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Oscar Isaac: "Metal Gear movie still didn't enter pre-production"

mansoor1980

Member
im sure it will be worth the wait
 
I think Sony is about to go ham into video game movies.

The important part is to make successful movies. Forget what gamers want. They don‘t know shit.
 

kittoo

Cretinously credulous
Apologies to MGS fans but the story in these games is absolutely absurd and, dare I say, garbage. Its just so over the top and random people will be confused with the live action. Anyway there are like 10000 hours of cutscenes till MGS4 lol. Its the only game where I didnt even watch the ending fully because it was so goddamn long. People can watch those.

I would watch that trainwreck though.
 

VulcanRaven

Member
Uncharted did well at the box office so Sony might want to make more video game movies. I hope they green light it.
 
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yurinka

Member
Uncharted did well at the box office so Sony might want to make more video game movies. I hope they green light it.
It's already greenlighted, they are working on it. But are in very early stages, still working in the story etc.
 
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Jermare

Neo Member
Apologies to MGS fans but the story in these games is absolutely absurd and, dare I say, garbage. Its just so over the top and random people will be confused with the live action. Anyway there are like 10000 hours of cutscenes till MGS4 lol. Its the only game where I didnt even watch the ending fully because it was so goddamn long. People can watch those.

I would watch that trainwreck though.
There's room for absurd stories in film. It's just that most studios aren't brave enough to lean into that. A MGS movie doesn't have to go Scott Pilgrim or Deadpool levels of nonsensical, but a middle ground between that and something like Captain America: The Winter Soldier would be perfect.
 

CamHostage

Member
There's room for absurd stories in film. It's just that most studios aren't brave enough to lean into that. A MGS movie doesn't have to go Scott Pilgrim or Deadpool levels of nonsensical, but a middle ground between that and something like Captain America: The Winter Soldier would be perfect.

And the director is Jordan Vogt-Roberts, who did Kong: Skull Island (one of the writers on MGS was from there too,) and he seems to be willing to just fuck around and show awesome stuff happening for the sake of it being seen, with tongue in cheek while still being serious and weird about the realities of the subject matter.

There's not a lot of pedigree there overall (and somehow this guy is also involved in a Gundam show, which has me nervous that Hollywood is just turning to him for anything with a 60-foot walking chaos-maker no matter the story,) but the way Vogt-Roberts talks about "these characters that are walking, talking ideologies" and how he sees Kojima as kind of a punk rock designer has me confident that he understands the material, it just remains to be seen if he can actually accomplish it.

 
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SirTerry-T

Member
And the director is Jordan Vogt-Roberts, who did Kong: Skull Island (one of the writers on MGS was from there too,) and he seems to be willing to just fuck around and show awesome stuff happening for the sake of it being seen, with tongue in cheek while still being serious and weird about the realities of the subject matter.

There's not a lot of pedigree there overall (and somehow this guy is also involved in a Gundam show, which has me nervous that Hollywood is just turning to him for anything with a 60-foot walking chaos-maker no matter the story,) but the way Vogt-Roberts talks about "these characters that are walking, talking ideologies" and how he sees Kojima as kind of a punk rock designer has me confident that he understands the material, it just remains to be seen if he can actually accomplish it.

He better not fuck up Gundam. Done right, it could be Full Metal Jacket with mobile suits.

He can do what he wants with MGS ...
 

UnNamed

18+ Member
This is not a good sign. Usually studios announces actors after the pre-production, not before, and pre-production takes time. So probably Isaac could not be Snake because other contracts.

But everything in this story looks amateurish. Last time I've seen something similar was the Evangelion movie with Weta: they just had some artwork and nothing else, it was 2007 and the movie is probably still in the pre-pre-production fase.
 
Ah yeah, that worked so well for the vast majority of Hollywood's videogame movie adaptations.... *cough*
No one in their right mind would make videogame adaptations based on games with gamers in mind.
That's already set to failure.

Also, there's plenty of videogame to movies adaptations that were hits.

Everyone was laughing at Tom Holland as Nathan Drake and the movie is on its way to become the biggest videogame to movie adaptation at the BO domestically.

There's gamers still saying on twitter, youtube, etc that Nathan Fillion would be an even bigger hit and i can only just laugh, lmao.
 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
I want the Wachowskis to do a Metal Gear movie. With Guillermo Del Toro in charge of visuals. And Denzel Washington playing Snake.
 

lh032

I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
No one in their right mind would make videogame adaptations based on games with gamers in mind.
That's already set to failure.

Also, there's plenty of videogame to movies adaptations that were hits.

Everyone was laughing at Tom Holland as Nathan Drake and the movie is on its way to become the biggest videogame to movie adaptation at the BO domestically.

There's gamers still saying on twitter, youtube, etc that Nathan Fillion would be an even bigger hit and i can only just laugh, lmao.
yea true.

You need bigger star for these movies.

Casuals out there dont give a shit about nathan fillion.
 
No one in their right mind would make videogame adaptations based on games with gamers in mind.
That's already set to failure.

Also, there's plenty of videogame to movies adaptations that were hits.
This comes off like someone who hasn't actually paid attention to which of those movies did well and which bombed, or the behind-the-scenes developments of those movies.
Hint: There's a reason it took Nintendo 30 years to try a Super Mario Bros. movie again.
There's a reason Sonic had a delay-causing character redesign for his movie.
There's a reason recent Mortal Kombat movies are in a continuity reboot rather than sequels to the 1990's trilogy.
There's a reason a reason that outside a few outliers, most of what we'd consider "videogame to movie adaptations there were hits" started happening in only the past 5-10 years, in spite of attempts dating back to the early 1990's.
And last but not least, there's a reason no videogame-based movie has ever won an Oscar, in an era where nerd properties like western comics and anime have by now long made their mark.

And it's certainly not because any of these were too close to the source material, because quite frankly, there's been no Hollywood movie that's treated a video game's source material with that high an amount of reverence yet.
 
This comes off like someone who hasn't actually paid attention to which of those movies did well and which bombed, or the behind-the-scenes developments of those movies.
Hint: There's a reason it took Nintendo 30 years to try a Super Mario Bros. movie again.
There's a reason Sonic had a delay-causing character redesign for his movie.
There's a reason recent Mortal Kombat movies are in a continuity reboot rather than sequels to the 1990's trilogy.
There's a reason a reason that outside a few outliers, most of what we'd consider "videogame to movie adaptations there were hits" started happening in only the past 5-10 years, in spite of attempts dating back to the early 1990's.
And last but not least, there's a reason no videogame-based movie has ever won an Oscar, in an era where nerd properties like western comics and anime have by now long made their mark.

And it's certainly not because any of these were too close to the source material, because quite frankly, there's been no Hollywood movie that's treated a video game's source material with that high an amount of reverence yet.
Why would a movie that's a videogame adaptation ever win an oscar? (like that would be a huge compliment in 2022 anyway)
Don't you get that if you actually want the movies to be close to the source material (so based directly on the games) that's never happening?

That's literally the point of my previous post...

Resident Evil movies suck...but they had to stay away from the source material to at least work. They did 6 of them and all were huge hits.

Look at Angelina Jolie's Tomb Raider. It wasn't much different. Those movies worked (specially the first one) because they stayed away from the source material. That movie was only recently surpassed at the BO domestically (and not even counting with inflation).
They are having much more trouble in doing a sequel for the new timeline...and guess what they are doing? an almost direct adaptation from the games. The movie barely broke even and it was boring as hell. That's what you get when you try so hard to do a watchable videogame.

Sonic had the character design altered...that's all. But that's because it didn't look like Sonic. It would be like making Lara Croft a blonde for no reason. The movie itself didn't change due to criticism. It was a character design change only.

Games and movies are different mediums for a reason and if you try to have too much of one into the other, it'll turn out to be crap.

I actually have a feeling TLOU TV show COULD break that "no awards" curse you talk about since the game itself was all about people and how they interact with each other in a post apocalyptic world. If they handle that right, with the team working on it, they could have an award winning show. But even them are altering stuff in there for it to work...
 
Why would a movie that's a videogame adaptation ever win an oscar? (like that would be a huge compliment in 2022 anyway)
Don't you get that if you actually want the movies to be close to the source material (so based directly on the games) that's never happening?

That's literally the point of my previous post...

Resident Evil movies suck...but they had to stay away from the source material to at least work. They did 6 of them and all were huge hits.

Look at Angelina Jolie's Tomb Raider. It wasn't much different. Those movies worked (specially the first one) because they stayed away from the source material. That movie was only recently surpassed at the BO domestically (and not even counting with inflation).
They are having much more trouble in doing a sequel for the new timeline...and guess what they are doing? an almost direct adaptation from the games. The movie barely broke even and it was boring as hell. That's what you get when you try so hard to do a watchable videogame.

Sonic had the character design altered...that's all. But that's because it didn't look like Sonic. It would be like making Lara Croft a blonde for no reason. The movie itself didn't change due to criticism. It was a character design change only.

Games and movies are different mediums for a reason and if you try to have too much of one into the other, it'll turn out to be crap.

I actually have a feeling TLOU TV show COULD break that "no awards" curse you talk about since the game itself was all about people and how they interact with each other in a post apocalyptic world. If they handle that right, with the team working on it, they could have an award winning show. But even them are altering stuff in there for it to work...

Holy heck there are so many things wrong with this post it's absurd.

To begin with, your top "question" sounds exactly like the crap Comic book fans had to deal with before Batman 1989. Literally just sounding close-minded for the sake of being close-minded.

Then, the assertion that RE "had to stay away from the source material to at least work" has little to support it. Capcom's released 3 3D animated films of RE that take place in the game canon in spite of a lack of any Hollywood backing for those. I don't exactly know what the quality of those movies are, but the fact that they are a trilogy tells me enough about their perceived success.

Also, you're comparing an adaptation of 1996 Tomb Raider games to an adaptation of the 2013 Tomb Raider games. That's effectively apples and oranges in regards to which source material they are adapting to begin with. I'd argue based on what I know that Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) is closer to it's source material (That being the 1996-2000 era Tomb Raider games) than many of the other Hollywood adaptations referenced in this discussion.
Furthermore, both movies had extremely similar box office numbers ($274,xxx,xxx), so trying to say that one did badly and the other well based off that revenue alone is a false narrative. If anything, if you're correct about the faithfulness to the source material of Tomb Raider (2018), then that movie works against your narrative based on those numbers.
 
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