How is this adult? How is this a place conversation can flourish?
How do people act like this? Accept it?
And guess which poster got banned?
I have zero idea how sane adults can partake in that place!
I don't know. It's kind of fascinating though.
This argument, the subsequent non-ban worthy "fuck you" and the eventual ban for the other guy was all in service of pushing "Joe Rogan is a terrible person".
Why is Joe Rogan so bad? He talks to people we don't like.
The latest post states that Jordan Peterson is a "gateway to the alt-right" but also criticizes Rogan for talking to more right wing people than left.
The way people act you'd think that to be right wing is illegal or something.
There's no distinction made between being right, far right, alt right etc.
Some of the comments on the thread:
"Fuck Joe Rogan and fuck anyone who defends him"
"all of the
goddamn Nazis that make up his regular programming"
"Let me know if he's ever being interviewed by someone who isn't an
alt-right enabler"
"And also have
white nationalists like Gavin Mcinnes and Sargon of Akkad on his show"
"He's the biggest
pipeline to the alt-right outside of Youtube's algorithm"
"entertains their shitty
alt-right point of view"
"he's creating a platform for the individuals of the
alt-right/white nationalists to come on his podcast and spread misinformation and
bigotry unchecked "
"No clue about Shapiro, but the other dude is an
incels poster boy" (other dude is Jordan Peterson)
"you don't see any of their
Neo-Nazi shit?"
"ben shapiro doesn't even
have his own perspective. he's paid to have them,
financed by actual evil people"
"Fuck joe rogan racist ass"
Yet pretty much the only guy who challenges them on this utter stupidity is banned for "defending bigotry across a series of posts".
I think the guy is right though. Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson and Sargon of Akkad are not alt-right, neo-nazis.
But it has been decided that they are and if you even suggest that they are not? Defending bigorty, banned.
I'm not a fan of Gavin McInnes and I don't know very much about him so who knows.
It shows really what's wrong with the site. Certain unchallenged "facts" are established. JP is a gateway to the alt-right. JR gives JP a platform and therefore enables the alt right. If your disagreement with this is too strong or too well articulated then you will be hit with a ban.
The question I would ask is... what is the point of it all?
Jordan Peterson and Sargon of Akkad, at least, are very much against the alt-right and there is plenty of evidence of this. Not just in their statements outright saying they don't like the alt-right but also in the fact that their personal philosophies do not align with the alt-right at all.
Who does it serve when you are taking people who oppose the alt-right and accusing them of being alt-right? Surely the only winner there is the actual alt-right since you are removing some of their most vocal, and most reasonable, opposition from the equation?
So all we are left with as "opposition" to the right, alt right, whatever, is a crowd of incoherent screeching morons that are about as likely to turn on their allies as they are to do anything about the actual far right?
I don't get what their endgame would be here?