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Official Advance Wars: Days of Ruin Thread of WiFi voice chat & childish name-calling
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AdmiralViscen
Banned
This game is going to be fan fucking tastic.
Pureauthor
Member
I wonder what the final battle will be like. I want another epic 3v1 battle. AWDS' final battle was so disappointing.
Fredescu said:
Ugh, where have you people been? This has been out since Mario Kart DS.
1. There is no "Works with Wii" version. They all should work with both the DS and Wii.
2. Yes, it works with XP only. It came out before Vista was released and by the way Vista is being received most people still have XP anyway.
3. It is sold at some Gamestop stores and Nintendo World. You can also get it from Nintendo's online store. If any other place has it they either specifically ordered it from Nintendo or bought their own and are selling it for a slightly higher price. Either way, the point is that it wouldn't be a fake.
Little Green Yoda
Member
Gamecocks625 said:
Black Hole Rising had the War Room (which is a collection of maps played for rank) but I skipped Dual Strike so I don't know if that or Days of Ruin have it.
I'm also curious about what the Nintendo Power review didn't like about this game.
I'm still torn on this one, mostly because I've spent so much time with the series already and it has become progressively worse with each new iteration. Well actually that's not fair; Advance Wars 2 may have added a few things I didn't like (CO Super Powers, Neotanks), but the expanded campaign and added options put it at least on par with the original. Dual Strike, on the other hand, was just completely over the top and while fun, really pushed the limits on what I want to put up with just to play an Advance Wars game.
I'm really glad to hear they've scaled back on the CO Powers, because that was my number one issue with AWDS -- they were just wayyy too game-changing. A lot of the campaign suffered from Mario Kart syndrome, i.e. you are constantly punished whenever you get ahead of the AI. There would be times when I would end up not attacking the opponent just because I knew it would fill up his stupid power meter and then my enormous squadron of awesome units I tirelessly built up would be decimated in some way or another for no reason at all. Playing against any combination of Drake, Olaf, and Hawke was just painful, especially with Drake's fuel killer. Not fun.
I also thought that the CO skills and leveling up was a poor design choice, because it took strategy away from building and positioning units and put it into picking which skills to equip or forced you to use Jake/Sasha/Rachel just because having had them since the beginning, they were automatically the best leveled for the majority of the campaign and thus had access to the best abilities. Please IS, keep all the Fire Emblem stuff away from Advance Wars.
I don't bring any of this up to rag on Days of Ruin or to cause conflict in the official thread here, but I'm just curious because I see near-unanimous hype for this game here -- have most people not played all three games (and therefore more likely to be burnt out on the series), or did most people not have the issues with AWDS that I did? I mean no question this game looks to be an improvement, but that CO ability and units being able to 'level up' doesn't sound particularly promising to me, either.
I'm really glad to hear they've scaled back on the CO Powers, because that was my number one issue with AWDS -- they were just wayyy too game-changing. A lot of the campaign suffered from Mario Kart syndrome, i.e. you are constantly punished whenever you get ahead of the AI. There would be times when I would end up not attacking the opponent just because I knew it would fill up his stupid power meter and then my enormous squadron of awesome units I tirelessly built up would be decimated in some way or another for no reason at all. Playing against any combination of Drake, Olaf, and Hawke was just painful, especially with Drake's fuel killer. Not fun.
I also thought that the CO skills and leveling up was a poor design choice, because it took strategy away from building and positioning units and put it into picking which skills to equip or forced you to use Jake/Sasha/Rachel just because having had them since the beginning, they were automatically the best leveled for the majority of the campaign and thus had access to the best abilities. Please IS, keep all the Fire Emblem stuff away from Advance Wars.
I don't bring any of this up to rag on Days of Ruin or to cause conflict in the official thread here, but I'm just curious because I see near-unanimous hype for this game here -- have most people not played all three games (and therefore more likely to be burnt out on the series), or did most people not have the issues with AWDS that I did? I mean no question this game looks to be an improvement, but that CO ability and units being able to 'level up' doesn't sound particularly promising to me, either.
Every Advance Wars game has had the War Room (all AW1 WR maps were in AW2, all AW1+2 WR maps were in AWDS, each new game has just added a few new ones to the list) so I don't see why DoR wouldn't have it as well.Little Green Yoda said:
I've owned and finished all 3 Advance Wars games and I consider AW
S to be the pinnacle of the series. Not liking NeoTanks is Blasphemy... :lol
I can see why someone would prefer each individual game though as they all have slight different emphasis on the strategy.
I agree that the CO & tag attacks overbalance the game and force you to leave crippled units instead of destroying them to minimize the star gain (and then nuke them all when the opponents star power is active) but I just treat that as another part of the games strategy.
S to be the pinnacle of the series. Not liking NeoTanks is Blasphemy... :lolI can see why someone would prefer each individual game though as they all have slight different emphasis on the strategy.
I agree that the CO & tag attacks overbalance the game and force you to leave crippled units instead of destroying them to minimize the star gain (and then nuke them all when the opponents star power is active) but I just treat that as another part of the games strategy.
Phife Dawg
Member
Nice op. Have my pre-order down, was conflicted between getting the PAL and US version. But since it's around half the price I'll have to wait a bit for the post to deliver the thing.
Looking forward to everyone's impressions.
Looking forward to everyone's impressions.
I see no major problem with Neo (I can deal with them, even without Neos, indirect units are efficient, and the Anti-tank will be welcome). But there's a little thing that doesn't work : all units in AW1 are usefull. All of them, and nearly equally... The Md tank in AW has seen a decrease in efficiency, but not due to its strengh/value. Due to the fact that's a tank with 5 movement when Normal and Neo have 6. Neo is far better than Md (for its value) just for this additional case if you're looking for S-300. I nearly stopped using MD, except on special situations and as a gap-filling when money is scarse.nli10 said:I've owned and finished all 3 Advance Wars games and I consider AW
I welcome the changes, because I found that in the previous game, a lot of the strategy was triggering the tag when playing 2-CO games. It was a bit less strategic (tag with samy as second CO was often nearly a cheap method to win, for example)
Edit : still, I loved AW: DS as the previous iterations, I'm just happy to see new things to experiment.
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Meloche said:
I've played and beaten all 3 Advance Wars games, and I absolutely adore the series, so I'd probably be picking this one up regardless.
That being said, I totally understand where you're coming from. The main reason I'm so enthusiastic about DoR is that they've changed it so much. Dual CO powers were game breaking in the previous game. And like you said, MdTanks became near useless, and there were a lot of other balance issues. It seems like they've gone in and rebalanced everything to make the game even more strategic.
And I agree about the leveling CO's thing, it was annoying being stuck with certain CO's during the campaign, because you needed access to certain skills just to avoid being wiped out within the 2nd turn (although only one map really had this problem).
I think the leveling units will be less of an issue, as long as they keep it somewhat balanced, for several reasons. First off, because the units aren't persistent from map to map (like CO's were), you're never going to be stuck on a map that requires a specific, leveled unit. Secondly, units have to survive to level, which gives you incentive to protect and combine units, rather than just doing an infantry/tank rush. Although I do worry that it's going to overpower indirect units, since they'll tend to be higher level than ground units (because of the staying back from the front line & not dying).
Noooo! I don't want to have to buy another game...
Why do they keep making awesome DS games? I keep looking at them and saying 'Wow. That looks fantastic.'
Then I never buy it because DS games never drop in price.
Why do they keep making awesome DS games? I keep looking at them and saying 'Wow. That looks fantastic.'
Then I never buy it because DS games never drop in price.
Now I have to buy two copies just for this... (I play Hwoarang)zoukka said:
Three...Osaka said:I think I need to get this game just because that Lin is so hot.
Gamecocks625
Member
gimz said:
The game is being released on the 21st. It will likely be in stores on the 22nd or 23rd. There is no delay.
evilromero
Member
Any word on the difficulty? AWDS just kicked my ass too hard.
hylian_pirate
Member
AWDS was the easiest game in the series, IMO. It wasn't very challenging like AW2.evilromero said:
platypotamus
Member
ag-my001 said:
Yeah, I was saving mine for Brawl, but I might just use it for this so I'm not tied to TRU for Brawl.
Gamecocks625
Member
Kawaii said:
It's in the OP, but good enthusiasm!
Indeed... IA is far better than in previous games, but the game was awfully easy, except some War room missions in 1 CO-no bonus mode if you're going for S-300 (I remember small map against Jess being tricky for example for Technique score). Advance campaign is a joke. We really need real difficulty levels this time.hylian_pirate said:
In fact, it was said here that maps war kept in war room between iterations in the series, but if you look carefully at them, they've been simplified (see Italian map, for example, you've an additional facility... or the small map with double rings of enemies, there's also more factories IIRC).
Golden Darkness
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OliveJuice
Member
Proven said:
I don't think I like Nintendo's strategy of not giving info about the game 'till 2 days ahead of it's release.
Zoramon089
Banned
I'm wondering with the bike available, what's the point of simply making infantry? Obviously bikers will be slightly more expensive but the only way I could see them balancing with normal infantry is by making them a little weaker to them. Oh, it probably won't be able to go on mountains either
OliveJuice
Member
Probably can't climb mountains either.Insaniac said:
marvelharvey
Member
They'll need an excitebike then!
Whoa, I can't believe I missed this thread earlier! Definitely a Day 1 pickup for me...I am so happy they are toning down the CO shit from the previous games. AWDS was way too overboard with the powers...it didn't even feel like a war game anymore.
Anyway, I can't wait for this game!! Hopefully we can get some battles going on WiFi...though I do admit that I am pretty bad at this game. Oh well, free win for my opponent! :lol
Anyway, I can't wait for this game!! Hopefully we can get some battles going on WiFi...though I do admit that I am pretty bad at this game. Oh well, free win for my opponent! :lol
Hootie said:
I enjoyed the CO powers and dual strikes when I played AW: DS, but now that I look back on it, it definitely is a good idea to tone them down. Why? Whenever I played AW: DS I realized my game strategy generally focused around getting my super co power, or dual strike, and then attacking my weakened enemy after that. Not that it was over-powered, cause the opponent has the same ability to dual strike, but the fact that gameplay became so focused on the co powers, it took away from the core game.
tiltnkirby
Member
A big thing that got me even more excited is the CO zone.
Also, the fact your CO doesn't just sit around drinking coffee all day and watch little men die for 30 days in-a-row. No, they're badass enough to open a can of whoop ass themselves.
Also, the fact your CO doesn't just sit around drinking coffee all day and watch little men die for 30 days in-a-row. No, they're badass enough to open a can of whoop ass themselves.
tiltnkirby said:
:lol Always more respect for a commander who commands from the battlefield.
The CO Zone will be interesting strategically, as will be targetting your opponent's CO unit. I wonder if you can transfer your CO without their unit having to be destroyed? That would be awesome.
Insaniac said:
The unit with the CO will automatically be Ace level, it may not keep track of the unit's xp separately. I could see that as a reason they wouldn't allow it, but I wouldn't mind if the unit defaulted to 0 level when the CO moved, that's just more incentive to keep them in that unit, without forcing you to do it.
mjc said:
Well, I don't know about more story, but it certainly will be different. I've also read there will be optional challenge missions in the campaign. I am really, really looking forward to this game.
LISTEN TO THIS MAN.Guled said:
DO NOT BUY THE DONGLE.
I honestly thought that the Wii's online was just slow as hell. Well, when I got my PS3, instead of having another damn lan line running into the living room, I picked up a wireless router. Now all of a sudden it doesnt take me 10minutes to connect to the Wii shop channel.
Get a wireless router. Its not that much more then the damn stupid ass piece of crapola that is the dongle.
Zoramon089
Banned
Have they revealed all the new units, yet? I'm still waiting for a sniper infantry class...
Insaniac said:
That's all the new units, but a few things to add. There's a new unit called the 'War Tank' which takes the place of Neotanks & Megatanks. (Costs 16000)
Also, the sea plan can attack both land and ship units, and possibly air units.
There's a youtube video introducing the bike unit that shows that it can't cross rivers. Also, the full list of produceable land units shows at 1:28 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjE7muFYoxk
Gamecocks625
Member
A review from Nintendo Power was posted over at Gamefaqs
Comandante42 said: