TheGodfather07
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Oblivion Is Still Excellent 15 Years Later
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Starfield
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yeah it did. The AI was actually way more intelligent even in Oblivion already. They had to "restrict" the AI for release because it caused too many troubles. You can still find the code, even some in Skyrim as a leftover.
SafeOrAlone
Banned
Seems like most people say Oblivion better than Skyrim, and just as many people will chime in and say that Morrowind is better than Oblivion. Sounds like it's been a downward trajectory for many.
I really only spent more than a handful of hours with Skyrim. I enjoyed it, but never fell in love with it to the extent that many others did.
I really only spent more than a handful of hours with Skyrim. I enjoyed it, but never fell in love with it to the extent that many others did.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
To me they're still mindblowing on the Series X today. It's not because of the graphics quality (although it does seem like it's improved over my 360 playthoughs). It's more due to the exquisite art Bethesda originally created to make such a beautiful and immersive world in Oblivion.
The art and world of Skyrim doesn't compare for me even though it has higher quality graphics. It's bland and boring when compared to the spectacular and magical world of Oblivion.
Wherewithal Not Found
Member
The number of shitty hot takes in this thread is astounding. Oblivion was and still is an incredible game and anyone not obsessed with being the edgiest little shit can probably see that(people who dislike the genre withstanding)
Bonfires Down
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Played some 10 hours before I dropped it. The story is… ok. The combat is… ok. There’s just so much downtime with nothing exciting going on and when you find something it’s just another dark cave with some pointless loot. Witcher 3 and BotW did the exploration thing so much better.
GnomeChimpsky
Member
For me it's the exact opposite. World design in Oblivion was great but everything else was meh. Character design was just awful. And don't get me started on voice acting... dear god.
Skyrim is visually much bleaker but art direction is tight.
Mr Branding
Member
Best Elder Scrolls for me. Can’t wait to replay this on the Deck. Ost is pure magic and the quest design and factions are way above Skyrim
Starfield
Member
For caves and dungeons I really suggest you to try out this mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/40392?tab=files
This dude changed the layout and design of basically every non-quest related dungeon or cave. He's put some real work in it and it shows. Makes the caves more unique like in Skyrim.
You have to remember how many people were in Oblivion's development team. (about 70 people compared to Witcher 3 with 150-250, also Witcher 3 came out 10 years later lol)
And caves were made from like 1 or 2 people
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
It's kind of paradoxial. Oblivion looked very empty and shallow (world and dungeons) but was rich in depth (story and quests). Skyrim was just the oppsite. Fallout 4 was even worse.
Fallout 3 was kind of a good middle ground if you ask me. Hope that TES6 is again more like it. I mean, it's neat to have a cool world and diverse dungeons but if you do not fill them with actual and well written quests it's all for shit. We are decades off the point where AI stuff will make up for hand written quests and quest lines.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
I loved it when it came out, but the level scaling - bandit attack and they're all wearing glass armour and have amazing weapons, costing enough to buy a village is idiotic - and Oblivion gates are horrible, and dropped it to maybe my least favourite of the Elder Scrolls games. Those things make the grind really bad as you go through it.
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IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Tschumi
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When i go back to play older TES titles... It used to be Morrowind and its amazing expansions, but it's always Oblivion now... I prefer the setting, prefer the music, i prefer the lack of manly chanting, prefer the pace, prefer the story, yeah. Skyrim.. i completed it twice with great enthusiasm, and i feel like there's nothing left for me to discover.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Oblivion Is Still Excellent 15 Years Later....
MMMmmmmmm.....
Elder Legend
Banned
I could never understand why people got so into Elder Scrolls Series. The characters always looked fugly, the minotaurs looked super derpy as well. I tried both Skyrim and Oblivion multiple times and could never get into it. However, I am glad these games exists as I do understand they did a lot for the industry in terms of big open world rpgs and happy for the fans that like them.
This is coming from someone who's a huge fan of fantasy settings.
But I also dislike Lord of the Rings, for me artstyle and depiction of the races and creatures is a very big deal and I do not like how both of those universes depict dwarves, elves and so on.
I really love the more darker and Gothic fantasy of the Dark Souls Series. And I always liked the style of Warcraft as well. Yeah, very different comparing the two but still far superior than LotR or Elder Scrolls to me.
Dungeon and Dragons, Magic the Gathering is pretty solid too.
This is coming from someone who's a huge fan of fantasy settings.
But I also dislike Lord of the Rings, for me artstyle and depiction of the races and creatures is a very big deal and I do not like how both of those universes depict dwarves, elves and so on.
I really love the more darker and Gothic fantasy of the Dark Souls Series. And I always liked the style of Warcraft as well. Yeah, very different comparing the two but still far superior than LotR or Elder Scrolls to me.
Dungeon and Dragons, Magic the Gathering is pretty solid too.
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SlimeGooGoo
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93xfan
Banned
At the time, not many games were that ambitious though. In 2006, I don’t remember anything close to this scale (at least on consoles
Fredrik
Member
It’s about immersion, open worlds, role playing, lore, exploration and mods. Nothing comes close today. Bethesda is the only one pulling all those strings simultaneously. The peak of Skyrim was Skyrim VR with HIGGS and VRIK mods for me. You’re there.
TheGreatMusashi
Member
Easily my favorite Elder Scrolls. Such a weird, fever dream of a game. I love everything about it.
synchronicity
Member
Oblivion will never not be excellent.
And if I put the OST on, I'm immediately transported every time.
And if I put the OST on, I'm immediately transported every time.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Oblivion Modder Shows What the Town of Skingrad Looks Like in Unreal Engine 5
Unreal Engine 5 has just been fully released and people are utilizing it to its fullest, which includes showing what Oblivion looks like in it.
gamerant.com
Uploading a video to YouTube a few days ago, Greg Coulthard, a self-taught CG enthusiast, has shown what 2006's Oblivion looks like when put through Unreal Engine 5. Specifically, they've shown the town of Skingrad, including the castle exterior. As many can imagine, the result is a much more modern take on the now somewhat dated Elder Scrolls title. The visuals are more befitting of a modern game, and while the original is still quite pretty to this day, it shows just how much it can be improved when recreated using up-to-date tools.
While it's not quite Oblivion's gorgeous Imperial City, Skingrad is still an interesting locale for demonstrating the power of Unreal Engine 5. One of the most distinctive things about this town, which lies along the Gold Road, is its castle. Situated at the end of a high stone bridge, overlooking the surrounding valleys and hillsides, Castle Skingrad towers over the region. The sight of it in this engine makes it look even more spectacular. Generally, the whole thing looks ever more impressive than the vanilla version of the game, which is now 16 years old.
mindfreak191
Member
Oblivion Modder Shows What the Town of Skingrad Looks Like in Unreal Engine 5
Unreal Engine 5 has just been fully released and people are utilizing it to its fullest, which includes showing what Oblivion looks like in it.
Uploading a video to YouTube a few days ago, Greg Coulthard, a self-taught CG enthusiast, has shown what 2006's Oblivion looks like when put through Unreal Engine 5. Specifically, they've shown the town of Skingrad, including the castle exterior. As many can imagine, the result is a much more modern take on the now somewhat dated Elder Scrolls title. The visuals are more befitting of a modern game, and while the original is still quite pretty to this day, it shows just how much it can be improved when recreated using up-to-date tools.
While it's not quite Oblivion's gorgeous Imperial City, Skingrad is still an interesting locale for demonstrating the power of Unreal Engine 5. One of the most distinctive things about this town, which lies along the Gold Road, is its castle. Situated at the end of a high stone bridge, overlooking the surrounding valleys and hillsides, Castle Skingrad towers over the region. The sight of it in this engine makes it look even more spectacular. Generally, the whole thing looks ever more impressive than the vanilla version of the game, which is now 16 years old.
Yeah, sorry but that looks like ass....tbh Skyblivion looks better than whatever the fuck this is, just goes to show that you can have the newest engine and still create something that looks like an early last gen game. But, seeing that they made this by themselves, kudos, but these articles really need to cool it on the hyperbole.
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After more research, fucking lol this person literally just took all the data from Oblivion and exported it into UE5.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Hell yeah Oblivion is fantastic. The world is teaming with atmosphere, it's so fucking good.
Played it on SX not too long ago. 4K/60 FPS and 1~2 second load times through out.
The Dark Brotherhood questline is fucking amazing, probably better than the main game.
Played it on SX not too long ago. 4K/60 FPS and 1~2 second load times through out.
The Dark Brotherhood questline is fucking amazing, probably better than the main game.
anthraticus
Banned
To a lot of console gamers who never played an open world RPG like that before, it must have been novel.
But for longtime fans of the genre it was one of the biggest disappointments ever in gaming and the one that is often looked at as the symbol of decline for RPGs, introducing things like being led around by an idiot marker, reducing it to just playing a game of 'follow the directions'(which a monkey can do) instead of actually having to figure out the game on your own.
Everything 'scaling to your level' making all the RPG systems feel pointless.
2 huge no no's right there.
But for longtime fans of the genre it was one of the biggest disappointments ever in gaming and the one that is often looked at as the symbol of decline for RPGs, introducing things like being led around by an idiot marker, reducing it to just playing a game of 'follow the directions'(which a monkey can do) instead of actually having to figure out the game on your own.
Everything 'scaling to your level' making all the RPG systems feel pointless.
2 huge no no's right there.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Yes but is was a 1st person perspective. basically 3d. Sprites instead of polygons.
JerryinSoCal
Member
I'd love for this game to get a remake, redo ALL of the animations none of this "staying true to the original" nonsense, if they couldn't do better that's no reason to make the customer suffer now. Obviously it needs graphical improvements, getting rid of the constant mini loads when walking around the environment would help a lot as well. They should keep the core things like spell creation etc exactly the same but offer a much better 3rd person option, tighten up the first person controls. I loved blasting people with lightning and watching them go bouncing around indoor locations lol.
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Kikorin
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I remember I pre-ordered the limited edition back then, just sold by screens on magazines. I had a pretty new PC and still it was running like shit, but I was amazed by the graphics and never wanted to lower settings for better framerate. I'd be curious to know how bad I played it (never finished), but probably well under 30fps.
nominedomine
Banned
This is complete heresy and deeply offends me on so many levels it physically hurts.
Now I have no option but to bleech my eyes.
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StateofMajora
Banned
Sure! Has the best dialog ever.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
15 years?!!!!
Ouch my bones
Ouch my bones
SenjutsuSage
Banned
All their biggest games are excellent still years later. Morrowind hasn't aged as well, but everything Oblivion and onward is still top notch.
EDMIX
Member
Still shocked we've yet to receive a remake or remaster
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Oh, trust and believe they're all getting remastered. Every last one lol.
GenericUser
Member
I still prefer Oblivion over Morrowind and especially Skyrim. The setting alone makes Oblivion so much more comfy then Skyrim or Morrowind. I definitely need to pick this up, the next time it's on sale on xbox.
BusierDonkey
Member
I referred to Oblivion simply as "Nerd Quest". The fantasy setting of Elder Scrolls isn't exactly my cup of tea. In the end I put about 500 hours into finishing everything in Nerd Quest. Then I did it again in Skyrim which was just about the only game I played for an entire year from launch until fall 2012.
Bethesda games are time vampires.
Bethesda games are time vampires.
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killatopak
Gold Member
I have actually recently replayed Oblivion and Skyrim to completion.
I must say that without Shivering Isles, Skyrim is the better game.
I know Skyrim simplified the rpg elements but I prefer that to Oblivion‘s confusing level up system that scales your enemies with you. Oblivion’s is terrible especially on higher difficulties. Unless you specifically and meticulously level up skills and write them down in the right order and amount, shit gets harder rather than easier levelling up.
Morrowind is the best anyway.
I must say that without Shivering Isles, Skyrim is the better game.
I know Skyrim simplified the rpg elements but I prefer that to Oblivion‘s confusing level up system that scales your enemies with you. Oblivion’s is terrible especially on higher difficulties. Unless you specifically and meticulously level up skills and write them down in the right order and amount, shit gets harder rather than easier levelling up.
Morrowind is the best anyway.
niilokin
Member
this is exactly the word that Oblivion brings to my mind, though Morrowind was a strong conteder comfy-wise as a kid playing it on Xbox from my bed
SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
Don't even bother with Skyblivion, it will never be as good.
Don't forget to do the Thieves Guild and the Dark Broterhood questlines. They're really good.
amigastar
Member
Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to these questlines.
Rykan
Member
Wasn't even good when it came out. The excellent soundtrack and the at the time incredible visuals did a lot to hide how completely and utterly broken the game is. Oblivions gameplay and the mechanics behind them were straight up garbage, even for its time. It basically started what I call the "Open World Pass" in which poor design and poor gameplay are excused and the game is given a pass just because it is an open world game.
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