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OMG, the Circle Pad Pro feels GROSS!
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THIS.
I hope he meant the Videos for GBA.
BattleMonkey
Member
Revelations is a good game, but the controls make me wish it was on a console. I'm not paying an extra $20 just to have good controls for one game.
The Elite
BOSS
I hope he meant the Videos for GBA.
Wait, was that a thing?
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I've been playing RE with CPP and here are a few thoughts.
1. I find it very ergonomic in terms of holding it in your hands. If you don't use THE CRAW hold and hold it in a relaxed manner, it's very comfortable to me.
2. The extra shoulder Z buttons are excellent. RE plays so much better with them.
3. There IS more of a dead zone in the circle pad than I think is ideal. This is true. I think it wasn't as apparent on the 3DS left circle pad because nobody was playing precise first/third person shooter style games with it.
However, and YMMV on this, I actually used the calibration menu in RE to recalibrate the right circle pad. I do believe it tightened up the dead zone by a little bit, as if RE's default calibration is set to allow for error as a safeguard. If you haven't done calibration from in the game yet, it's worth a shot.
Overall: I actually like the thing and believe it's pretty good, but not the best in terms of the dead zone of the slide pads. I would hope they use more robust analog mechanisms in the thumbpads on the Wii U controller - but folks should keep in mind that there's a hell of a lot more space inside the tablet pad for a thicker slide pad mechanism on the inside. The 3DS circle pads are tiny and super thin.
1. I find it very ergonomic in terms of holding it in your hands. If you don't use THE CRAW hold and hold it in a relaxed manner, it's very comfortable to me.
2. The extra shoulder Z buttons are excellent. RE plays so much better with them.
3. There IS more of a dead zone in the circle pad than I think is ideal. This is true. I think it wasn't as apparent on the 3DS left circle pad because nobody was playing precise first/third person shooter style games with it.
However, and YMMV on this, I actually used the calibration menu in RE to recalibrate the right circle pad. I do believe it tightened up the dead zone by a little bit, as if RE's default calibration is set to allow for error as a safeguard. If you haven't done calibration from in the game yet, it's worth a shot.
Overall: I actually like the thing and believe it's pretty good, but not the best in terms of the dead zone of the slide pads. I would hope they use more robust analog mechanisms in the thumbpads on the Wii U controller - but folks should keep in mind that there's a hell of a lot more space inside the tablet pad for a thicker slide pad mechanism on the inside. The 3DS circle pads are tiny and super thin.
My dream 3DS Lite:
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hey do me a favor move the headphone port from the bottom to one of the sides
thanks
if you like shitty choppy videos of SpongeBob, yes
Yeah this. When I got mine I tried holding it without the 3DS inserted, and it felt horrible. Like there was no grip at all. Almost as if it could slip out of my hands if I wasn't careful. It didn't feel completely right when I slapped the 3DS in there at first either, but then I found a comfortable way to hold it and now it's fine. It was the rounded bottom that made me confused.
AndyMoogle
Member
A 3DS Lite wouldn't, but a 3DS XL would. There is no way they are going to make a smaller 3DS AND add a second circle pad. That's just not happening.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
I've played both the Vita and 3DS with CPP. 3DS+CPP feels better than the Vita sticks.
Excellent, that's what this thread needed.
it is just fulfilling its destiny
Flachmatuch
Member
[sic]? Did I see someone use [sic] in reply to a gaming forum post? :-DDD So sophisticated :-DDDD
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
My dream 3DS Lite:
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My body/$199 is ready
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
My dream 3DS Lite:
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I'd prefer the circle pads above the d-pad and buttons. Just make more sense. I can see my hands cramping having the pads so close to the bottom. With the way we would hold the system, it makes more sense to have the pads higher.
thechristoph
Sir!
Please post impressions ASAP if you get one soon. I have the same problem you do with MK7. Mario 3D's second quest is also really difficult for me to play without getting cramps.
H_Prestige
Banned
Cute.
Wolfe
Member
I hope you react like this to everything, talk about overblown.
I feel like from your comment you don't have much 3rd party peripheral experience (not saying you don't just bear with me). I've owned two different 3DS grips and have used the CPP, the CPP feels far better than anything else I've tried if just for build quality and materials alone. Thing is at least well built.
I mean, I'm a bit amused as I now have read this completely useless piece of post and it's sort of a novelty at this point, but man, what happened AgentOtaku =(
My dream 3DS Lite:
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Change place where the D-pad is so the Circle pads are ther instead so yeah
That's a nice design.My dream 3DS Lite:
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The only "problem" is the whole "lite" aspect
Don't know how they could make it with all that..and smaller than the current one..
3DS XL if anything.
SuperDowns
Banned
I want Revelaitons, I do. But my Gamestops don't have any more Bundles or even Slide Pads and I won't buy that ugly motherfcker without first feeling it in the store. OP scares me that it won't be as comfortable as I'd hoped.
I see the advantages of two analog sticks, but there are significant drawbacks or other compromises that come into play. The handheld must be bigger, the buttons uncomfortably smaller, use small analog stick tops, etc. to accommodate the second stick. (See PSVita). Darned if you do, darned if you don't.
rollingstart
Banned
I've grown to like it. Initially it felt quite bad, and I still can't get a good grip on it, but the stick has broken in and I've learned how to hold it more with my left hand. Using the d-pad, L and R buttons don't feel natural. Surprisingly, using the touch screen or face buttons isn't a problem reaching over the right slider.
I feel like with the CPP already being such a massive lump of plastic, they should have gone all out and made it a controller grip. Right now it feels a big like the original Classic Controller with its smooth rounded back. If it had some actual grips or indents on the back, it would feel a lot better. Also a real second stick instead of a slide pad. I'm hopeful that a third party will make something like that.
The Hori 3DS Wheel makes playing the 3DS more comfortable at home because it's thicker and had grips on the back, elongates the shoulder buttons to feel like triggers, and generally gives the sensation of holding a console controller. That's what I want, only with CPP functionality.
and the problem with that mock up above is that it looks pretty uncomfortable. Biggest problem with the PSP slider was its placement directly under the d-pad, which is true for the 3DS d-pad directly under its slider. The PSP Go and Vita got it right by offsetting the analog and d-pad, making both comfortable to use. I'd have no problem of the hypothetical 3DS revision was larger if it was better designed. Getting the second set of buttons on there will be a bit more difficult.
I feel like with the CPP already being such a massive lump of plastic, they should have gone all out and made it a controller grip. Right now it feels a big like the original Classic Controller with its smooth rounded back. If it had some actual grips or indents on the back, it would feel a lot better. Also a real second stick instead of a slide pad. I'm hopeful that a third party will make something like that.
The Hori 3DS Wheel makes playing the 3DS more comfortable at home because it's thicker and had grips on the back, elongates the shoulder buttons to feel like triggers, and generally gives the sensation of holding a console controller. That's what I want, only with CPP functionality.
and the problem with that mock up above is that it looks pretty uncomfortable. Biggest problem with the PSP slider was its placement directly under the d-pad, which is true for the 3DS d-pad directly under its slider. The PSP Go and Vita got it right by offsetting the analog and d-pad, making both comfortable to use. I'd have no problem of the hypothetical 3DS revision was larger if it was better designed. Getting the second set of buttons on there will be a bit more difficult.
H_Prestige
Banned
Just because it's not as comfortable as a dualshock 3 doesn't mean it's not preferable to not having dual analog at all. And the entire DS line is too small to begin with, so there's room to grow.
Nintendo made a mistake with their design. They know it. It's ok for the fans to admit it too.
Diprosalic
Banned
analog + stylus is still the best way to play a game though.
NinjaBoiX
Member
Wow. I think I've heard it all now.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Damn you! That made me laugh so hard.
Pagusas
Elden Member
I agree, it needs to be moved up, my fingers would be way to cramped at the bottom of the system like that.
So a lot of people love it and a lot of people hate it. It seems to me, then, that it varies person-to-person, and therefore how in the hell could you know you like it or not yourself based on some other person's opinion?
Maybe if an overwhelming majority felt one way about it you could reasonably assume you'd feel that way too, but in this case if you're on the fence you probably need to try it yourself.
I recently got it, thought it felt weird, and now think it's great. For me, at least, it really does make the 3DS easier to hold for long periods. The second slide pad has a different feel to it, but is easy to accommodate to.
<shrug> I like it. But I'd MUCH rather have it all built in to the actual 3DS.
Maybe if an overwhelming majority felt one way about it you could reasonably assume you'd feel that way too, but in this case if you're on the fence you probably need to try it yourself.
I recently got it, thought it felt weird, and now think it's great. For me, at least, it really does make the 3DS easier to hold for long periods. The second slide pad has a different feel to it, but is easy to accommodate to.
<shrug> I like it. But I'd MUCH rather have it all built in to the actual 3DS.
Maybe, but just MAYBE, with the 3DS to 3DS-System transfare option that got added in the last update. Dunno!
EDIT: OH, i missed the trade-in part.... Joke's on me..
polyh3dron
Banned
test_account
XP-39C²
Having to use a stylus "handicaps" your hand from using buttons though. I guess it can work great in some games, but in others it would be more problematic.
MikeE21286
Member
I actually avoid stylus whenever possible. I always try and use my thumb now. I'm kinda over using the stylus ever again...
test_account
XP-39C²
That would work better yeah, but then you have the problem that the thumb covers the screen
But again, it variates from game to game, it works better in some than others.Diddy Kong
Banned
Probably going to pick up CPP soon
MikeE21286
Member
That would work better yeah, but then you have the problem that the thumb covers the screen
Yeah, it's not perfect by any means.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Um, that's why you have two of those >_>That would work better yeah, but then you have the problem that the thumb covers the screen
radioheadrule83
Banned
I love it personally.
nice underside ergonomics, feels more natural on the triggers, I attach it for Resident Evil and detach it for pretty much anything else. I'm used to holding quad trigger controllers with two fingers readied above the shoulder buttons on each side, but with this they're small enough that I just use one finger each side and can go between the two... I don't find going from the right circle pad to the face buttons difficult, and generally - on the one game I have that takes advantage of it, I find it really nice. RE:R is perfectly playable without it though -- the steering style gyro aiming controls Capcom implemented are really nice.
I feel like a bonus of it is that it makes it more comfortable to hold, but it could be improved and made even more-so. If they did a version that had old-school controller prongs that extend the lower palms of the hand (like a lot of 3DS grips have) I think it'd be amazing. If they gave it 360/GC controller style grips, it'd make it that little bit more comfortable.
nice underside ergonomics, feels more natural on the triggers, I attach it for Resident Evil and detach it for pretty much anything else. I'm used to holding quad trigger controllers with two fingers readied above the shoulder buttons on each side, but with this they're small enough that I just use one finger each side and can go between the two... I don't find going from the right circle pad to the face buttons difficult, and generally - on the one game I have that takes advantage of it, I find it really nice. RE:R is perfectly playable without it though -- the steering style gyro aiming controls Capcom implemented are really nice.
I feel like a bonus of it is that it makes it more comfortable to hold, but it could be improved and made even more-so. If they did a version that had old-school controller prongs that extend the lower palms of the hand (like a lot of 3DS grips have) I think it'd be amazing. If they gave it 360/GC controller style grips, it'd make it that little bit more comfortable.
test_account
XP-39C²
Good point when talking about the DS and the 3DS. It could work quite nice indeed then. Maybe i missed something earlier, but i understood the statement more as a general thing regarding control method, not just specific about 3DS. But again, it variates from game to game how well it works =)
This is the best post
Betta Lines
Member
This would be better I feel. (Ignore the labelling that doesn't line up on the right anymore)
It's more like a 360 controller layout. I made the right buttons and the right circle pad a tad smaller to shift them further away from the bottom of the device. Moved the D-pad a little higher than where the left circle pad was too.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
This is NeoGAF dude. Wait until Wii U comes out. We're just getting started.
evilromero
Member
I hate the slidepad. It's something I put up with on the 3DS but I would far prefer the analog they use on the Cube/nunchuk. My thumb always slips off and I have to realign. Plus it just doesn't have the same comfort as a regular analog. Hate it.