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Once Trump is Confirmed to have won his second term how will he heal a divided nation?

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Let's see.
1) He will be put on meds and may have to be admitted into a mental hospital for schizophrenia.
2) Melania Trump will leave him and he will marry Sydney Powell.
3) All of his social media accounts will be shutdown. First, he will get banned from Twitter for posting nothing but unfound conspiracy theories.
4) As a result, he will create Trump channel which posts nothing but fake news and wild conspiracy theories and the ratings will be YUGE.
5) In 2024, he will run as a Democrat and his followers will blindly follow.
 
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Well, if the Sydney Powell accusations are true, there will be mass arrests and most of the USA will support that and the crackdown on the DEM militant wings, Antifa and BLM, will be cataclysmic.
yeah her video interview tonight was a doozy

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thats why I made this topic. I get that some have a hard time accepting this possible reality — that doesn’t mean it isn’t possible this is how it goes down. It’s an interesting what if scenario ... how Trump (and if he even can) heals the nation.

I do think key components involve getting the CIA out of the mass media and laws around both defamation and propaganda. And secondly dealing with the social media companies to ensure their propaganda is also stopped.
 

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If Trump secures another term by hook or by crook, he's going Kill Bill on whoever's left standing, and you know it. Trump has no interest in governing and even less in healing and uniting. Scorched earth.
disagree. I think many democrats walk if it means the nation doesn’t go up in flames.

art of the deal ...
 
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yeah her video interview tonight was a doozy

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thats why I made this topic. I get that some have a hard time accepting this possible reality — that doesn’t mean it isn’t possible this is how it goes down. It’s an interesting what if scenario ... how Trump (and if he even can) heals the nation.

I do think key components involve getting the CIA out of the mass media and laws around both defamation and propaganda. And secondly dealing with the social media companies to ensure their propaganda is also stopped.
Yea, agreed. I also have no problem with people not believing the claims so far. I don't necessarily either, but I haven't seen the evidence and I believe it could be true.

One thing I can't understand is the people saying that stuff couldn't possibly be true. They are completely ignorant of history. In the US, with our alphabet agencies, we have had a long history of them doing illegal, world changing activities. How can you look at the spy activities of the Cold War era and think something like this couldn't happen now?
 

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My understanding is that the Trump team is trying to expedite the cases to the Supreme Court — this takes time.
Is that legitimately how it works? I'm an outsider but my understanding was not necessarily that you have to beat all the gym leaders to get to the elite four, but that you have to at least put up a fight.
i.e. lower courts -> substantial argument -> ruling -> you win or appeal to higher court -> higher court dismisses or takes the case and so on.

it is not hyperbole to extrapolate that assuming the accusations of orchestrated fraud are true, it will end with lifelong long jail sentences on charges of Sedition. If it turns out any domestic elements were working with foreign elements then I believe that upgrades the charges of sedition to treason of which one possible penalty is death. This is not hyperbole, it is US law.

The OP though ASSUMES that everything the Trump team has accused the Democrats of is true. They have manipulated the election via Dominion, flipped the vote, worked with foreign entities to do so. Those responsible are in jail or dead.

What is Trumps next step to heal a divided nation?
I believe you on the law, though a lot of "if"s to reach hangings and IMHO the thread would have received a better reception if that was omitted, leading to it being more tonally neutral.

I'm open to the possibility Trump wins in court and overturns but for the rest I can only suspend disbelief so far with so little to back it up.
Massive conspiracy & broad foreign fuckery in cahoots with US citizens/elected representatives? I don't think very many people could heal the US from that, least of all Trump. Is it unfair to say that he is openly abrasive to anyone that disagrees with him? I don't see a healing hand there so much as potential retribution.

I may get shit for this but a way out of the above scenario could probably be something like Trump announcing he'd step down in a year and act as relative stability while a transition towards a better system happens or a fresh election or letting the states decide a new President. I think the last option is part of the existing apparatus, from what I've gleaned on here? I only say this because of the massive and lasting fractures the situation would leave the USA to deal with.

For Supreme Court proven widespread fraud, that tipped key swing states with no outside fuckery, which would be comparatively run of the mill to the above: no stepping down. Some sort of independent inquiry to offer reform, fortify the process against whatever flaws have been alleged, and modernise where appropriate. Restore faith in free elections.
 
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He won't, not only because he didn't win, but because Trump went all in on his base for these past four years.

Zero attempt to actually "heal" any divide and his behavior on Twitter proves he just doesn't care.

The dude simply wants everyone to go MAGA and cheer whenever he declares victory, regardless of anything else. That won't work.
 
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“And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.”
 

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that’s a big one. I expect full regulation to come down hard on the tech companies once Trunp starts his second term. Legacy media too .. probably laws around propaganda and defamation?
What? One side loves censorship, and wants it even more. That won't heal.
 
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National Guard will eliminate anyone trying to fight against him leaving us with a population of 74M happy people.
 
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Trump can't heal us. This is a huge piece misconception.

This can't be healed by a leader and we can't get over this until dehumanization of the enemy becomes a social faux-pas again. I sure as hell won't be sitting at the table with anyone further left than a classical liberal until progressives chill out with the rhetoric they practice. The rampant escalationism, actually believing their own hyperbolic descriptions of things then amping it up further, the crusade they're on, the way they can't dislike someone's beliefs without co-opting the moniker of the most atrocious movements in history. And that's not even getting into their blatant embrace of communism, all the things that entails.


Fuck those guys. Period. You think you can negotiate with hardliners who think that racism is a consequence that has nothing to do with sentiment? To remove thought processes and intent from a concept that is about the subject's prejudices and then use it is just making up things about them.
 

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The Republican party and its (social) media apparatus is great at getting people out to vote through fearmongering so a divided country only works in their favor.
What's Trump's (or the GOP's) incentive?
 
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Trump is fueled by conflict just as much as the radical left/media is, it's not in his interest to heal a divided nation, if the nation wasn't divided he might have to do some actual governing and cement a political theory/ideology. The same can be said for the left, they have an entire (and dominant) political movement based almost entirely on how horrible the other side is, they have very few sustainable ideas for change themselves that go beyond stopping the other side form realizing their own unsustainable ideas.

To be fair to Trump, even if he was to try and "heal" the nation, I don't think there is anything he could ever do that would make his past missteps/misdeeds be forgiven by the other side, and even if there was, I don't know that it would matter. Trump is essentially just a mascot for them, a focal point for their hate and dissolution, if he were to somehow stop being the boogyman they will just find someone else. Which given Trumps loss, I think we'll see happen soon enough as the activist and media machine that has risen up by "fighting" against Trump will need a new target so they can keep their wheels spinning...Biden is sure to be a prime candidate here because of his somewhat centrist voting history and friendships across the isle.
 

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I don’t think he would. He loves to appease his base too much. He had 4 years to unite the country already and did nothing but divide it even further. It’s one of the many reasons I didn’t vote for him.
 

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Trump is fueled by conflict just as much as the radical left/media is, it's not in his interest to heal a divided nation, if the nation wasn't divided he might have to do some actual governing and cement a political theory/ideology. The same can be said for the left, they have an entire (and dominant) political movement based almost entirely on how horrible the other side is, they have very few sustainable ideas for change themselves that go beyond stopping the other side form realizing their own unsustainable ideas.

To be fair to Trump, even if he was to try and "heal" the nation, I don't think there is anything he could ever do that would make his past missteps/misdeeds be forgiven by the other side, and even if there was, I don't know that it would matter. Trump is essentially just a mascot for them, a focal point for their hate and dissolution, if he were to somehow stop being the boogyman they will just find someone else. Which given Trumps loss, I think we'll see happen soon enough as the activist and media machine that has risen up by "fighting" against Trump will need a new target so they can keep their wheels spinning...Biden is sure to be a prime candidate here because of his somewhat centrist voting history and friendships across the isle.
I think though that the “enemy” doesn’t have to be each other. If Trump were to get a second term I think that enemies outside the US will serve asa rallying point.
 
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I think though that the “enemy” doesn’t have to be each other. If Trump were to get a second term I think that enemies outside the US will serve as rallying point.
I don't think people would agree that engaging with any foreign enemy is a good idea though, judging by how popular grass roots campaigns by anti-war candidates were the last few elections (Sanders, Paul, and even Trump). Plus let's hope to not have a bunch more wars shall we?
 
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I don't think people would agree that engaging with any foreign enemy is a good idea though, judging by how popular grass roots campaigns by anti-war candidates were the last few elections (Sanders, Paul, and even Trump). Plus let's hope to not have a bunch more wars shall we?
not saying a war per say ... but definitely more Chyna Chyna Chyna. Especially if they are linked in any way at all to the election fraud
 

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not saying a war per say ... but definitely more Chyna Chyna Chyna. Especially if they are linked in any way at all to the election fraud
Well "Chyna bad" and all, but the left doesn't demonize them as much as Trump does (for whatever), I think it's more likely that the media would start pointing out hypocrisies in Trumps critique of China when compared to how he runs his own government or traditional consumerist American values that prop China up, so once again you'd get a left vs right narrative and most people would see his insistence of China being the boogeyman as a smokescreen. Like I said, I don't think there is much that could be done by Trump that would convince the media to leave him alone, short of starting to himself change his ideology and policies to be more far-left leaning (which I would assume you don't want given your username).
 
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No healing no matter who is in the WH at the end of January. The Crystal cracked and there will be the resulting age of turbulence. How bad will it get, no one knows. BUt it will get worse before the (organic) shift happens (due to system failures). Once the shift happens, so will the healing. ASk this question in 6-12 years if you want a real answer.
 
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Imagine starting a civil war because you don't like the president.
I think there is a huge difference between not liking a President and the will of the people being overridden by politicians. Biden vote gets overthrown without absolutely conclusive proof and our country will be in shambles. Plus we will look like hypocrites to the world. Personally, I think it will be the beginning of the end of our nation.

What will Trump do to heal the divide if he somehow wins? Nothing. He'll make it worse by targeting those who slighted him, use rhetoric to inflame more tension, and play victim through the whole process. Just like he has the last 4 years.
 
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I think there is a huge difference between not liking a President and the will of the people being overridden by politicians. Biden vote gets overthrown without absolutely conclusive proof and our country will be in shambles. Plus we will look like hypocrites to the world. Personally, I think it will be the beginning of the end of our nation.

What will Trump do to heal the divide if he somehow wins? Nothing. He'll make it worse by targeting those who slighted him, use rhetoric to inflame more tension, and play victim through the whole process. Just like he has the last 4 years.
it's already in shambles after 4 years of propaganda y conspiracy, sorry m8
 

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since we're having fun -->

trump should consider the following: do not concede under any circumstances, get ready to declassify everything, bleed biden's cabal dry, prepare two inauguration speeches, burn the alphabet agencies to the ground, go after everyone's black books and drives

metaphysically raze russia and china, pardon assange and snowden
 
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since we're having fun -->

trump should consider the following: do not concede under any circumstances, get ready to declassify everything, bleed biden's cabal dry, prepare two inauguration speeches, burn the alphabet agencies to the ground, go after everyone's black books and drives

metaphysically raze russia and china, pardon assange and snowden
Doesn't matter if he concedes or not. He doesn't have to concede, because contrary to his belief, he's not a dictator. January 20th his term ends and they'll escort him out of the White House if he doesn't leaving willingly.
 

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Doesn't matter if he concedes or not. He doesn't have to concede, because contrary to his belief, he's not a dictator. January 20th his term ends and they'll escort him out of the White House if he doesn't leaving willingly.
that goes without saying, m8
 

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I think there is a huge difference between not liking a President and the will of the people being overridden by politicians. Biden vote gets overthrown without absolutely conclusive proof and our country will be in shambles. Plus we will look like hypocrites to the world. Personally, I think it will be the beginning of the end of our nation.

What will Trump do to heal the divide if he somehow wins? Nothing. He'll make it worse by targeting those who slighted him, use rhetoric to inflame more tension, and play victim through the whole process. Just like he has the last 4 years.
No. If the votes were cast without observation by gop poll watchers, conclusive proof isn't needed to throw them out. At the very least a re vote is warranted in this instance. Just think about what you said and maybe you'll see how stupid it is.
 
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No. If the votes were cast without observation by gop poll watchers, conclusive proof isn't needed to throw them out. At the very least a re vote is warranted in this instance. Just think about what you said and maybe you'll see how stupid it is.
So far it seems like the courts disagree, and there were partisan poll watchers in place. So..... And if you think that the courts, including the Supreme Court, are going to disqualify votes without conclusive evidence you're insane. And you think I'm the stupid one? Lol.
Real EVIDENCE of widespread organized fraud, not twitter conspiracies or bullshit rhetoric that isn't argued in court, will be the only thing that changes anything. If they had it they wouldn't be spending millions on all these frivolous lawsuits or demanded recounts.
 

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So far it seems like the courts disagree, and there were partisan poll watchers in place. So..... And if you think that the courts, including the Supreme Court, are going to disqualify votes without conclusive evidence you're insane. And you think I'm the stupid one? Lol.
Real EVIDENCE of widespread organized fraud, not twitter conspiracies or bullshit rhetoric that isn't argued in court, will be the only thing that changes anything. If they had it they wouldn't be spending millions on all these frivolous lawsuits or demanded recounts.
There were no partisan poll watchers in place, and there is no need for conclusive evidence when fraud is assumed as is the case when poll watchers are obstructed.
 
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He can't win.

If he proves election fraud to the point where he wins, he'll be the one accused of cheating or "destroying democracy" as my super liberal aunt phrased it.

I asked her, "What makes you think he isn't preserving democracy?"

She had no retort, just looked sorta grossed out.

FREEDOM, BABY!!!

 

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trump should consider the following: do not concede under any circumstances, get ready to declassify everything, bleed biden's cabal dry, prepare two inauguration speeches, burn the alphabet agencies to the ground, go after everyone's black books and drives

metaphysically raze russia and china, pardon assange and snowden
Regardless of what happens, if he crossed two things off your list I’d be happy. I’d prefer one of them be the destruction of the intelligence community, but mass declassification and pardons of key thorns would be a good consolation prize.
 
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The only people who can heal the division created by the extreme left all around the world is the moderate left. Left-leaning people need to break away from extremists and start to denounce their insane agenda.
 
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The only people who can heal the division created by the extreme left all around the world is the moderate left. Left-leaning people need to break away from extremists and start to denounce their insane agenda.
dont a lot of people here identify as moderate left though? I was under the impression many centrist left leaning people have already denounced the crazy regressive left
 
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