NYTimes Journo Melts Down On Joe Rogan's Show

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Imagine being triggered by the most listened to podcast ever. You know the most entertaining audio show on any platform? Now imagine the people who are seeking out attention by being edgy and calling it trash.
To each his own, but it's boring as fuck to me.

It's good if you're the kind of person who thinks Jordan Peterson is interesting.

I had to be subjected to his interview of Mike Tyson recently and the hyperbolic worship coming from him was unbearable. Then he went on about the size of Mike's blunts.

Pretty riveting shit.
 
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Haven't watched the above clip, but I saw a bit of that woman on Rogan and she sounded like a complete moron
She works for the New York Times.

I dunno what to say to that, let me check my twitter feed real quick.
*whips out mobile phone*
They outta start calling them "Idiot" Phones instead of Smart Phones.
 
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You mean like she literally says i will check more and go back to your show ?
OPINION EDITOR OF NY TIMES ?

She totally lost it. She says something with confidence. Rogan asks "why?/is that true ?/how ?" and she totally loses it moving to "idk really, geez "i think"".

And it is not like Rogan asked her hard question. She say Tutsi is "monster" and aksed about why she couldn't even make one fact right.
She was hyperbolic in the beginning but instead of doubling down she admitted she could be wrong and needed to do more research. This is literally the opposite of what Trump does.
 
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The JRE interview was good, can't say that I agree with many things Bari said, but it was interesting nonetheless. I suppose it would have been great if they could have delved deeper into certain things to better understand her positions.
 
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This little snippet that they picked apart is a pretty good example of what's wrong with extremists on the internet.

People like that will just chant the same made-up "facts" over and over again and the second they've left their bubble and are questioned, they realize for the first time that they don't even actually know why they believe the things in the first place. They've just heard everyone else in their bubble chant the opinions/terms/phrases so many times that they assumed it had to be true and continued to parrot them as well because that's what they've done to fit in this whole time.
 
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You mean like she literally says i will check more and go back to your show ?
OPINION EDITOR OF NY TIMES ?

She totally lost it. She says something with confidence. Rogan asks "why?/is that true ?/how ?" and she totally loses it moving to "idk really, geez "i think"".

And it is not like Rogan asked her hard question. She say Tutsi is "monster" and aksed about why she couldn't even make one fact right.
There is your problem. The opinion section of NYT is awful these days, and I say this as someone who actually has a NYT subscription. It's almost like the Guardian's at this point.
 
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Yeah, people like that journalist bother me. People who will spark an outrage without any clear facts, who share extreme opinions as facts, it’s extremely damaging to society. The fact she could issue such horrible statements and not answer a single question about them makes her about as impressive as a cauliflower would be at playing a journalist.
 
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The thing that stood out to me is that she used the phrase "the motherlode of bad ideas," which is how Sam Harris characterized Islam on his infamous Bill Maher appearance with Ben Affleck. While we can debate the geopolitical implications of Islam today, or even the way the faith is practiced by certain communities, Sam was nevertheless using metaphorical hyperbole to advance his brand and preach to his choir. The fact that Bari unironically used it to describe a person symbolizes so much of the viciousness that categorizes political rhetoric today, particularly by the people who are supposed to be fostering these discussions. The fact that she couldn't name a single idea and instead dug through her past associations demonstrates a complete and thoughtless regurgitation of a phrase she's heard before and probably does not herself understand.

Up to now, I had liked Bari for her political culture critiques, but it's clear she's only straddling the fence for credibility, and she really is in line lock-step with the rigid dogma of her colleagues. She began the full podcast by claiming she's a centrist, then later that she's progressive left up and down the line on culture issues, and finally calling for the abolition of the second amendment from the Bill of Rights. I don't necessarily think any of those positions are bad or even extreme, but you can't have it both ways.

This clip is the exemplar of how we institutionally root out dissent from politics. It calls to mind whenever the tribal left goes after it's own like Bernie Sanders, Bill Maher, Joe Rogan, Dave Rubin, or Sam Harris. Despite sharing a common stretch of the political spectrum, the ultra-partisans really don't like these people, but none of them can coherently explain why. These detractors are not ideologues, who genuinely care about government and have thought hard about these issues. They're functionally indistinguishable from telemarketers at a corporate call center, echoing the same pre-scripted talking points. They're the collaborators with socialist police states, turning in their family members to accumulate prestige within their group. They're party people. Company people.

The thing that really scares me about the strange alienation of Tulsi is that it really feeds the growing perception that all of our news is essentially a disinformation campaign from pro-war, pro-intervention corporate media.
 
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I learned about him awhile ago, but now that I've watched a few more of Jimmy Dore's videos, I think he's really on fire. I'm not a progressive on economic issues, but it's so refreshing to have someone opposing the military industrial complex and its tentacles on both sides, including in left-leaning news networks.


Here, he shreds Morning Joe's attempt to abort Tulsi Gabbert's candidacy by claiming she's somehow pro-Assad and pro-Al Qaeda (the truth is that those two are fighting each other, and the US was arming and supporting Al Qaeda in an ill-conceived attempt to overthrow Assad).

Another specific charge - that Russian bots were supporting Tulsi (posted earlier in this thread) - actually comes from the same discredited group that committed Russian-bot fraud in the Alabama election. It's a propaganda smear campaign against people who oppose war.
 
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I had to be subjected to his interview of Mike Tyson recently and the hyperbolic worship coming from him was unbearable. Then he went on about the size of Mike's blunts.

Pretty riveting shit.
Rogan is martial arts enthusiast.
Mike Tyson is by far the best heavy weight boxer to live on this planet.
That is like santa coming to your house in person.

And his interview was fucking interesting to watch because he got SO MUCH detail out of his life.
Especially his early life.

Mike fights etc is all known to everyone especially to Rogan so no reason to talk about them.
 
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I wish people would just write up a bit of what actually happens in the videos they post. There’s much too much 1 video 1 sentence posts on this board.
You wish to not watch video and post in thread as if you watched video ?
The point of this thread is video. If you don't want to watch it then you shouldn't post in this thread until you watch it.
 
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Ok, so I actually can watch it now and was legit left thinking "How was this a melt down"? Complete waste of time 0/10.

I have no clue who Tulsi Gabbard even is and don't care.
 
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Ok, so I actually can watch it now and was legit left thinking "How was this a melt down"? Complete waste of time 0/10.

I have no clue who Tulsi Gabbard even is and don't care.
Easy version:

She's a US Presidential candidate who actually wants to stop getting involved in wars in the Middle East.

She traveled to Syria to see for herself what was going on there, and it was not what most people think it is.

The US has been arming terrorist groups to try to overthrow Syria's government (while dictatorial, most people don't seriously claim that Assad is worse than ISIS if the question is really asked that way).

As a result, so much propaganda was deployed against her that a NYT journalist was completely convinced that she was an Assad toady despite a complete lack of ability to back up that claim.

What does this say about how the government and media insiders control the dialogue, smack down opposition to wars, and control which presidential candidates are treated as deserving a good push?
 
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Easy version:

She's a US Presidential candidate who actually wants to stop getting involved in wars in the Middle East.

She traveled to Syria to see for herself what was going on there, and it was not what most people think it is.

The US has been arming terrorist groups to try to overthrow Syria's government (while dictatorial, most people don't seriously claim that Assad is worse than ISIS if the question is really asked that way).

As a result, so much propaganda was deployed against her that a NYT journalist was completely convinced that she was an Assad toady despite a complete lack of ability to back up that claim.

What does this say about how the government and media insiders control the dialogue, smack down opposition to wars, and control which presidential candidates are treated as deserving a good push?

People talk shit about things they don't know about constantly. Journalists aren't special. I don't read the NYT so this has 0 affect on me.
 
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Kind of a strange alignment in the video.

While I agree that this NY Columnist is not an intellectual giant by any means, it seems to me that she is ultimately concerned that the the left will adopt far left policies in response to Trump's rhetoric (As his policies aren't all that crazy right).

Its a valid concern of mine as well.