At best it's an extra 20% of sales from digital as that's what most market reports say is usually the coverage for AAA games.
Still would leave Halo 5 with a poor debut here at like 180k overall.
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PAL Charts - Week 44, 2015
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At best it's an extra 20% of sales from digital as that's what most market reports say is usually the coverage for AAA games.
Still would leave Halo 5 with a poor debut here at like 180k overall.
Halo is supposed to be a system seller, it's one of MS's top titles
It's the worst opening of any Halo that wasn't a re-release. It's not even good for the install base, Titanfall opened with only 25k less with a much smaller install base and as a brand new IP.
Katana_Strikes
Member
It's not a lot of copies in context. Which is where you have to look at it.
Why would they spin? They can't give numbers and this gives as a good ball park. Where's the spin here?
Die Squirrel Die
Member
I imagine it's a combination of things alongside the MCC issues. Increased competition in the genre, franchise fatigue, no longer being the leading core console.
Right, here's the breakdown of bundles that were available in order of release.
500GB with Ass Creed, Watch Dogs and Uncharted: £299.99 with £20 of Argos vouchers
1TB console with Ass Creed, Watch Dogs, Uncharted, and a PSTV(!!!) £319.99 @ Co-Op Electrical
500GB with Ass Creed and Watch Dogs £249.99 @ Boss Deals
500GB with Ass Creed, Watch Dogs, Uncharted, Killzone & 3 months Now TV £299.99 @ Game
Not included in this week, but just stareted and now Co-Op is sold out:
1TB with Ass Creed, Watchdogs, Uncharted & PSTV £329.99 @ Argos
500GB with Ass Creed, Watch Dogs and Uncharted: £299.99 with £20 of Argos vouchers
1TB console with Ass Creed, Watch Dogs, Uncharted, and a PSTV(!!!) £319.99 @ Co-Op Electrical
500GB with Ass Creed and Watch Dogs £249.99 @ Boss Deals
500GB with Ass Creed, Watch Dogs, Uncharted, Killzone & 3 months Now TV £299.99 @ Game
Not included in this week, but just stareted and now Co-Op is sold out:
1TB with Ass Creed, Watchdogs, Uncharted & PSTV £329.99 @ Argos
Still waiting for 2 mil. announcement.
chromatic9
Member
Yeah, I don't see digital suddenly picking up the slack out of nowhere. Also I've seen Halo 5 being used in many FIFA 16 bundles and other bundles. As we're still not far into this gen, some of it's sales will be bundles more than previous installments.
Is that a joke I don't understand? Sale? Surely you mean sell?
Yeah damn :/
funkystudent
Member
Maybe things happened. Including that.
Halo has been on the decline since Halo 3 and then rise of COD afterwards. MCC being a mess didnt help. MS doing almost yearly Halo releases watering down the brands power as well as Halo 4 MP not grabbing people. etc...
Yeah, was kinda expecting it this week.
Katana_Strikes
Member
The Halo release definitely felt low key. My store didn't do a midnight launch for it, there was no buzz or rush to buy (not many more than were buying AC the week prior) and no chatter between work colleagues or much fuss on FB in my circle. So whilst the numbers are low it really shouldn't be a surprise to see however it still kinda is because I've been at Halo launches last gen which were completely consumed by hype and excitement.
secondspace
Member
It's £45, so better than a lot of other games on download and the same ballpark as shops. It still looks bad though, although that shouldn't be a huge surprise after the last couple of games.
The only reason I mentioned it is because I've seen various people do this.
I wonder if the release of BO3 this week had an impact on the sales of Halo 5.
It's the lowest debuting mainline Halo, selling 50k less copies than ODST.
I'm sure expectations were at least a tad higher than that. But like i've said before, Halo 5 had a rather tepid launch with barely any buzz from what I could tell.
ShogunDarius
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With how MCC came out last year, I'm not surprised this happened, hopefully MS will stop relying on a few key franchise names (Halo. Forza, Fable etc) to keep them up and invest more heavily in new ip, which they should have done years ago.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Divinity bombed really fucking hard. Really hard.
Dumb release date.
Dumb release date.
Steverulez
Member
Ms have 4 new IPs due next year: scalebound, sea of thieves, quantum break and recore.
They've also launch a pretty decent number of new ips on Xbox already: ryse, sunset overdrive, ori as well as some other stuff
This argument doesn't work when you actually look at their line-up
chromatic9
Member
We've seen some big drops though compared to previous titles like Forza, Assassins Creed Syndicate and now Halo. Has it been around 50% for all three?
Breakfast at Noon
Member
Wait a minute..
Syndicate is out o.0
Syndicate is out o.0
ShogunDarius
Member
like I said, should have happened years ago, the last years of the 360 shows how little first party they had. They fell back on the staples which now includes Gears, when they should have invested in new then. Now could be too late for the long run.
Price dropped bundles. Look at that Watch Dogs rise, it's not because "Oh, I'll try that Watch Dogs game."
1st Course
Member
Seems like Halo 4 did damage the franchise. No wonder MS didn't issue any PR.
I'm not really surprised by the low Halo sales. I don't see much hype for it outside of the internet, and none of my friends are talking about it. Most people I know got burned by the collection last year (as well as Halo 4 before that). It will still be a big and successful game for Microsoft, but I think they need to be careful considering it's their flagship franchise.
Acquiescence
Member
And Wasteland 2 didn't even enter the top 40. Doesn't seem like there's an audience for these types on games on consoles.
Steverulez
Member
Ms didn't issue their pr until the Tuesday after launch for halo 4 so we should wait a day on that
Bruno MB
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Well, this is just one example of how the media will report this week's Halo: 5 sales based on Chart-Track press release note. The way it is written it would seem that outselling Assassin's Creed: Syndicate by 50% is a great feat while mainline Halo titles have been selling in their first week way higher with the exception of Assassin's Creed III. And also there is the fact that Assassin's Creed: Syndicate had the worst debut in the series. And when it comes to comparing Halo 5 with other titles in the same series for a better context, they use a Halo remaster instead of recent mainline entries.
ShogunDarius
Member
i'd argue it was MCC that did that, never should have released in that state
I doubt they needed many sales to break even, and regardless they already moved a million copies on PC so they've got their money back tenfold already.
That reminds me. I still need to get this.
Last week Uncharted was at 74k and sold around 14.4k and if it dropped to 11k (25% drop) this week it should be close to 85k.. still far from 100k.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Batman I believe
From a business perspective SO, Ryse didn't really set the world on fire and probably won't be franchises. Ori is great, sold well and MS should scoop up Moon Studio. That said it's no replacement if Halo/Gears/Fable continue to disappoint (that said we should wait for US sales of Halo 5).
Next year: Scalebound is my most anticipated XB1 game, but it's Platinum and won't do the numbers MS needs. Recore is made by a studio that made IMO the worst Arkham game and creative is handled by Comcept, which is also very spotty. Sea of Thieves might go into closed beta in 2016 but I doubt it launches before 2017.
That leaves QB, which could be MS' Uncharted and I hope it is. I also think Halo will be Destiny-fied for its next installment and Fable 4 might already be in full production. At least I hope it is because Legends won't cut it.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Why isn't this listed on No. 37 ? It says No. 37 on the press release. Am I reading this wrong?
Acquiescence
Member
Has to be Fifa at a guess.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
Isn't it FIFA by a large margin?
i think we will have a new benchmark in PR now.. Number of step taken after the introduction of number of bullets fired and number of kills made.
