OXM: 8 Xbox One myths addressed

[shinobi602]

In June I wrote a little feature about some of the more persistent and malignant Xbox One myths, following a troublesome E3 for the platform. Alas, Microsoft hasn't nailed down the message just yet - hence this follow-up, which revisits a few of the usual suspects and hopefully addresses more recent controversies.

There's a lot written under each bullet point if you want to read further: OXM

• 1. Kinect will secretly gather data about you
  [*]2. Xbox One can't do "true 1080p gaming"
  [*]3. Microsoft will sell the Xbox One without Kinect
  [*]4. Microsoft doesn't have any real exclusives or studios
  [*]5. Microsoft will sneakily bring back Xbox One's DRM
  [*]6. There are manufacturing problems
  [*]7. IllumiRoom is down for release on Xbox One
  [*]8. Microsoft doesn't care about independent developers

 

[jwk94]

2. Xbox One can't do "true 1080p gaming"

A response to CBOAT?

 

[NoirVisage]

3. Microsoft will sell the Xbox One without Kinect

time will certainly tell

 

[Zen]

It's like watching Fox News man the damage control stations.

 

[Dragon]

1. true
2. true
3. eventually true
4. list warz
5. false
6. true
7. who cares
8. true

 

[ThisWreckage]

If OXM is having to do an article like this for their readers you know Microsoft has royally fucked up.

 

[Sethos]

Nothing on the yield problems?

 

[Impeccable]

If OXM is having to do an article like this for their readers you know Microsoft has royally fucked up.

Yeah, holy shit.

 

[Mithos]

time will certainly tell

1. Kinect will secretly gather data about you
3. Microsoft will sell the Xbox One without Kinect
5. Microsoft will sneakily bring back Xbox One's DRM

On all these time will certainly tell.

 

[DBT85]

2. Xbox One can't do "true 1080p gaming"

A response to CBOAT?

No, just the general tone that we are hearing that things are 720-900p instead of 1080. Buttocks has nothing to do with it I imagine.

I have to say after reading the article it wasn't as much a walled defence of things as I expected. Though I would not have labelled the first party as fearsome.

 

[hawk2025]

Wow.

The fact that this article exists is the culmination of everything that's happened since the reveal. What a clusterfuck.

 

[Tobor]

#3 is a stone cold lock. Could be as early as this spring.

 

[kitschykitty]

whether of nor this is all accurate this'll just be shrugged off since who is going to trust Official Xbox Magazine to be critical of their namesake regardless of if there is a direct connection to microsoft.

 

[Hoo-doo]

3. Microsoft will sell the Xbox One without Kinect.

Sweet. The temptation on getting it at launch is even less now. Why not wait for the cheaper version without the paperweight.

Edit: i'm dumb.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

The Sony viral marketers have really done a number on distorting MS' message. They've been doing an exceptional job, and MS hasn't been helping themselves out either. A perfect storm of marketing work.

 

[Eggbok]

DRM removed via mandatory release day patch.
Returns as minor updates over time. SOPA XBONE RETURNS
Hmm.

 

[GutsOfThor]

If OXM is having to do an article like this for their readers you know Microsoft has royally fucked up.

First thought that popped into my head. Xbone is fucked before it even gets out the door.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Gonna read this. (edit: with an open mind)

2. Xbox One can't do "true 1080p gaming"

A response to CBOAT?

Many were saying this...

 

[3rdamention]

I cannot believe they did this, or even had to do this. That is crazy. If I look at the competition, what types of Myths are there at this point? Honestly, I cannot think of any major Myths of the PS4 that need to be explained.



I dont blame this on the Xbox One, That says so much about Microsoft's PR.





Also, the Selling Xbox One without Kinect section could come back and bite them in the rear in the future.

 

[Insane Metal]

They are trying hard huh... MS's decisions have really hurt their image.

 

[bigbaldwolf86]

Nothing on the yield problems?

I think number 6 pretty much covers that

 

[Jack cw]

LOL this is getting WiiU conspiracy levels...

 

[BigDug13]

Sweet. The temptation on getting it at launch is even less now. Why not wait for the cheaper version without the paperweight.

Umm. This is a list of myths, not facts.

They're saying it's a myth that a kinectless XBO will come out.

 

[S¡mon]

What's up with OP suddenly posting multiple 'positive' Xbox One threads?

Nothing wrong with being positive, but it's suspicious.

 

[infinityBCRT]

Sweet. The temptation on getting it at launch is even less now. Why not wait for the cheaper version without the paperweight.

I think you're reading the list wrong. The list is saying what is false.

 

[Visualante2]

Privacy is my #1 concern with the Xbox and privacy groups will be having a field day with it, especially how Skype works on it when it comes out. It won't take long for the truth to come out.

Seems like the only thing that has a shorter shelf than Microsoft's policies is their executives. I don't see how we can trust anything they say.

 

[TimeEffect]

It really would be something if MS makes Kinect-less units down the line.

 

[Xer0]

The fact that this article even exists is a problem, by itself.

 

[rvy]

It's like watching Fox News man the damage control stations.

LMAO. Yes. I did think this before I entered actually.

When your official mag needs to dispell myths about your latest hardware, you done be in deep shit.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Umm. This is a list of myths, not facts.

They're saying it's a myth that a kinectless XBO will come out.

Aww. My own fault for jumping to conclusions. My bad!

I still say it will happen though, it's guaranteed.

 

[ViciousDS]

If OXM is having to do an article like this for their readers you know Microsoft has royally fucked up.

.

 

[Aostia]

If OXM is having to do an article like this for their readers you know Microsoft has royally fucked up.

I thought that too...

 

[TechnicPuppet]

What's up with OP suddenly posting multiple 'positive' Xbox One threads?

Nothing wrong with being positive, but it's suspicious.

It's not suspicious at all and I don't think I have ever seen a positive XB1 thread. You think this is a positive thread?

shinobi602 posts a lot of the interesting articles on this site and he quite clearly posts whatever he finds whether good or bad for whatever company.

 

[Milennia]

Cboat specifically said that forza was an exception to the rule, regarding 2.

 

[ethomaz]

Seems like no single point really addressed.

Mostly MAYBE.

 

[Surface of Me]

1. true
2. true
3. eventually true
4. list warz
5. false
6. true
7. who cares
8. true

Tell me future lottery numbers, one who can see into the future.

 

[jet1911]

time will certainly tell

I have a feeling they'll drop the price before dropping Kinect.

 

[dmr87]

If OXM is having to do an article like this for their readers you know Microsoft has royally fucked up.

Indeed.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

What's up with OP suddenly posting multiple 'positive' Xbox One threads?

Nothing wrong with being positive, but it's suspicious.

A defensive list attempting to correct common misconceptions is not necessarily positive X1 news. As many have already pointed out, the fact that this list exists is evidence of the weak position MS are in. It mirrors what was happening to Sony back in 2006.

btw, isn't your avatar suspicious by your own standard?

 

[Norml]

2. Xbox One can't do "true 1080p gaming"

A response to CBOAT?

Looking at Skeff's post it can,but not with deferred engines?

1080p framebuffer using forward rendering and no AA at 32 bits per pixel would be ~24mb IIRC, however using deferred rendering which is far more likely would put it at the total of 2073600 pixels so at differing BPP(Bytes per pixel) we would get:

16 BPP: 31.64mb
20 BPP: 39.55mb
24 BPP: 47.46mb
28 BPP: 55.37mb
32 BPP: 63.28mb

As a reference BF3 (1080p on PC) is 20BPP and KZ:SF is 24BPP both without AA. I can't imagine Next Gen going any lower than 16BPP.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86115517&postcount=8067

 

[smurfx]

the answer to number 6 is terrible.

 

[Tobor]

The Sony viral marketers have really done a number on distorting MS' message. They've been doing an exceptional job, and MS hasn't been helping themselves out either. A perfect storm of marketing work.

I know Mattrick and Major Nelson did a terrible job, but calling them Sony viral marketers is a little harsh.

 

[Sethos]

I think number 6 pretty much covers that

Yeah, guess you are right. I had it in my mind there was other manufacturing problems. In any case it was more of a CBOAT joke, because we all know everything is going to be PR spin anyway. Localization issues, what a load of crud.

 

[Guymelef]

What's up with OP suddenly posting multiple 'positive' Xbox One threads?

Nothing wrong with being positive, but it's suspicious.

I think shinobi602 is one of the most impartial hyperactive users here.

 

[Red Mage]

OXM? More like FUD.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

I know Mattrick and Major Nelson did a terrible job, but calling them Sony viral marketers is a little harsh.

yuk yuk yuk At this point they very well could have been with how much damage Mattrick did. According to us, at least - the real proof will be when anyone can get their hands on it.

 

[Patryn]

This remains a legitimate concern, in light of revelations about the National Security Association's activities in the US, but sturdy safeguards appear to be in place.

"National Security Association"?

Really?

 

[Kacho]

OXM on damage control duty. lol

 

[hawk2025]

the answer to number 6 is terrible.

Look! A console in a box!

And some people playing it!

 

[rain elbows]

My favorite part of this article is the multiple references to comments made by MS employees as some irrefutible proof of sonething happening or not happening. The whole reason this article was written was because MS has changed their policies and messaging. Why should we put any weight in what they say now?