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Quick question: When you guys are talking about doing pullups, do you generally use a wide grip a la lat pulldowns, or do you just basically flip your chin-up grip?

I generally use the wide grip (no weights) and all this talk of weighted pullups makes me wonder what kind of beasts we actually have on this board!
 
I'm pissed. My traps won't grow for shit. Any tips? I've grown pretty much everywhere else, including my back, but my traps hardly look different from a couple years ago. And I could really use some nice traps as my neck is naturally skinny, which I don't like. Every time I try shrugs I hate them. Behind-my-back shrugs seem to target them better, but my ass always gets in the way of the bar.
 
Today is my off day.

Dinner tonight was as follows:

Shrimp salad
Chicken Caesar salad
1/2lb Cheese burger
1 Kamikaze on the rocks
1 Guiness
 
nastynate409 said:
Don't fuck around with this man. I had the same problem and waited months before seeing a doctor. A few weeks later I was in surgery for a herniated disc. Lower backs are very fragile and can easily be damaged. If you do have a herniated disc, it can slowly deteriorate and just become worse. The longer you wait, the more surgery that might be needed. I'd advise seeing how you feel after a few days and then having a MRI scheduled if the pain has not went away.

Please, don't delay treatment in your lower back. I've seen many people do this and they all regret it. I'm lucky my mother had a herniated disc as well, because I was able to identify my symptoms with hers and get myself to a doctor.

dude I am in some seriously severe pain right now. I can't even sit straight down .... I am moaning and shit in my bed .... i definitely did something bad, man. When the ibuprofen wears off .... woof ... it's bad.
 
So squats should be limited? I remember the severe pain I was under when I first began lifting. It must have taken at least a week for my arms to fully recover. Now I can work out every other day with only minor tightness in between. I have the sense that I just had to work off rust so that my arms could get used to so much lifting. It's like trying to start a car after ten years. Something is probably broken. But it seems like squats take a much heavier toil on my body. My legs are well conditioned, and I'm still getting a reasonable amount of lingering pain. It seems to be incrementally building too. I've already done squats twice this week, and I knew that more would be a bad idea. So I actually planned on spacing them out to Monday and Friday, and seeing a few comments in this thread strengthens this resolve. Does that sound like a good idea?
 
Hmm, what type of pains were you feeling? Squats def beats your body up in a good way. I squat 3 days a week no more no less. But you should not be feeling pains in your joints etc. How is your form? Are you warming up correctly?

To: JB1981

Bro get yourself to the dr and get that shit checked out. Something is borked, and like previous poster mention it will only get worse. Hopefully it is just a pulled muscle that will take care of it self but the pain you are describing, go now...
 
Mgoblue201 said:
So squats should be limited? I remember the severe pain I was under when I first began lifting. It must have taken at least a week for my arms to fully recover. Now I can work out every other day with only minor tightness in between. I have the sense that I just had to work off rust so that my arms could get used to so much lifting. It's like trying to start a car after ten years. Something is probably broken. But it seems like squats take a much heavier toil on my body. My legs are well conditioned, and I'm still getting a reasonable amount of lingering pain. It seems to be incrementally building too. I've already done squats twice this week, and I knew that more would be a bad idea. So I actually planned on spacing them out to Monday and Friday, and seeing a few comments in this thread strengthens this resolve. Does that sound like a good idea?

Squats twice a week, Monday and Friday, is not bad at all. I'd say, stick to that and see what you can do about adding it in one more time during the week, possibly Wednesday. Maybe do M/F for two weeks, then a M/W/F for a single week, then two weeks of M/F, and repeat for a while. Slowly move it to one week of M/F and two of M/W/F, and eventually every week being M/W/F. Your body will adjust to the additional load and you'll probably be able to handle it just fine, it just might take longer than you'd expect.

If the tightness/soreness is too severe though, M/F will probably still lead to growth.


A good friend of mine was recently hospitalized, and my girlfriend was having trouble sleeping at night because she was so focused on our friend, so I was spending a lot of late nights at her place until she'd fall asleep. This took a toll on my energy, since I was losing some sleep, so I went looking for some short term solutions.

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Fucking. Awesome. I've never tried this stuff before, but it made a huge difference in my mornings after being up late. I only ever drank a half-bottle at a time, but it made me feel awake. I wasn't energetic in a bouncing off the walls kind of way, but I just felt more cognitively aware, you could say.

I had a half bottle left after our friend was out of the hospital, and got the idea to try it before a recent lifting session, and fuck did I feel pumped. I did my entire routine in a solid 15 minutes less than normal, while adding on a bit more weight to several lifts, and felt great afterward. Woke up the next morning barely able to move, but hey you can't win 'em all. :lol Anyway, if people are having trouble finding motivation or focus to go lifting or complete their lifting routine, maybe trying the occasional 5-Hour Energy will help them out. I'm not planning on using them anymore, as I like to just get enough sleep at night to avoid situations like this, but it is a fun thing to try out once.

A good Q&A about them can be found at their website: http://www.5hourenergy.com/QandA.asp

I also found some pretty good bread wraps recently, was wondering what the GymGAF thought of them, or maybe hoped people here would find them enticing.

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It's some pretty solid stuff from what I can tell, tastes great too. Couple of nutrition labels from them + ingredients:

FlatOut Traditional Italian:
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Ingredients: http://www.flatoutbread.com/products/trad_ital.html

FlatOut Light Italian Herb:
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Ingredients: http://www.flatoutbread.com/products/lt_ital.html

Homepage is at http://www.flatoutbread.com/movie.html (go to "What's New" to get to the product list with ingredients/nutritional info).

They're a little high on sodium, but make up for it in other areas + tastiness.

TheLamonster said:
Why was the OP edited and deleted? There was a lot of good info there...

Glanton got in an internet-fight with Amirox and left GAF because of it, taking his post with him. He was eventually banned too, which I'm sure is related.
 
demon said:
I'm pissed. My traps won't grow for shit. Any tips? I've grown pretty much everywhere else, including my back, but my traps hardly look different from a couple years ago. And I could really use some nice traps as my neck is naturally skinny, which I don't like. Every time I try shrugs I hate them. Behind-my-back shrugs seem to target them better, but my ass always gets in the way of the bar.


my traps respond pretty well to training so i've never had this problem

but what i do usually for them is

normal front barbell shrugs
135, 225, 275, 315, 315, 225, 135 x 12, 60 second rest between sets

i'm not a fan of the behind my back shrugs, my butt gets in the way :D

i would suggest getting some straps as well, it will allow you to handle more weight, i know ppl might be against them on the forum but they can fuk off, if your grip strength is a limiting factor to training your traps, might as well use them, i have small hands and grip becomes an issue for me at a certain weight, and i am not a fan of using an overhand/underhand mix grip to handle the weight, so i just use straps, i think they are the best solution

some days i might do a few sets of dumbell shrugs, it can't hurt because i think traps respond pretty well to high volume

and if you deadlift regularly i would think u should have a nice set of traps after doing some direct trap work
 
satori said:
Hmm, what type of pains were you feeling? Squats def beats your body up in a good way. I squat 3 days a week no more no less. But you should not be feeling pains in your joints etc. How is your form? Are you warming up correctly?

To: JB1981

Bro get yourself to the dr and get that shit checked out. Something is borked, and like previous poster mention it will only get worse. Hopefully it is just a pulled muscle that will take care of it self but the pain you are describing, go now...

The good news is I feel considerably better after taking ibuprofen every 5 hours, icing and getting some rest. I took the day off work today.

The bad news is I have to wait til Thursday to see an orthopedic .... everyone's booked solid and the only place I can go to early doesn't accept Horizon HMO (I work for them too! lol). I am going to see a chiropractor at 2pm (she's a friend of my mother's) ... I'm going to ask her to do x-rays before touching me. I really wanted to see an orthopedic first because a.) it will be less out of pocket for me ... my chiro benefits are shit ...50% of the allowance for the first 6 visits, 25% of the allowance for the last 6 w/ a $25.00 copay.

If I went to a PAR specialist I probably would have had a $25.00 copay and that would have been the end of it. I was a lot more concerned about my situation late last night (I woke up and honestly thought I did something SEVERE to my back) but I am already feeling less tight and have more mobility/less pain. I am still in shitty shape but hopefully the chiro will alleviate some pain and shed some light on my situation. Thanks for the advice, guys. I'll keep you posted.
 
I just want to say that after my running day off yesterday I woke up to find that I NO LONGER HAVE A BELLY

It's awesome lol, I still have some love handles and kind of fat that is in front of my abdominal area but it's not much and at the rate my fat is burning, should take no time in disappearing.

Today is LSD day because I enjoy it damn it, and come Monday time to hit the Iron.


I started going running and changing my diet on June the 2nd, today, 8 weeks later, I am fitter than ever XD
 
joeblackisback said:
Quick question: When you guys are talking about doing pullups, do you generally use a wide grip a la lat pulldowns, or do you just basically flip your chin-up grip?

I generally use the wide grip (no weights) and all this talk of weighted pullups makes me wonder what kind of beasts we actually have on this board!
The beauty of pull ups (and most bar exercises) is that you have grip width options, and they'll all work a different part of the target muscle. It's a good way to do the same movement with a little variation.

Today, during my workout, I did 5 pull ups between every set of everything I did... so it was about 18-20 sets of pull ups. I varied my grip every 3 times.

edit: correction
 
hectorse said:
Ok, somebody tell me what's the purpose of the swiss ball in this workout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5cVgEbxpdg
Short answer: mostly pointless.

Longer answer:
The idea is to add instability to your position and therefore engage more muscle groups as stabilizers.
The thing is, it's ridiculously ineffective.
5 one legged skips engage your core more than sitting on a ball will do in a week, and the instability can fuck your form (or it would have, if you were doing a real exercise).
So yeah, it's a way to take bad exercise (the triceps pulldown) and making it worse.
If you see anyone doing this in a gym, feel free to point and laugh, unless it's the girl in this video, in this case, point, laugh and ask for her phone number.

BlueTsunami said:
Tricep pulldowns are pretty intense. The Swill Ball is there to save you if you collapse from overexerting yourself.
:lol
Awesome.
 
yacobod said:
my traps respond pretty well to training so i've never had this problem

but what i do usually for them is

normal front barbell shrugs
135, 225, 275, 315, 315, 225, 135 x 12, 60 second rest between sets

i'm not a fan of the behind my back shrugs, my butt gets in the way :D

i would suggest getting some straps as well, it will allow you to handle more weight, i know ppl might be against them on the forum but they can fuk off, if your grip strength is a limiting factor to training your traps, might as well use them, i have small hands and grip becomes an issue for me at a certain weight, and i am not a fan of using an overhand/underhand mix grip to handle the weight, so i just use straps, i think they are the best solution

some days i might do a few sets of dumbell shrugs, it can't hurt because i think traps respond pretty well to high volume

and if you deadlift regularly i would think u should have a nice set of traps after doing some direct trap work
I'll second that opinion, if you want bigger traps, nothing get results faster than shrugs, so suck it up demon.
I would recommend higher weight and lower reps however, 5x8 probably.
And there's nothing wrong with straps, most people will need them to effectively shrug heavy weights.
 
satori said:
Hmm, what type of pains were you feeling? Squats def beats your body up in a good way. I squat 3 days a week no more no less. But you should not be feeling pains in your joints etc. How is your form? Are you warming up correctly?
It's not joint pain. It's pain in the actual thigh muscles. I mean it's like any other pain you'd expect to get from heavy lifting, though for some reason the intensity of it has been much worse lately. I took several days off late last week to allow myself to rest, did some squats Monday, felt tight but fine Tuesday, and did more squats on Wednesday. Thursday my muscles were pretty sensitive when I put pressure on them. It's not the kind of incapacitating pain where I know something's wrong. It's more of the inconvenient I can do stuff but it's still pretty annoying pain. I did add ten more pounds recently, but I've added weight before.

Anyway, I paid a good deal attention to my form (there's nothing that's hurting that shouldn't be hurting). I'm more worried about the recovery time in between. I do a lot of cardio, and I just started squats in the past several weeks, so I don't want to over exert myself too much. Thanks for the response. Same for Soka. I might have to follow that plan once I grow more accostumed to squats.
 
Mgoblue201 said:
It's not joint pain. It's pain in the actual thigh muscles. I mean it's like any other pain you'd expect to get from heavy lifting, though for some reason the intensity of it has been much worse lately. I took several days off late last week to allow myself to rest, did some squats Monday, felt tight but fine Tuesday, and did more squats on Wednesday. Thursday my muscles were pretty sensitive when I put pressure on them. It's not the kind of incapacitating pain where I know something's wrong. It's more of the inconvenient I can do stuff but it's still pretty annoying pain. I did add ten more pounds recently, but I've added weight before.

Anyway, I paid a good deal attention to my form (there's nothing that's hurting that shouldn't be hurting). I'm more worried about the recovery time in between. I do a lot of cardio, and I just started squats in the past several weeks, so I don't want to over exert myself too much. Thanks for the response. Same for Soka. I might have to follow that plan once I grow more accostumed to squats.
Sound like general muscle soreness.
As long as it goes away (or at least goes down to acceptable levels) during the warmup sets, you're fine.
Diet can also make a big difference, if you don't get enough proteins you're likely to be sore longer.
 
During today's squatting, my right quad all of a sudden 'stretched.' I was descending, getting ready to engage the glutes & hamstrings, when I felt something shift in my right quad. I finished my set and quit squatting. No pain, no bumps, no lack of power, but something shifted. As if it stretched beyond its limits. Currently I'm icing it, getting ready for a mild stretch.

The exact same thing happened roughly 3 months ago. It was worse that time: my right quad felt like it was electrocuted for about 30 secs--no pain or problems after. I just took a break from squatting and didn't have any problems after.

I'm still curious what it is, tho.

Some other random comments:

* I tried rack lockouts the other day (partial bench presses where you only do the top part of the movement). I was expecting to be able to lift more than with regular bench presses, but I actually lifted less (I guess that has to do with starting in a 'dead zone'). Fun exercise, tho.

* People who do barbell rows: do you put the weight back on the floor after every rep?
 
Random question: For a couple of months now I've had this click in my left elbow whenever I straighten my arm in e.g. a push up or bench press or shoulder press (any time my arm has some pressure on it). It doesn't hurt at all and doesn't seem to cause any trouble with my lifting, but why is there a click? I don't really remember when it started either though I'm guessing it was during training. Any reasons why I could have this?
 
so i went to the chiropractor and got some x-rays done. basically she's assuming it's a disk injury but she says she treats these types of injuries the same as any other chiropractic injury ... i am going again tomorrow morning to get adjusted .... i actually did feel a little better after she adjusted my lower back .. it was like equal parts pain and pleasure after all the cracking ..... after looking at the-xrays, she told me that my spine is actually too straight .. i don't have a good, naturally curved spine and what's happening is that the weight is not being dispersed properly throughout the spine. seemed like it made sense ... she said she's also seeing the pre-cursor to bone spurs in the middle of my spine and she really wants me to take care of my back.

a little OT, but this lady's son is 18 is 6'2, 225lb and cleans over 500lbs, benches over 400lbs. She said he's a beast and has extraordinary strength .. I was like WTF?

I'm seeing Batman tonight .... gonna take some Aleve, put on some icy hot gel and fight through the pain.
 
Heres a couple of tips that works with me when it comes to squats (and dropping your ass below parallel).


1) Obviously, USE A LIGHTER WEIGHT. If you go to heavy, your body seems to naturally want to stop you from dropping your hips lower than your knees.

2) Flare your knees out a little. Don't try to point your knees straight and squat down.

3) Keep your head lined with your spine but when your dropping down, look up. Not all the way up but at a 45 degree angle. For some reason doing this allows you to keep your balance and your ass will just naturally drop down. Feel your ass drop below parallel then bring it back up.

My ass cheeks are sore as a motha' after 2 days of recovery. Feels good to do squats right.
 
If anyone needs any inspiration to work out and to know what it is like to feel like a man, then watch Rocky IV again. Specifically his training regiment.

Bearded Rocky = fucking awesome.
 
I've been wondering why I've been gaining weight even though I've been excersizing every day, then I mathed out the amount of calories in my daily protein milkshake: 1165 :lol
 
I have a question. When I wake up sore and sluggish from the previous days workout. Should I just make that a rest day or just fight through and workout anyway, because yesterday, I was extremely sore and just couldn't motivate myself to workout or anything. I just want to know what the best course of action to take is when this happens.
 
OriginX said:
I have a question. When I wake up sore and sluggish from the previous days workout. Should I just make that a rest day or just fight through and workout anyway, because yesterday, I was extremely sore and just couldn't motivate myself to workout or anything. I just want to know what the best course of action to take is when this happens.
Generally speaking, you need to stick to your plan, and yes, you will have low energy sore days that you'll need to fight through.
However, if you feel like your body just can't recover in time, you may want to consider changing you plan a bit.

And in my experience, having a day off between strength workouts as advisable for most people (but it really depends on what program you're on).
 
God's Beard said:
Ok, second day of HIIT, and it's officially not any easier. :lol
When it get easier, it's time to kick it up a notch.
You get used to it mentally, but if you're used to it physically you're not doing it right.
It's the general rule of physical training, your body is adapting not because you really want it to be ripped, but because you put it under stress it can't handle.

Get used to it, cause you'll never get use to it.

[kong fu flute music]
 
Chichikov said:
When it get easier, it's time to kick it up a notch.
You get used to it mentally, but if you're used to it physically you're not doing it right.
It's the general rule of physical training, your body is adapting not because you really want it to be ripped, but because you put it under stress it can't handle.

Get used to it, cause you'll never get use to it.

[kong fu flute music]
In that case, time to put my body under stress it can't handle, because I really want it to be ripped.
 
I think I had the most intense workout of my life tonight... I arrived to the gym late and had to race through a full body workout before they closed, I was literally the last one to leave and didn't have time to shower because they were closing. I was panting like crazy and I could feel my heart doing its best to pump blood to my organs. To make matters worse the very last two exercises were deadlifts and squats! I thought I wouldn't have the time/energy to do them but I managed to squeeze them in the end.

Felt like a million dollars. Except when my wrists were aching while carrying groceries after that :lol
 
I am making some serious progress after my deadlift injury.

I feel enormously better after two days of going to the chiropractor, icing and taking Aleve. I think I will be ready to go back in about a week. I already have a lot of mobility back and the pain/tightness has really subsided. I'm actually quite shocked by how quickly I'm recovering.
 
BlueTsunami said:
Heres a couple of tips that works with me when it comes to squats (and dropping your ass below parallel).


1) Obviously, USE A LIGHTER WEIGHT. If you go to heavy, your body seems to naturally want to stop you from dropping your hips lower than your knees.

2) Flare your knees out a little. Don't try to point your knees straight and squat down.

3) Keep your head lined with your spine but when your dropping down, look up. Not all the way up but at a 45 degree angle. For some reason doing this allows you to keep your balance and your ass will just naturally drop down. Feel your ass drop below parallel then bring it back up.

My ass cheeks are sore as a motha' after 2 days of recovery. Feels good to do squats right.

my ass cheeks never hurt after doing squats :(

I must be really doing something wrong, but I am very keen on form. Also, Rip recommends keeping the head down ... which I've been doing .. maybe i'll try with the head up when I go back in a week or so.
 
JB1981 said:
my ass cheeks never hurt after doing squats :(

I must be really doing something wrong, but I am very keen on form. Also, Rip recommends keeping the head down ... which I've been doing .. maybe i'll try with the head up when I go back in a week or so.


Do you squeeze your glutes hard when coming up?
 
JB1981 said:
my ass cheeks never hurt after doing squats :(

I must be really doing something wrong, but I am very keen on form. Also, Rip recommends keeping the head down ... which I've been doing .. maybe i'll try with the head up when I go back in a week or so.

You want to keep your head positioned correctly (to align the spine, you don't to kink anything) so don't tilt your head up! but what you should try is just looking up with just your eyes.

My main issue was that I was looking at the mirror and trying to see if I was dropping my hips down far enough when, instead, I should be feeling if its dropping. This caused balance issues. Looking up with just your eyes makes the motion of squatting feel more natural.

dabig2 said:
Do you squeeze your glutes hard when coming up?

Yeah, this too! By doing that your activating the glutes. Same principle as in flexing your pecks on the near lockout or any other muscles. Thats a good tip.
 
BlueTsunami said:
My main issue was that I was looking at the mirror and trying to see if I was dropping my hips down far enough when, instead, I should be feeling if its dropping. This caused balance issues. Looking up with just your eyes makes the motion of squatting feel more natural.
Fucking mirrors, I hate them, the gym I go to now have mirrors everywhere and it fucks my form.
I put a mattress on the mirror when squatting just to not get distracted.
 
So, doing my 3 sets of 5 reps of squats just an hour ago, and the first 14 reps go beautiful. I feel like I'm in form, it's feeling almost too easy... and then...

BAM. That 15th rep just hits me and my strength cuts out, almost lose my damn balance, and somehow, in some miracle, I managed to pull it through without falling down or getting hurt.

Sheeeeeeit. Another lesson learned not to rush that last rep and concentrate.
 
damn .... my back pain has evolved into this extraordinary feeling of weakness below the waist line. the pain is less severe but my legs feel like they're 100lbs and I feel wiped after moving around for a few min. Damn I must have really fucked myself up.
 
I had a pimple on the front of my shin (weird place to get one, never noticed one on my legs before in my entire life). Anyway, did deadlifts and didn't think about the pimple until after my first set I realized the pimple was obliterated by the barbell. Little spot of blood on the barbell and my shin bleeding a little. Wiped up and just finished my sets, but I'm proud of my first shin-bleeding deadlift, even if it was a gimped way to get it. :lol

Also, my deadlifts are almost caught up with my squats. They'd be lifting heavier if I hadn't started squatting in late March, but didn't do my first deadlift until around June. Whoops.
 
Chichikov said:
Fucking mirrors, I hate them, the gym I go to now have mirrors everywhere and it fucks my form.
I put a mattress on the mirror when squatting just to not get distracted.

you hate the mirrors?
It almost feels wrong when I lift on a wall with out mirros, I guess I am so used to them.
This brings up the question-Why do all gyms have mirrors anyways? People like to look at the selfs I guess?
 
mr stroke said:
you hate the mirrors?
It almost feels wrong when I lift on a wall with out mirros, I guess I am so used to them.
This brings up the question-Why do all gyms have mirrors anyways? People like to look at the selfs I guess?

So you can check out all the women without getting caught
 
mr stroke said:
you hate the mirrors?
It almost feels wrong when I lift on a wall with out mirros, I guess I am so used to them.
This brings up the question-Why do all gyms have mirrors anyways? People like to look at the selfs I guess?
I find them distracting.
I guess it has to do with what you're used to.
I learned to lift on a converted bomb shelter.
But then again, I'm a simple creature who is easily distracted by shining objects... why look there, there's a person who looks just like me, and he's squatting too!
 
I gained about 1/2 a pound this week, but I blame that on not exercising and the dark knight. Time to get back on things this week.
 
ok so i discovered this food called egg beaters (http://www.eggbeaters.com/index.jsp) and its basically eggs without the fat and cholesterol and still has about 8 grams of protein. ive heard eggs are supposed to have the best protein you can get so i was wondering if these would be of the same quality or would i be better off with just normal eggs. if so, is there a specific way the eggs have to be before i eat or does it not matter how i cook it?

also, im trying to also eat over 3000 calories a day so i can eventually gain 20 pounds of muscle (140 to 160lbs, 5 feet 9 inches). what exactly am i supposed to eat to get that much calories in a single day without eating an abundance of sodium, cholesterol, fat, and the like? i do full body workouts 3 times a week for an hour. thanks...
 
Vanish said:
ok so i discovered this food called egg beaters (http://www.eggbeaters.com/index.jsp) and its basically eggs without the fat and cholesterol and still has about 8 grams of protein. ive heard eggs are supposed to have the best protein you can get so i was wondering if these would be of the same quality or would i be better off with just normal eggs. if so, is there a specific way the eggs have to be before i eat or does it not matter how i cook it?

also, im trying to also eat over 3000 calories a day so i can eventually gain 20 pounds of muscle (140 to 160lbs, 5 feet 9 inches). what exactly am i supposed to eat to get that much calories in a single day without eating an abundance of sodium, cholesterol, fat, and the like? i do full body workouts 3 times a week for an hour. thanks...
Dietary cholesterol does not translate directly to serum cholesterol.
So yeah, if you want to bulk up eat meat and eggs and drink milk.

As for egg beaters, I have no experience with them, but eggs are great, why would like to replace with some artificial product with weird chemicals?
 
Ok, I'm looking back through this thread but I can't find what I need so I'm going to ask instead of wasting my entire day searching...

To you guys doing some variant of starting strength, but doing it more than 3 times a week, how are you splitting it up? Or is it absolutely taboo to do a program like starting strength more than 3 times in a week?

I generally lift about 5 times/week and I don't want to drop down to 3 for fear of getting lazy, although I'm extremely interested in the starting strength method. I even started doing power cleans for pete's sake.

So, what's the deal, can I do that and if so, what splits do you suggest? and if not, well, shit.
 
Vanish said:
ok so i discovered this food called egg beaters (http://www.eggbeaters.com/index.jsp) and its basically eggs without the fat and cholesterol and still has about 8 grams of protein. ive heard eggs are supposed to have the best protein you can get so i was wondering if these would be of the same quality or would i be better off with just normal eggs. if so, is there a specific way the eggs have to be before i eat or does it not matter how i cook it?

also, im trying to also eat over 3000 calories a day so i can eventually gain 20 pounds of muscle (140 to 160lbs, 5 feet 9 inches). what exactly am i supposed to eat to get that much calories in a single day without eating an abundance of sodium, cholesterol, fat, and the like? i do full body workouts 3 times a week for an hour. thanks...

Egg whites are actually eggs without the fat and cholesterol. They're generally sold in grocery stores near the Egg Beaters. Not that Egg Beaters are bad for you(afaik) but I definitely prefer egg whites simply because I really dislike the flavor of Egg Beaters.
 
joeblackisback said:
Ok, I'm looking back through this thread but I can't find what I need so I'm going to ask instead of wasting my entire day searching...

To you guys doing some variant of starting strength, but doing it more than 3 times a week, how are you splitting it up? Or is it absolutely taboo to do a program like starting strength more than 3 times in a week?

I generally lift about 5 times/week and I don't want to drop down to 3 for fear of getting lazy, although I'm extremely interested in the starting strength method. I even started doing power cleans for pete's sake.

So, what's the deal, can I do that and if so, what splits do you suggest? and if not, well, shit.
People have different programs here, and I do not follow Ripptoe's.
Personally, for a beginner, I would recommend on starting with a 3 days a week program, as the more days you do the more careful programming is required.

Taking a day off between strength trainings gives you some room for error.
 
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