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NYT: In One Rocky Week, Trump’s Self-Inflicted Chaos on Vivid Display

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HotHamBoy

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/18/us/politics/trump-controversies-chaos.html

I feel like this piece is a good round-up for those that haven't been paying too close attention.

WASHINGTON — Minutes before President Trump was to take the stage in Nashville last week to make his case for the health care overhaul he had promised, he received some unwelcome news that shifted his script.

A Federal District Court judge in Hawaii had just placed another stay on his ban on travelers from six predominantly Muslim countries, dealing his order a second legal setback in two months. As a country music duo crooned in an auditorium still filling with adoring supporters of Mr. Trump, the president fumed backstage and huddled with his staff for a hasty redrafting of the speech.

When Mr. Trump emerged, he decided to relegate the health care overhaul, which he has identified as a top domestic priority, to a brief mention more than halfway through the speech. He instead replaced its prime billing with an angry diatribe against the travel ban ruling and the judge who had issued it.

“I have to be nice, otherwise I’ll get criticized for speaking poorly about our courts,” he said. But he could not help himself: The president soon suggested that the court that had just ruled against him should be destroyed. “People are screaming, ‘Break up the Ninth Circuit!’ ”

Once again, Mr. Trump’s agenda was subsumed by problems of his own making, his message undercut by a seemingly endless stream of controversy he cannot seem to stop himself from feeding.

The health care measure appears on track for a House vote this week, and the president, who planned a weekend of relaxation at Mar-a-Lago, his Palm Beach, Fla., club, is likely to receive a large measure of the credit. But it has also become clear that Mr. Trump, an agitator incapable of responding proportionately to any slight, appears hellbent on squandering his honeymoon.

Instead, he has sowed chaos in his own West Wing, and talked or tweeted his way into trouble, over and over again.

That was never more apparent than over the last week, when fresh questions about his refusal to release his tax returns and the blocking of his executive order sapped the spotlight from his efforts to build support for the health measure and even the unveiling of his first budget.

Even more self-lacerating: his insistence that President Barack Obama had authorized surveillance on his 2016 campaign, a claim that continued unabated despite rebukes from Republicans, denials by the congressional intelligence committees and complaints from the British government, which demanded an apology after Mr. Trump’s spokesman suggested that one of its intelligence agencies had aided in the spying.

“It’s a pattern with him — he sometimes counterpunches so hard he hits himself,” said Ari Fleischer, who served as White House press secretary for George W. Bush.

The public outbursts are mirrored by internal tensions. With the embers of the old rivalry extinguished between his chief strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, and chief of staff, Reince Priebus, a new realignment has emerged in a West Wing already rived by suspicion and intrigue.

Gary Cohn, the former Goldman Sachs executive who serves as the president’s top economic policy adviser and who is decidedly more liberal than the rest of Mr. Trump’s inner circle, is on the rise, and has the ear of the president’s powerful son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Mr. Kushner also gained an ally on the National Security Council with the appointment of Dina Powell, a Republican and another former Goldman official who worked with Mr. Cohn, as a deputy for strategy.

In the newness of the administration, the constant need to tend to internal dynamics has been a distraction. The aides have watched each other warily and tried tending to the president’s base of supporters amid a sea of appointments of people who worked on Wall Street.

Mr. Trump is not bothered by turf battles in his administration. He believes they foster competition and keep any one aide from accumulating too much power. He is even more enthusiastic about waging war publicly, believing that it fires up his white working-class base.

Indeed, in Nashville on Wednesday night, Mr. Trump spoke to a rapturous crowd of almost 10,000 people and his embattled spokesman, Sean Spicer, was greeted as a star by awe-struck supporters, who spent several minutes crowding around him to take pictures and pat him on the back.

But in Washington, some Republican lawmakers and officials have watched in dismay and frustration, they say privately, because the president they are looking to for cover and salesmanship of the health care overhaul keeps getting sidetracked.

One of those diversions came after the judge’s ruling on the travel ban. In Nashville, the president said he would prefer to go back to his first, more restrictive ban and pursue it to the Supreme Court. “That’s what I wanted to do in the first place,” Mr. Trump said, a statement that seems destined to be used against his own lawyers in upcoming court cases on the executive order.

For Mr. Trump, this was supposed to be a week of pivoting and message discipline. The president read from a script during public appearances and posted on Twitter less often. He invited lawmakers from both parties to the White House for strategy sessions on the health measure. He scheduled policy speeches, like one near Detroit, where he announced that he was halting fuel economy standards imposed by Mr. Obama, and the rally in Nashville, where he visited the grave of Andrew Jackson, the populist patron selected by his history-minded political impresario, Mr. Bannon, as Mr. Trump’s presidential analog.

But by Friday, as Mr. Trump worked to call attention to his powers of persuasion in securing commitments from a dozen wavering Republicans to back the health measure, the White House was left frantically trying to explain why Mr. Spicer had repeated allegations that the Government Communications Headquarters, the British spy agency, had helped to eavesdrop on the president during the campaign.

Rather than expressing regret for a slight of one of the United States’ strongest allies, Mr. Trump was unapologetic.

“We said nothing,” he said at a news conference with Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany. “All we did was quote a certain very talented legal mind who was the one responsible for saying that on television,” he added, referring to Andrew Napolitano, the commentator who first leveled the charge about the involvement of the British intelligence service on Fox News.

That did not seem to be enough for the irate British, who had called the charge “nonsense” and “utterly ridiculous.” Shepard Smith, a Fox News anchor, later disavowed it as well, saying his network could not back up Mr. Napolitano’s claims.

The episode left little time for talk of Mr. Trump’s “America First” budget released on Thursday, filled with domestic spending cuts so deep that even his budget director conceded they would be unpopular, or the health care measure that would affect more than 20 percent of the economy.

“This White House is on two tracks,” Mr. Fleischer said. “The legislative one, which has been surprisingly and pleasantly productive, and the other one full of self-induced error.”

The problem for Mr. Trump, he added, is that the self-destructive behavior, if it continues, threatens to overshadow everything else.

“He has a tremendous number of ingredients at his disposal to be a very successful president,” Mr. Fleischer added, “but he might not even get credit for it if he is so red-hot controversial.”
 

CHC

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Read this earlier. The last line to me is just genuinely sad.

Like, putting aside the fact that he is absolutely destroying the integrity of the office, the president has the power to be such a positive force. And instead we're forced to follow all of these banal, time-wasting hissy fits and petty battles. It's really so, so pathetic - and I mean that in the most literal sense of the word.
 

HotHamBoy

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Read this earlier. The last line to me is just genuinely sad.

Like, putting aside the fact that he is absolutely destroying the integrity of the office, the president has the power to be such a positive force. And instead we're forced to follow all of these banal, time-wasting hissy fits and petty battles. It's really so, so pathetic - and I mean that in the most literal sense of the word.

Self-serving, egomaniacal business man is self-serving, egomaniacal president.
 

Quixzlizx

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Read this earlier. The last line to me is just genuinely sad.

Like, putting aside the fact that he is absolutely destroying the integrity of the office, the president has the power to be such a positive force. And instead we're forced to follow all of these banal, time-wasting hissy fits and petty battles. It's really so, so pathetic - and I mean that in the most literal sense of the word.

The more time-wasting hissy fits and petty battles, the better. It's not like it'd be a good thing if he accomplished something.
 

sc0la

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“This White House is on two tracks,” Mr. Fleischer said. “The legislative one, which has been surprisingly and pleasantly productive, and the other one full of self-induced error.”

He has had almost no meaningful legislative victories to date. What is this bullshit? Rolling back coal restrictions and the stream protection rule? Renaming VA facilities that counts as "pleasantly productive?"
 

jelly

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At this point I'm glad he isn't getting much done. If they can't impeach then it's the best we can hope for.
 
What? his legislative ability is horrendous even if you are conservative. He doesn't have a single major piece of legislation that looks like it can pass
 

RPGCrazied

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Its been one disaster after another. Why Republicans want to stick with this guy is hilarious. I hope 2018 is so damning they have no choice but to drop him.
 

IrishNinja

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i mean, one one hand, the cowardly GOP are racing to push all their failed ideas over the last few decades & are clearly willing to turn a blind eye to just about anything - russian ties included - to get that done

so the idea that they're not seeing as much progress as quickly as they like because they're abiding a man-baby is....well, let's go with "hard to sympathize with" here

What? his legislative ability is horrendous even if you are conservative. He doesn't have a single major piece of legislation that looks like it can pass

yeah i was also wondering about this - he's certainly done damage to a number of branches via his appointees (and made a number of narrow minded conservatives happy there, i imagine) but i'm not seeing these great legislative accomplishments
 

aeolist

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He has had almost no meaningful legislative victories to date. What is this bullshit? Rolling back coal restrictions and the stream protection rule? Renaming VA facilities that counts as "pleasantly productive?"

it's ari fleischer

the man is scum
 

Loxley

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And this is how he's going to be for as long as he's President. The man is 70 years old - he won't change, he won't "become Presidential", he'll always be the thin-skinned man-child we know him to be.

He's his own worst enemy, and will continue to sabotage himself and embarrass this country for the next four years.
 
He has had almost no meaningful legislative victories to date. What is this bullshit? Rolling back coal restrictions and the stream protection rule? Renaming VA facilities that counts as "pleasantly productive?"

Yea I read this and I was like what?
 

Stinkles

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And this is how he's going to be for as long as he's President. The man is 70 years old - he won't change, he won't "become Presidential", he'll always be the thin-skinned man-child we know him to be.

He's his own worst enemy, and will continue to sabotage himself and embarrass this country for the next four years.


He's actually showing signs of increased erraticism and megalomania.

My original thesis was that he was a lazy fuckup who just wanted more viewers and a louder brand.

Then he won.

So my next thesis was that he was a lazy fuckup that would sit back and let conservatives do everything and anything that they wanted. What I really didn't consider was that his inner circle would do the mad but targeted bullshit, and that his reactive personality disorders would be expressed nonstop in incredibly damaging ways, with frightening frequency and density.

So the only thing that is now certain, is that trump's presidency will be remembered as one of the blackest marks in our nation's history because:

A) He "succeeds" and does this shit for four, even eight years.
B) He goes so far that even the Republicans have to do something about it - he's already highly impeachable - he doesn't have to do anything worse (but he definitely will)
C) A reverse wave happens in the next election.
D) He dies of well done steak and whatever drugs he's taking. I suspect he's on some weird combo of stuff.
E) He is actually proven to be a "proper" traitor and prosecuted without allies.


I sure hope it's E - because frankly the nation NEEDS to self reflect and figure out how it fucked up and how to prevent it in the future. However, the GOP has proven so greedy, craven, venal and - without exaggeration - nakedly EVIL (please gaf republicans, defend this party with some facts, hmmm?) that no affront will be too much for them to stomach.

Last time the bad guys in a global conflict were this clear cut, was WWII.


He's so bad now, that Gaf's Trump supporters no longer try to defend him at all, and instead concentrate their stupid decision by attacking externalities - Hillary, the Intelligence Community, Obama, you name it. Anything except actual defense of Trump and his policies. They're completely out of gas on that. The pivot never came, it was just a carnval pirrouette.
 

entremet

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He's actually showing signs of increased erraticism and megalomania.

My original thesis was that he was a lazy fuckup who just wanted more viewers and a louder brand.

Then he won.

So my next thesis was that he was a lazy fuckup that would sit back and let conservatives do everything and anything that they wanted. What I really didn't consider was that his inner circle would do the mad but targeted bullshit, and that his reactive personality disorders would be expressed nonstop in incredibly damaging ways, with frightening frequency and density.

So the only thing that is now certain, is that trump's presidency will be remembered as one of the blackest marks in our nation's history because:

A) He "succeeds" and does this shit for four, even eight years.
B) He goes so far that even the Republicans have to do something about it - he's already highly impeachable - he doesn't have to do anything worse (but he definitely will)
C) A reverse wave happens in the next election.
D) He dies of well done steak and whatever drugs he's taking. I suspect he's on some weird combo of stuff.
E) He is actually proven to be a "proper" traitor and prosecuted without allies.


I sure hope it's E - because frankly the nation NEEDS to self reflect and figure out how it fucked up and how to prevent it in the future. However, the GOP has proven so greedy, craven, venal and - without exaggeration - nakedly EVIL (please gaf republicans, defend this party with some facts, hmmm?) that no affront will be too much for them to stomach.

Last time the bad guys in a global conflict were this clear cut, was WWII.


He's so bad now, that Gaf's Trump supporters no longer try to defend him at all, and instead concentrate their stupid decision by attacking externalities - Hillary, the Intelligence Community, Obama, you name it. Anything except actual defense of Trump and his policies. They're completely out of gas on that. The pivot never came, it was just a carnval pirrouette.

His body language on election night was clear.
 

Ogodei

Member
It's amazing how you no longer hear that argument anymore. Just give him a chance, he's not even in office yet. Just give him a chance, it's been less than one week. Then, silence.

You still see it, mostly from when they interview "man in the street" voters (who all, for some odd reason, seem to be Trump diehards despite denying that).
 
You still see it, mostly from when they interview "man in the street" voters (who all, for some odd reason, seem to be Trump diehards despite denying that).

I wouldn't be surprised if these voters are also the type that hates Obamacare but supports the ACA [before this joke became popular everywhere].

Well at least now there are failed, bigoted legislations and terrible proposed legislations/bills/budget that anyone can cite as a response.
 

jelly

Member
It's easy to blame. They'll blame it all on the Democrats etc. for pushing back against their plans or something because if they didn't it would be paradise for everyone! I tried to change things but the liberals and the law stopped me. Vote for us next time and I promise you we will take them down! USA! USA!
 
It's amazing how you no longer hear that argument anymore. Just give him a chance, he's not even in office yet. Just give him a chance, it's been less than one week. Then, silence.

Eh, that argument has an inherent shelf life. There's nothing surprising about seeing it less the longer he's in office. He's had a chance, so it's only the most violent partisans who are going to keep suggesting otherwise.
 

Beartruck

Member
There was no honeymoon, basically. Or if it was, it was only the first week, before the first travel ban.
It we were to compare it to a real honeymoon, Trump's administration is the equivalent of getting drunk and punching the bride's father right after the ceremony. We've barely even started and its already off the rails.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
You probably should avoid quoting entire articles.

One of those diversions came after the judge’s ruling on the travel ban. In Nashville, the president said he would prefer to go back to his first, more restrictive ban and pursue it to the Supreme Court. “That’s what I wanted to do in the first place,” Mr. Trump said, a statement that seems destined to be used against his own lawyers in upcoming court cases on the executive order.
I had not heard about this unforced quote. What a moron.
 

RPGCrazied

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Look where the shitstain is again, every damn weekend.

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Maxim726X

Member
Really, Ari. What fucking legislation?

I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe sometimes. What legislation has he, or his party's Congress, gotten through to this point? Their first major crack at actually governing is exploding in their faces.
 
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