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Pachter: Sony in good position to buy WB
- Thread starter Dr. Kitty Muffins
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Pachter is just terrible at this, isn't he?
VincentMatts
Member
If MS didnt buy them, its because it wasnt worth it. You dont own any of the IPs other than Mortal kombat. Thats why they focused on Bethesda. They own those IPs now.
But this is right up sonys alley. Not actually owning the superhero but making it seem like they do. Sony fans are gonna love it.
But this is right up sonys alley. Not actually owning the superhero but making it seem like they do. Sony fans are gonna love it.
oldergamer
Member
lol I dunno why patcher said this, but it makes no sense. Do you really think Sony could outbid MS on this? Sony wasn't even in the running when they were up for sale recently. why would they be in the future. Also pretty sure warner would not want to license to Sony considering they already own the most popular marvel character license. This sounds like fanboy dreams from patcher
oldergamer
Member
Pretty sure MS didn't switch focus and were in talks to purchase both at the same time. It wasn't that they decided to purchase Bethesda because Warner took themselves off the market.
Bryank75
Banned
Guess again..
Sony Cash on Hand 2006-2020 | SNE
Sony cash on hand from 2006 to 2020. Cash on hand can be defined as cash deposits at financial institutions that can immediately be withdrawn at any time, and investments maturing in one year or less that are highly liquid and therefore regarded as cash equivalents and reported with or near cash...
www.macrotrends.net
Maybe you were looking at Sony Financial Holdings, their banking subsidiary!?
SilentUser
Member
To be honest, I'm not really a big fan of WB IPs except for Mortal Kombat.
Bryank75
Banned
Their upcoming IP's don't look that great TBH...a far cry from the Arkham Series.
I think the pivot towards GAAS was really a bad call for them.
Astral Dog
Member
Yeah, it would be a shame if such mass market ips were limited to only one console, i understand why it happens but it sucks for gamers
Spider Man was an exception as Sony payed for that game, but all superhero games except for Avengers on PS
I mean its alright when its a new ip or a game that otherwise wouldn't get made without a publisher but such aggressive takeovers i can't support
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Bryank75
Banned
Sony could easily go to Disney and say.... 'you're doing nothing with Wolverine or Doctor Doom or Silver Surfer' , we would like to adapt those into exclusive games and give you a %.Yeah, it would be a shame if such mass market ips were limited to only one console, i understand why it happens but it sucks for gamers
Spider Man was an exception as Sony payed for that game, but all superhero games except for Avengers on PS
Personally I think ND could really add that misery very efficiently to a Logan game.
Tallahassee
Member
Microsoft enter the negotiation and buys both Sony and WB.
Illo
Member
Just seems like a bad acquisition for Sony specifically, but a good acquisition for Xbox.
Sony needs to focus on Japanese companies like Square Enix, Konami and Capcom. Those are the acquisition that will hold the most weight to its player base and would help secure their hometurf in Japan from competition.
Sony needs to focus on Japanese companies like Square Enix, Konami and Capcom. Those are the acquisition that will hold the most weight to its player base and would help secure their hometurf in Japan from competition.
Derktron
Banned
They should just continue getting deals with Disney to get more Marvel games at this point.
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Derktron
Banned
He's gotten one thing right. A prediction he made is somewhat true.
AgentP
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So MS will buy e
So they own every developer for sale, including past, present and future deals? They own Insomniac too right? How does this work?
So they own every developer for sale, including past, present and future deals? They own Insomniac too right? How does this work?
LisaMariaMartin
Banned
Sony can't afford anything beyond timed exclusives. Otherwise they would have bought Square a looong time ago.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
I thought this guy was full of BS? I mean in the other thread everyone was laughing it at him saying he's never right.
I guess if you throw enough stuff at the wall, something will stick, right?
I guess if you throw enough stuff at the wall, something will stick, right?
VincentMatts
Member
You just described his actual job.
Citation needed
Kdad
Member
You dont need the cash to buy another company...debt financing (money is cheap right now) and stock swaps can be used to facilitate a purchase. Also, didn't they say they had approx 9.5 billion on hand in May (as of March numbers) as well as committed bank lines of another 5.5 billion? They burned through 5 billion in 5 months? https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-...ration-sne-q4-2019-earnings-call-transcr.aspx
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diffusionx
Gold Member
The amount of cash they have in the bank is ultimately irrelevant - if they want to make a deal they can find a way to do it. See Nvidia buying ARM for $40 billion.
That said - they shouldn't make that deal at the prices being floated. I thought that $7.5B for Bethesda was a stretch, but in the end, relatively reasonable. But WB for $4.5B or whatever they tried to sell at is really overvalued. It's probably why it didn't sell in the first place.
That said - they shouldn't make that deal at the prices being floated. I thought that $7.5B for Bethesda was a stretch, but in the end, relatively reasonable. But WB for $4.5B or whatever they tried to sell at is really overvalued. It's probably why it didn't sell in the first place.
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Danteyke223
Member
I wish Sony or MS would buy their back catalog and make a new F.E.A.R. game. Give it a reboot where every entry would deal with a different paranormal or interdimensional force, rather spoky ghost girl and clones.
Also give me my Condemned Criminal Origins you HACKS
Also give me my Condemned Criminal Origins you HACKS
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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MrFunSocks
Banned
They only got Spider man because of the movie license though. It's no coincidence that Sony let them use Spiderman in their movies around the same time that Sony get an exclusive spider man game. Anyone spewing the PR of they were allowed to choose whichever character they wanted has drunk too much kool aid.
Oddvintagechap
Member
4 Billion for Mortal Combat is stupid for Sony. 4 Billion for all WB iP gaming rights is even stupider for WB.
Sony is better off buying Capcom, Konami and Sega from Sammy. Thats probably less than Zenimax or WB. Konami and Sega probably would just be a iP buy. Sega just to get Sonic as a mascot and make movies with.
Sony is better off buying Capcom, Konami and Sega from Sammy. Thats probably less than Zenimax or WB. Konami and Sega probably would just be a iP buy. Sega just to get Sonic as a mascot and make movies with.
Yoboman
Member
I honestly don't think itd go down well if Sony just bought up 75% of the third party industry in Japan like that
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
If they bought Sega, I would fold Sony's Japanese teams into Sega's Japanese teams in an effort to make better studios.
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Oddvintagechap
Member
Sega is basically just Sonic. Sony would just be buying pre-sammy iP. Sammy can even keep Yakuza and its studio. Release it under Atlus games. Konami would also be a iP buy. They would live out their days as a casino company spitting out Football PES games. They arent 75% of the third party market.
NXGamer
Member
I am so glad many in these threads do not have ANY business sense. Pachter himself seems to throw many elements at the wall often.
Buy-outs, acquisitions etc are a HUGE deal with years of litigation, this why the Zenimax -MS deal will not complete until 2021. This all takes time and was likely in discussion for a year or so before.
The entire "details" of the deal are the big part, who gets paid, IP ownership, Current contractual obligations, 3rd parties, TUPE etc etc. Up until these are signed nothing is known and why MS waited to announce until a hand-shake 'In-principal' deal was agreed.
Sony would know, any investors would have known. They are not going to Buy WB or any other company based on this news, all of a sudden, business does not pivot like that are year to year/ qtr to qtr budgeting.
According to some MS can just buy a company without regret at the drop of a hat. No matter how much you have, you cannot buy everything. Otherwise Apple/Amazon/ Google would own the world alongside MS.
Buy-outs, acquisitions etc are a HUGE deal with years of litigation, this why the Zenimax -MS deal will not complete until 2021. This all takes time and was likely in discussion for a year or so before.
The entire "details" of the deal are the big part, who gets paid, IP ownership, Current contractual obligations, 3rd parties, TUPE etc etc. Up until these are signed nothing is known and why MS waited to announce until a hand-shake 'In-principal' deal was agreed.
Sony would know, any investors would have known. They are not going to Buy WB or any other company based on this news, all of a sudden, business does not pivot like that are year to year/ qtr to qtr budgeting.
According to some MS can just buy a company without regret at the drop of a hat. No matter how much you have, you cannot buy everything. Otherwise Apple/Amazon/ Google would own the world alongside MS.
