......That 1650 will be a turd of a card by all indications.....There's no way the 1660 seperates itself in the future when more vulkan and dx12 titles surface, especially not with 2 less GB of Vram...It will be even worse with the 1650 vs RX 580 8GB .....Hell, the RX 570 may beat the 1650 in many titles...
 
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Now 1660 is based on new turing architecture, whilst the 580/590 are based on Polaris arch that has been there for a few years and even had a sucessor after....Yet the AMD card's performance in current DX12 titles is ridiculous, it's clocks are definitely not as high as Turing either.......That 1650 will be a turd of a card by all indications.....There's no way the 1660 seperates itself in the future when more vulkan and dx12 titles surface, especially not with 2 less GB of Vram...It will be even worse with the 1650 vs RX 580 8GB .....Hell, the RX 570 may beat the 1650 in many titles...
The one problem I have with AMD cards is that I often read about incompatibilities, how some games don't work properly, atc. with Nvidia cards I have less stress whether the game will work properly, so I would rather pay a bit more and have a peace of mind.
 
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I got a 970, would you recommend this as a proper upgrade or just get 2070?
1660 / 1660 Ti for 1080p/60fps, 2070 for 1440p/60fps or 1080p/120-144fps

Note that some 1660 models can be easily overclocked to Ti levels if you are comfortable with that. If you are rocking 1080p/60fps a RTX 2070 would obviously be faster than 1160 / 1160 Ti and thus last longer, but RTX stuff is brand new and no-one knows how commonly its features are going to be used in the future, even if it takes off the first generation of RTX line might get stomped over surprisingly quickly by the next generation.

Edit: typos galore.
 
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7nm is around the corner, early 2020 the latest, so those with patience should better wait.

And for "but you can always wait" argument: the next node will be 5nm and 3nm. AMD estimates transition to those node to happen in 5 year (!!!) cadence.
So "wait for 5nm" would be a multi-year experience.

Meanwhile ray tracing dust would settle and we'd see if dedicated hardware is worth it or not.

RX 580 = overclocked RX 480
There was actually a bump in the process. (14nm+ would be the honest name, they called it 12nm)
 
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