Obama meets with Beto over 2020 presidential run.

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This happened a couple weeks ago but is just hitting the news.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e79db33382f_story.html?utm_term=.8fbd5a35f8ab


TMZ, the Hollywood-based entertainment website, is now trailing O’Rourke; he is being swamped by calls from Democratic operatives eager to work for him, and other campaigns-in-the-making are eyeing his moves closely for any signs of his intentions. O’Rourke said at an El Paso town hall last week that he was considering a run, pending discussions with his family.
I think he can and should run. It would be hell on his family life but he can win.
 
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Him next to Trump is like an old spice commercial or an ad for eugenics. There's no way he wouldn't win even though I'm not a huge fan of him as a politician.
 
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The fact that Obama potentially favors this candidate over his own former VP Biden is the more significant part of the story.

Not having an initial Obama endorsement would absolutely kneecap Biden in the primaries.
 
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If he wants to run and people want him to run he should. I find it tough to believe the party would put its eggs in his basket after he lost to Cruz despite the support he received, but if he is who they want that's their call.

Honestly though, can you even imagine the field day Trump will have when he gives him a nickname?
 
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If anyone thinks a man is going to come out of the 2020 Democratic primaries on top they're underestimating the will of the party. The women's marches, #MeToo, Kavanaugh, 2018 midterms, not to mention the endless propaganda from news outlets making it sound like any white woman still supporting Trump has something seriously wrong with her... Dems have been paving the way for that first woman president. It provides a starker contrast to Trump.

America passed up the idea of the first woman president when it came up against the idea of the first black president. America passed up the idea the idea of the first woman president again when it came up against an outsider that was politically incorrect and not beholden to the establishment class. Third time's the charm, especially after years of media propaganda making the current president sound like Hitler 2.0.

No man, no matter how qualified, was ever going to pose a challenge to Pelosi during this time, nor will any man be able to stop a woman presidential candidate in 2020. She doesn't even need any strong policy ideas, all she has to do is speak clearly, forcefully and avoid making socially insensitive remarks to garner the support needed.
 
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You guys have similar criticisms so I'll address them instead of quoting

Regarding the name Beto: No he did not change his name to sound less white. Beto is a spanish nickname for Robert given to him as a kid. Its like saying someone changed their name from Richard to Dick to sound more phallic.

Regarding his loss to Zodiac Killer: It was in Texas and Beto won more votes there than Obama did in either of his presidential runs.

Regarding his status as a white man: No doubt there are swathes of the democrat party obsessed with identity politics. But this would only affect the primary not the general election. The average democrat woman is going to refuse to vote for Beto just because he beat her precious Kamala Harris. This goes double if he runs with a female VP (who could be even Harris hypothetically)

Regarding his DUI: This has't been brought up in the thread yet but consider that Bush won the presidency 2 times despite also having a DUI on record. And it happened closer to his election than it would if Beto runs.

I'm surprised none of you have called out his poor debate skills. Thats the most glaring flaw as Cruz made mince meat out of him on the stage.
 
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Regarding his status as a white man: No doubt there are swathes of the democrat party obsessed with identity politics. But this would only affect the primary not the general election. The average democrat woman is going to refuse to vote for Beto just because he beat her precious Kamala Harris. This goes double if he runs with a female VP (who could be even Harris hypothetically)
I'm convinced it won't matter. Provided Harris isn't persuaded to avoid running - she recently said she'd make up her mind over the holidays - Biden, Beto and the whole crowd of men currently in the field of potential candidates will have to explain to the public why the country needs yet another man to represent them when there is at least one very capable woman that has shown she will do whatever it takes to oppose Trump (re: Kavanaugh). That minefield's going to be damn near impossible to navigate.

The media will have a field day with it, of course, and they'll double down by telling everyone why "candidate X is better than Hillary because Y" to shake off any doubts voters may still have after that surprising 2016 loss.
 
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I'm convinced it won't matter. Provided Harris isn't persuaded to avoid running - she recently said she'd make up her mind over the holidays - Biden, Beto and the whole crowd of men currently in the field of potential candidates will have to explain to the public why the country needs yet another man to represent them when there is at least one very capable woman that has shown she will do whatever it takes to oppose Trump (re: Kavanaugh). That minefield's going to be damn near impossible to navigate.

The media will have a field day with it, of course, and they'll double down by telling everyone why "candidate X is better than Hillary because Y" to shake off any doubts voters may still have after that surprising 2016 loss.
If the Democrats run Harris they are going to have a bad time. Harris plays well with her base, but she's about as likable as Hillary Clinton. She'll have a hard time pulling centrist voters, IMO.

This quote by Camille Paglia sums it up well:
I had high hopes for Kamala Harris, but she missed a huge opportunity to play a moderating, statesmanlike role and has already imprinted an image of herself as a ruthless inquisitor that will make it hard for her to pull voters across party lines.
Also, the rumors of her getting her career off the ground due to an affair with Willie Brown will hound her, and if proven true ruin her candidacy.
 
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Dems sure love their losers

i could care less about Beto. if they announced "DNC is looking into M4A or serious comprehensive medical reform as a party platform" then i would be excited. if they announced a minimum wage hike or serious push back on defense spending i would be excited. real change. not just putting on a nice face while we continue to bomb and torture people.

policy excites me. if people want to vote solely for a personality, they will lose, Trump is the most entertaining person ever.
 
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A Beto/Harris ticket would be very nice.

Those of you crowing about him losing in TEXAS... Is it baby's first election? In other words it's stupid as all fuck to equate a result in Texas with a national result.
Kamala Harris is awful policy wise tho. Having Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders as VP would actually give lefties some semblance of faith in democrats.
 
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If the Democrats run Harris they are going to have a bad time. Harris plays well with her base, but she's about as likable as Hillary Clinton. She'll have a hard time pulling centrist voters, IMO.

This quote by Camille Paglia sums it up well:


Also, the rumors of her getting her career off the ground due to an affair with Willie Brown will hound her, and if proven true ruin her candidacy.
I might have agreed 4+ years ago, but the times have changed and the media spin these days is stronger than ever. Willie Brown wasn't married when the two were together and whether or not that relationship helped or hurt her political career at the time is up for debate. I think her only challenge would come from the other women choosing to run. Warren didn't do herself any favors with that DNA test, then there's Klobuchar and Gillibrand, polar opposites of one another as I see it, the former being more measured and reasonable while the latter having a more fiery spirit - they'd appeal to very different demographics.
 
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Some of You seem to have forgotten the Bernie guys that didn't vote for Hillary in 2016.

The issue here though is Beto has no real backbone and doesn't do enough to challenge people in interviews or debate, so he won't be taken seriously. Well, he's already not taken seriously already because he LOST.

Putting up someone who was hyped up way too much by the media and DNC will give Republicans unlimited ammo to unload on him. They can just play he clips he messed up most on in interviews and debates, the fact that he was hyped up and lost, and best yet, if Ocasio supports him that's another free shot.

DNC will make sure the super delegates run away from him even if he had a chance of winning the primary.
 
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If the discussion has shifted to physical attraction, I don't think thats exactly a problem for Beto.

He beats everyone in that picture in that department including the literal model.
 
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I might have agreed 4+ years ago, but the times have changed and the media spin these days is stronger than ever. Willie Brown wasn't married when the two were together and whether or not that relationship helped or hurt her political career at the time is up for debate. I think her only challenge would come from the other women choosing to run. Warren didn't do herself any favors with that DNA test, then there's Klobuchar and Gillibrand, polar opposites of one another as I see it, the former being more measured and reasonable while the latter having a more fiery spirit - they'd appeal to very different demographics.
Gillibrand just shot herself in the foot with this doozy of a tweet.

 
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Obama is trying to see if he can get Beto to protect the banks. If Beto is a true progressive he is not going to go for it. Then you might hear more about Bloomberg stepping in.
 

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If the Democrats run Harris they are going to have a bad time. Harris plays well with her base, but she's about as likable as Hillary Clinton. She'll have a hard time pulling centrist voters, IMO.

This quote by Camille Paglia sums it up well:


Also, the rumors of her getting her career off the ground due to an affair with Willie Brown will hound her, and if proven true ruin her candidacy.
Ah, so the 'rules' of a 'normal' canididate only apply to Democrats I suppose? Our current President fucked pornstars while his wife was nursing a newborn. I guess in a way it's good Democrats still have some standards for the bearer of their party.
 
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Ah, so the 'rules' of a 'normal' canididate only apply to Democrats I suppose? Our current President fucked pornstars while his wife was nursing a newborn. I guess in a way it's good Democrats still have some standards for the bearer of their party.
This post is wrong. No way Melania nursed that boy. Her personal services contract with Trump is explicit on that point.
 
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