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Great analysis, I enjoyed his comments and overall conclusion.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7UngOXmgAP0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7UngOXmgAP0
NX Gamer - Dark Souls 2: Head 2 Head PS4 XboxOne with Full Frame-rate analysis
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True, and even though Bloodborne is basically a spiritual successor to the series, it shouldn't be compared, at least not as much as he did, but I think the takeaway is that Bloodborne plays well at 30fps and answers a lot of the debated: Should X game be 30fps or 60fps with lesser visuals. In the end I think it works well with his analysis.
Stallion Free
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"If you have a PS4 you should just buy Bloodborne."
Journey
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Lol, good one! If you have a PS4 and you don't have Bloodborne yet, then you're doing it wrong
Takeaways - Dark Souls 2 does a lot better than the DMC conversion, aka DS2 is clearly not just an uprezzed port. Overall good port that pretty much holds the 1080p 60fps holy grail throughout despite the upgrades in enemy count and texture work. Does a lot of Bloodborne mentioning and praise for it's engine, and uses it as contrast to DS2 and to highlight the difference when working from the ground up with next gen in mind, but also gives credit to DS2's beauty which shouldn't be overlooked.
Methos#1975
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I want to see how the console versions stack up to the PC version, that is what is important too me
I haven't really watched NXGamer's videos before, but I'm kind of baffled that people praise him as being less biased and more informative than Digital Foundry when he's excluding highly relevant information like frame-time in favor of a big 'ol framerate number.
There's also something wrong with his methodology if his Bloodborne footage is showing the game as just running above 30. If you show them as just framerate, they should manifest as the rate briefly zinging above 30 then dropping below it.
There's also something wrong with his methodology if his Bloodborne footage is showing the game as just running above 30. If you show them as just framerate, they should manifest as the rate briefly zinging above 30 then dropping below it.
This guy's analysis is growing on me.
Too much talk about Bloodborne though. I think its obvious that a game ground up for PS4 at 30fps is going to look tons better than a cross gen port like DK2 at 60fps, even a port of the PC version.
Too much talk about Bloodborne though. I think its obvious that a game ground up for PS4 at 30fps is going to look tons better than a cross gen port like DK2 at 60fps, even a port of the PC version.
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Lol, good one! If you have a PS4 and you don't have Bloodborne yet, then you're doing it wrong
No, he literally says that in the video conclusion. That was not sarcasm or a dig at DKS2.
Journey
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Missed that. Pretty silly thing to say in a performance analysis of a completely different game. Dark Souls 2 is definitely worth checking out even if you do play BB first.
Backfoggen
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People looked for someone to confirm their own views/hopes and found him.
He say's in the video that he is only doing 1 video for this so mentioned gameplay and the ref with if you have PS4 then BB is the better game, should be kept in a separate video though as said.
I have seen this kind of comment before on his videos, what exactly is he "confirming" and for who exactly?
Apparently, some of us like NXGamer's analysis because "he says what we like to hear". Based on the games NXGamer really focuses on, I think you know who "we" is referring to.
Tip: His Uncharted 4 video was heavily criticized, although I have to admit there were a few inaccuracies.
boredandlazy
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And the people who say that probably like Digital Foundry videos for that exact same reason.
Back on topic though, I enjoy watching his videos as an alternative to Digital Foundry but for some reason I find his enthusiasm a little grating sometimes.
Pretty much. Aside from John's articles on DF, most of the other articles contain too little information about graphical features and may sometimes come off as biased (Evolve DF Face Off, anyone?) and venture into next gen gameplay for no reason.And the people who say that probably like Digital Foundry videos for that exact same reason.
Back on topic though, I enjoy watching his videos as an alternative to Digital Foundry but for some reason I find his enthusiasm a little grating sometimes.
And I agree. NXGamer has to curb his enthusiasm sometimes. It's what got him criticized in his Uncharted 4 video.
perineumlick
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Can you read what you wrote and not cringe?
Tidus_Great
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i watched the video and noticed the ps4 version drop to 59.85 FPS while the xbone version maintains a crisp sleek 60 FPS. I'm unsure of which version to go with now :/
i watched the video and noticed the ps4 version drop to 59.85 FPS while the xbone version maintains a crisp sleek 60 FPS. I'm unsure of which version to go with now :/
lol
JigglesBunny
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i watched the video and noticed the ps4 version drop to 59.85 FPS while the xbone version maintains a crisp sleek 60 FPS. I'm unsure of which version to go with now :/
I laughed.
Hard.
Catatafish
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i watched the video and noticed the ps4 version drop to 59.85 FPS while the xbone version maintains a crisp sleek 60 FPS. I'm unsure of which version to go with now :/
got me giggling
i watched the video and noticed the ps4 version drop to 59.85 FPS while the xbone version maintains a crisp sleek 60 FPS. I'm unsure of which version to go with now :/
#dead
Wish he would have been a little more thorough with this one. He didn't find any of the more severe frame drops Digital Foundry found on the XB1 version. Still a decent analysis though, and it's a good example of why it's good to have multiple sources doing it in order to get a broader picture.
goldenpp72
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I don't have the means to watch a video right this minute, which version is the best?
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njean777
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PS4
Both Digital Foundry and NXGamer gave the nod to the PS4 version.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-dark-souls-2-performance-analysis
The PS4 version can have a 10+ fps advantage in some of the more demanding scenes. The XB1 version also has some significant frame drops into the lower 30's.
Collateral22
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Putting it into context and to elaborate further, in DF's test run, they found 1 instance where the framerate dropped to 36fps, this was after a boss battle, didn't happen during the battle, but right after when a batch of floating souls appeared. An achievement also popped up at that point and it was assumened that the achievement caused the dip, but DF ran the test again during the same scene while already having the achievement, and the 2nd time it dropped again even without the achievement pop-up, thus confirming it was due to the batch of souls. DF quickly upadted their article with this finding.
From the video, just like NX Gamer's video, the game seems to run merily in the 50s and even 60 in open areas, but runs 50s most of the time with the heavier scenes like in the Forest of the Fallen Giants where a barrage of enemies caused the bone to drop down between the 40s - 50s. The PS4 is much more consistant and is able to maintain the 60fps a lot longer, but can also drop to as low as 48fps, and in the same scene of the Forest of Fallen Giants was doing 50s - 60s vs 40s - 50s means an avg. of 10fps better.
Just wanted to clarify that for anyone who can't watch the videos. DF is endeed much more thourough with their analysis finding scenes with these low dips whereas NX Gamer did not find any of these from what I can tell, but I still think it's useful to have someone else doing these for contrast, and I also enjoyed NXs commentary.
EightBitNate
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Sounds like NeoGAF
3rdamention
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Kenzodielocke
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So Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne share the same engine ?
Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Dark Souls II, and Bloodborne are all on Sony's Phyre engine. Bloodborne and Dark Souls II both seem to be forks of the version used for Dark Souls.
OdysseusVA
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Some are desperate for an alternative to DF that they'll latch on to the first thing that comes along.
serversurfer
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The PS4 version is better, so get Bloodborne. lol
It's a fact. Edge just gave it 10/10 as well. I doubt I'll play a better game this year.
Thanks for a nice summary. Still unsure just how bad the X1 version is, and with no other system still unsure if I'll grab it. I loved demons souls and skipped dark souls 1. Stil unsure :/
FairXchange
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i watched the video and noticed the ps4 version drop to 59.85 FPS while the xbone version maintains a crisp sleek 60 FPS. I'm unsure of which version to go with now :/
The Xbox One version drops frames more often, and with more severe drops. It's not actually a hard choice.
His methods tend to get different results from DF. I know for some games DF seems more reflective of my own experience but others NXG seems more reflective. I assume it's just some of the general variance that can happen while playing since it's not the same person doing both. I know DF also tends to go more for stress testing when investigating framerate.
Quite amazing how this false information continues to self propagate. It's not even on Wikipedia anymore.
