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PAX uninvites Colin Moriarty (PAX refuses refunds, Colin to refund 20 people out of own pocket)

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When it comes to the extreme right-wing I think most people figure out pretty quickly what they are dealing with. They are reasonably open about their views and not afraid to share them.

I don't think that smearing people who are normal as Nazis etc really helps the far-right as most people when encountering legitimate extreme right stuff are going to say "nah, I'm out". It makes the left look horrible but I do not think it helps the far-right.

They don't care that their actions may or may not inadvertently help ultra right-wing types because they honestly know that it won't.
"Centrists" are not a gateway to the far-right. Centrists are not "normalizing" far-right views.
These cunts already know that.

The biggest problem with centrists and people who are apolitical is that they are a threat to the extreme far-left.
This is because they allow people to see that there is a different and not extreme path.

Consider the reality of Colin's joke that started all this shit off. The effect of such a joke is just to say "ok guys we don't need to take this stuff SO seriously".
THAT is where the threat is. There is potential limiting of the power of the far left if people are allowed to say "meh, I am not taking this seriously".

Look at a place like ResetEra. They have an irrational hatred of anyone that doesn't toe the line. Why?
The easy answer is because it affects their ability to control people and exert power.

They CAN'T allow you to laugh and joke about things. Not because it could make people go far-right but because it would mean people realize "oh yeah, i don't actually have to care this much about all that stuff".

Dudes like Colin Moriarty show that you can say "it's not a big deal if the new Star Wars game has a white protagonist, I'm just going to enjoy the game" and then just go about your day. They do not want that.

They want an activist crowd, that thinks everything is super serious, so that when the call goes out they can rally the troops to put pressure on Developer X and Content Creator Y and Convention Organizer Z. It's why they hate AVGN and Videogame Dunky and Red Letter Media so on. Those dudes are too laid back and if you see them being laid back then you might think it's ok to be laid back too.

Their worst nightmare is a gaming community that says "I just want to enjoy games".
Perfectly put! Well said and I agree with this take.
 

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When it comes to the extreme right-wing I think most people figure out pretty quickly what they are dealing with. They are reasonably open about their views and not afraid to share them.

I don't think that smearing people who are normal as Nazis etc really helps the far-right as most people when encountering legitimate extreme right stuff are going to say "nah, I'm out". It makes the left look horrible but I do not think it helps the far-right.

They don't care that their actions may or may not inadvertently help ultra right-wing types because they honestly know that it won't.
"Centrists" are not a gateway to the far-right. Centrists are not "normalizing" far-right views.
These cunts already know that.

The biggest problem with centrists and people who are apolitical is that they are a threat to the extreme far-left.
This is because they allow people to see that there is a different and not extreme path.

Consider the reality of Colin's joke that started all this shit off. The effect of such a joke is just to say "ok guys we don't need to take this stuff SO seriously".
THAT is where the threat is. There is potential limiting of the power of the far left if people are allowed to say "meh, I am not taking this seriously".

Look at a place like ResetEra. They have an irrational hatred of anyone that doesn't toe the line. Why?
The easy answer is because it affects their ability to control people and exert power.

They CAN'T allow you to laugh and joke about things. Not because it could make people go far-right but because it would mean people realize "oh yeah, i don't actually have to care this much about all that stuff".

Dudes like Colin Moriarty show that you can say "it's not a big deal if the new Star Wars game has a white protagonist, I'm just going to enjoy the game" and then just go about your day. They do not want that.

They want an activist crowd, that thinks everything is super serious, so that when the call goes out they can rally the troops to put pressure on Developer X and Content Creator Y and Convention Organizer Z. It's why they hate AVGN and Videogame Dunky and Red Letter Media so on. Those dudes are too laid back and if you see them being laid back then you might think it's ok to be laid back too.

Their worst nightmare is a gaming community that says "I just want to enjoy games".
What a post. Well said.
 

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What is there to own up to?
For making a silly joke that offended people.

When has apologizing ever accomplished anything?
Many times it's helped. Lets not get extreme like many on the internet and act like apologizing has never helped.

No reason to apologize as nothing was wrong with the joke. If you (royal you) were offended by it or thought he deserved to apologize because of it, I would suggest you seek help.
If he cared more about staying in business with his friends, then he would have apologized. But if his pride meant more to him than that, then so be it. No need to apologize and he didn't care about those business relationships, plus his actual friendship.

At the very least we all should be able to admit it was an unnecessary joke that he knew would ruffle some feathers.
 

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For making a silly joke that offended people.



Many times it's helped. Lets not get extreme like many on the internet and act like apologizing has never helped.



If he cared more about staying in business with his friends, then he would have apologized. But if his pride meant more to him than that, then so be it. No need to apologize and he didn't care about those business relationships, plus his actual friendship.

At the very least we all should be able to admit it was an unnecessary joke that he knew would ruffle some feathers.
If his friends removed him for making such a joke, they were never truly his friends. They were nothing more than opportunistic leaches. The only people who were genuinely offended are those that are mental or those who wanted any excuse to throw him under the bus for having different political opinions.
 
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For making a silly joke that offended people.

At the very least we all should be able to admit it was an unnecessary joke that he knew would ruffle some feathers.
I don't really care about this whole situation, I mean, it's not ok, but at the same time it's just a dumb convention. However, this point of yours is ridiculous, someone, SOMEWHERE will take offense to something. If you live your life like that, you poor thing.

If someone gets offended by a silly joke that was done in good faith, then, well, sucks for them. No need to bend over for every chicken little and joyless person in this planet.
 
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For making a silly joke that offended people.



Many times it's helped. Lets not get extreme like many on the internet and act like apologizing has never helped.



If he cared more about staying in business with his friends, then he would have apologized. But if his pride meant more to him than that, then so be it. No need to apologize and he didn't care about those business relationships, plus his actual friendship.

At the very least we all should be able to admit it was an unnecessary joke that he knew would ruffle some feathers.
It's not his problem that people were offended. People can be offended about anything, it's not the responsibility of others to not offend people.

He did absolutely nothing wrong and there was no reason to apologize. He made a joke. If people were upset by it, that's their problem, not his.
 

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He made a peace and quiet joke when his girlfriend was out for the day.

None of the women in his life were offended, but the internet took upon themselves to get offended on their behalf.
Are you fucking serious. I didn't even remember what PAX was until OP made this thread but now goddamn are they assbackwards. In what city is this shit in?
 

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Can someone give me a brief summary so I don’t have to dig through 8 pages?
Colin and Chris Ray Gun were set to do a live show at PAX West and were approved for it, then they cancelled on him for no reason. They haven't given a reason have refused to refund the fans who paid to go out and see it.

People suspect it's because mentally ill bullies who don't like Colin for no reason pressure PAX into cancelling.

Basically it.
 
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He made a peace and quiet joke when his girlfriend was out for the day.

None of the women in his life were offended, but the internet took upon themselves to get offended on their behalf.
Haven't followed this thread. So this tweet was interpreted as offensive and that's why PAX ditched him?

Am I reading this right? A tweet 2.5 years ago?
 
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For making a silly joke that offended people.



Many times it's helped. Lets not get extreme like many on the internet and act like apologizing has never helped.



If he cared more about staying in business with his friends, then he would have apologized. But if his pride meant more to him than that, then so be it. No need to apologize and he didn't care about those business relationships, plus his actual friendship.

At the very least we all should be able to admit it was an unnecessary joke that he knew would ruffle some feathers.
 
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Haven't followed this thread. So this tweet was interpreted as offensive and that's why PAX ditched him?

Am I reading this right? A tweet 2.5 years ago?
No. People don't like him because essentially he doesn't tow the far left line that the majority of the video game and tech industry does.

And of course to the crazies, that makes him evil, because they lack the intellectual capacity for nuance and/or need to appear woke on social media so they have to attack him for woke points from the rest of the insane industry.

His political stances are lukewarm at best, quite moderate, but that isn't good enough so people attack him. He's been attacked for no reason whatsoever.
 
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You can skip to 41:13 where the video references a few studies that shows empirically that apologies not only don't work, but also end up hurting the person making the apology.

I would also like to add that apologies work if they are personal and in person. Apologizing to a mob is counterproductive as that mob is being offended for the sake of a group of people who did not ask for it and is not open to forgiveness in the first place. They just want to flex their authoritarian maliciousness for that rush of dopamine.
 

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Haven't followed this thread. So this tweet was interpreted as offensive and that's why PAX ditched him?

Am I reading this right? A tweet 2.5 years ago?
Unfortunately yeah. I haven’t really followed Colin but he’s gained a new fan in me for his refusal to apologize and calling PAX out on their bullshit.
 
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No. People don't like him because essentially he doesn't tow the far left line that the majority of the video game and tech industry does.

And of course to the crazies, that makes him evil, because they lack the intellectual capacity for nuance and/or need to appear woke on social media so they have to attack him for woke points from the rest of the insane industry.

His political stances are lukewarm at best, quite moderate, but that isn't good enough so people attack him. He's been attacked for no reason whatsoever.
Do you have examples of him being a moderate?

Just curious as I know who he is, but I don't follow him. I just remember him from doing game developer interviews here and there, and there is nothing political about them.
 

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I'll defend Colin a lot, not because I am a huge fan of him. I mean I like him and listen to his stuff, but I'm not a Colin die-hard, nor a die-hard of any video game personality in the industry really. But I defend him because people turning on him for making a joke on social media(a very 90s sitcom level joke at the absolute worst) at that, was one of the first things that really opened my eyes to how crazy people were in the video game industry and the left. Just seeing how mean people were to him over with and his good friends, like Greg who was his best friend and who Colin supported when he had cancer turned on him over something so innocuous, I just knew and felt that this wasn't right. There is something wrong here. We all have our instincts that tell us when something isn't right and reading how mean and nasty people were to him over some tiny joke it just blew my mind. And at that point I really decided to speak out against it whenever I get the opportunity. Because it is wrong. It's mean-spirited, it's hurtful.

And these people are such fucking hypocrites. The people who trashed him are the same fucking clowns who preach on and on about mental illness and how people's feelings are important and how depression needs to be taken seriously, and they don't stop to think for one second maybe they are the reason people kill themselves. Being harassed online by thousands for no reason, people telling you how terrible you are for a joke. I hate these people and I don't use that word lightly. They bring no good whatsoever with anything they do. They are a cancer.
 

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Do you have examples of him being a moderate?

Just curious as I know who he is, but I don't follow him. I just remember him from doing game developer interviews here and there, and there is nothing political about them.
He's for the legalization of drugs(often a left stance) he's pro choice(left stance), pro gay marriage(left stance), but he believes we should have stricter border security and it should be more difficult to become a US citizen(while also condemning the nasty things that have been going on at the border) and people in the industry will call him a Nazi for saying that.

One of his stances is also one that Jordan Peterson talks about a lot and that is the gender wage gap isn't what people think it is, and he gets killed for that and called a sexist.

He also takes issue with the white privilege stuff and argued once that Asian Americans do very well for themselves in America, and that makes him a racist to these people.

Nothing really extreme there. He doesn't have any "alt-right" beliefs at all. But he's painted in a negative light by crazy people.
 
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He's for the legalization of drugs(often a left stance) he's pro choice(left stance), pro gay marriage(left stance), but he believes we should have stricter border security and it should be more difficult to become a US citizen(while also condemning the nasty things that have been going on at the border) and people in the industry will call him a Nazi for saying that.

One of his stances is also one that Jordan Peterson talks about a lot and that is the gender wage gap isn't what people think it is, and he gets killed for that and called a sexist.

He also takes issue with the white privilege stuff and argued once that Asian Americans do very well for themselves in America, and that makes him a racist to these people.

Nothing really extreme there. He doesn't have any "alt-right" beliefs at all. But he's painted in a negative light by crazy people.
Interesting.

I guess if I was a game industry person, I'd get even less chance of going to PAX.

I agree with all what Colin said with exception of drugs which I think should be illegal..... even weed.

Things like casinos, weed shops, horse racing tracks etc.... are great for city coffers and tourists dicking around for fun, but they are a drain on the actual surrounding neighbourhoods.
 

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Interesting.

I guess if I was a game industry person, I'd get even less chance of going to PAX.

I agree with all what Colin said with exception of drugs which I think should be illegal..... even weed.

Things like casinos, weed shops, horse racing tracks etc.... are great for city coffers and tourists dicking around for fun, but they are a drain on the actual surrounding neighbourhoods.
I don't really think it takes an Einstein level brain to discern who are the bad people and who are the good ones in Colin's situation. I've heard him speak a lot over the years. He's just a nice person. For the amount of shit he gets, he really could be jaded and bitter, and he does have some bitterness in him, and frankly I don't blame him. But he keeps a good attitude and is generally a mild-mannered nice person. Objectively, if I have one criticism of Colin, it's that I think he can let people get to him too much sometimes and be overly sensitive, but then again I don't know how many nasty emails, letters DMs, and stuff he gets so he probably has every excuse to be so. It can wear on you. And all for no reason. I mean the guy is just being a regular person who gives his opinions and is mercilessly attacked for it. He must think wtf did I do wrong? Maybe question himself. But the answer is he did nothing wrong and people have gone nuts.

You read what is said about him and you see who the true "bad people" are. It's quite easy to tell. It's like Antifa calling Andy Ngo a terrible person... while beating the shit out of him and throwing shit out of him. It's easy to tell who the bad people are, you don't really need to dig deep there.

I bring up that specific example, because Colin was one of the first people to really speak out about how crazy Antifa was and he got a lot of shit for that too from those in the game industry. Called him a fascist. This was like 5+ years ago when I first heard of them and knew nothing about them, and man did he turn out to be right. They are a couple incidents away from being declared officially a terrorist organization at this point.
 
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For making a silly joke that offended people.

If he cared more about staying in business with his friends, then he would have apologized. But if his pride meant more to him than that, then so be it. No need to apologize and he didn't care about those business relationships, plus his actual friendship.

At the very least we all should be able to admit it was an unnecessary joke that he knew would ruffle some feathers.
You can't give offence. People can take offence. Nowadays we have people taking offence on behalf of the unoffended. If offence was something you were giving, then it would be universally insulting i.e. an insult. Someone, somewhere is going to take offence at the most banal aspects of modern life commentary. Who are the groups that should be protected? What are the topics that are taboo? Who should police those topics? Ironically, humour is one of the things that is all about the court of public opinion, pop cuture timing and audience.

You have the right to find something in poor taste, or even dislike a joke, but you do not have the authority or power to tell someone else to not laugh at something, or they are a bad human being for finding comedy in taboo topics.

Let's spin this round a bit - have you ever found a joke funny that someone else has taken offence at? Never? Do you think because certain religious types dislike the way Ned Flanders is portrayed then the creators of the Simpsons should apologise? Are you wrong for laughing or finding scenes such as carbon monoxide killing Rod and Todd being interpreted as speaking in tongues due to piety funny? Not much noise, yet Apu who is also a stereotype is extremely offensive, yet equally:


I also think you're conflating pride and principle. Principles should be the least movable aspect of your persona, they are core fabric of the morality of a person. Not too many of the sanctimonious or hypocritical nerds on the internet, (who simultaneously scream about covering up game characters while applauding the idea of #slutstream and cast side eye at the new mixer rules about age aware sexualised clothing) have any sort of principles.

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If he cared more about staying in business with his friends, then he would have apologized. But if his pride meant more to him than that, then so be it. No need to apologize and he didn't care about those business relationships, plus his actual friendship.

At the very least we all should be able to admit it was an unnecessary joke that he knew would ruffle some feathers.
Pretty weird that you're coming down on the person who did nothing wrong more than the people who put him in a position where he would have to choose between casually expressing himself and his job/friends. It's like you're flacking for them but they're undeniably in the wrong.

Also, I'm not sure if there's ever been a "necessary" joke in all of human existence and that certainly shouldn't be any standard someone has to hit for comedic expression. Extremely tame comedic expression; to the point where even you as someone who is criticizing him has to use the mildest derogatory language imaginable like "silly" or "unnecessary."
 

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I don't really care about this whole situation, I mean, it's not ok, but at the same time it's just a dumb convention. However, this point of yours is ridiculous, someone, SOMEWHERE will take offense to something. If you live your life like that, you poor thing.

If someone gets offended by a silly joke that was done in good faith, then, well, sucks for them. No need to bend over for every chicken little and joyless person in this planet.
He didn't have to bend over and apologize. But he's not entitled to stay in business with people that would have liked him to be the bigger person and own up to what he said. It cost nothing financially to say "I apologize for the joke I made on Twitter and I didn't mean any harm by it". Well maybe just a tiny bit of pride, but that's it.

I'm serious. People act like apologizing is the end of the world. I hate that Colin is get banned left and right from things games related. I loved his take on games, even though I hate his politics. I miss that dude, but it is what it is.

It's not his problem that people were offended. People can be offended about anything, it's not the responsibility of others to not offend people.

He did absolutely nothing wrong and there was no reason to apologize. He made a joke. If people were upset by it, that's their problem, not his.
And his friends did nothing wrong for getting out of the Colin Moriarty business. Clearly if he's the type of person that wants to fight tooth and nail to defend a joke that many didn't like then so be it. Plus the stuff he started saying afterward was worse to me personally. The way he started to play the victim was odd, all things considered.

Pretty weird that you're coming down on the person who did nothing wrong more than the people who put him in a position where he would have to choose between casually expressing himself and his job/friends. It's like you're flacking for them but they're undeniably in the wrong.

Also, I'm not sure if there's ever been a "necessary" joke in all of human existence and that certainly shouldn't be any standard someone has to hit for comedic expression. Extremely tame comedic expression; to the point where even you as someone who is criticizing him has to use the mildest derogatory language imaginable like "silly" or "unnecessary."
You are taking the side that he did nothing wrong. I disagree with that. We disagree with each other. I do think his joke was stupid personally. I don't think he's a terrible person for saying the joke though. A quick apology would have washed things over. In 3 days Twitter would have forgot all about the stupid joke and it wouldn't have mattered. It was Colin push back that made things worse in my opinion. And to this day I'm still not 100% sure it was a "Joke" to be honest with you.

And for reference, my favorite 3 comedians of all time are Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappell, and Chris Rock. All 3 of them have said some of the most offensive jokes in history and I laughed and loved it. Context matters. Colin never gave us the context of his Tweet, where the majority of the Kinda Funny fans understood immediately that it was a "joke" (mainly due to his politics).
 
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He had the audacity to not apologise after the faux outrage, an outrage which mainly started due to the misalignment of political views between him and the "mainstream" games media, not because of the contents of the joke.
 
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You've posted some pretty wild shit on this board, but this one takes the cake.

Why on earth would you apologise for something when:

A. The only people that were "upset" are the people who already hate you
B. You don't personally believe you did a thing wrong so the apology is completely fake
C. You're well aware that it's not going to make a difference to the idiots that are harassing you in the first place

Are you really that spineless that you'd just issue fake apologies left and right to keep everybody happy? Fuck that. It's like when Brandon Jones came on Colin's Last Stand, I like Brandon, but he legitimately said "an apology can never hurt". Yeah, it absolutely can when you don't mean it. It massively damages credibility and makes you look like a weasel. It's a dangerous life to live when Twitter of all things dictates what you say and how you say it.

Context? Do you seriously need every Tweet to read THIS IS A JOKE before the main content? You'd have to have some serious brain damage to think what he Tweeted wasn't a completely harmless throwaway dad joke.

The people who took Moriarty to the cleaners weren't actually offended by anything, they just hate him for his politics and were looking for any excuse to get rid of him. The women who claimed to be offended by the joke are the exact sort of women that go on tirades against men on a daily basis. The men getting offended on behalf of women didn't give two shits about the plethora of women that came out and said "guys it's obviously a joke stop getting so upset". They don't care, they just want him cancelled.
 

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Even if you disagree with him his arguments are always backed up with reasoning.
Hence why they hate him.

He's for the legalization of drugs(often a left stance) he's pro choice(left stance), pro gay marriage(left stance), but he believes we should have stricter border security and it should be more difficult to become a US citizen(while also condemning the nasty things that have been going on at the border) and people in the industry will call him a Nazi for saying that.

One of his stances is also one that Jordan Peterson talks about a lot and that is the gender wage gap isn't what people think it is, and he gets killed for that and called a sexist.

He also takes issue with the white privilege stuff and argued once that Asian Americans do very well for themselves in America, and that makes him a racist to these people.

Nothing really extreme there. He doesn't have any "alt-right" beliefs at all. But he's painted in a negative light by crazy people.
I think people consider him alt-right more due to the fact that he's been on more right-wing shows like Joe Rogan (even though I don't consider him right-wing at all, but okay). After the joke he made, he was under the spotlight and vilified ever since.
 
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You've posted some pretty wild shit on this board, but this one takes the cake.

Why on earth would you apologise for something when:

A. The only people that were "upset" are the people who already hate you
B. You don't personally believe you did a thing wrong so the apology is completely fake
C. You're well aware that it's not going to make a difference to the idiots that are harassing you in the first place

Are you really that spineless that you'd just issue fake apologies left and right to keep everybody happy? Fuck that. It's like when Brandon Jones came on Colin's Last Stand, I like Brandon, but he legitimately said "an apology can never hurt". Yeah, it absolutely can when you don't mean it. It massively damages credibility and makes you look like a weasel. It's a dangerous life to live when Twitter of all things dictates what you say and how you say it.

Context? Do you seriously need every Tweet to read THIS IS A JOKE before the main content? You'd have to have some serious brain damage to think what he Tweeted wasn't a completely harmless throwaway dad joke.

The people who took Moriarty to the cleaners weren't actually offended by anything, they just hate him for his politics and were looking for any excuse to get rid of him. The women who claimed to be offended by the joke are the exact sort of women that go on tirades against men on a daily basis. The men getting offended on behalf of women didn't give two shits about the plethora of women that came out and said "guys it's obviously a joke stop getting so upset". They don't care, they just want him cancelled.
You missed my point. I don't think he "HAS" to apologize at all. My point was "IF" he wanted to stay in business with his friends, then the best thing to do would be to apologize. He made the choice to stay true to himself, so the fallout from that ended up happening. And then he kept pushing his narrative (which is 100% okay), but it seems to be costing him gigs. This is all his choice and if he's okay with it, then cool. Again I want his libertarian views in my gaming world, but I wish it was balanced with some of the people on Kinda Funny because it would cause great conversation.

And it's not spineless to apologize for saying something that was seen as ill-timed and in bad taste. Stop being a hyper-sensitive internet dude that treats everything like it's the end of the world.
 

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You missed my point. I don't think he "HAS" to apologize at all. My point was "IF" he wanted to stay in business with his friends, then the best thing to do would be to apologize. He made the choice to stay true to himself, so the fallout from that ended up happening. And then he kept pushing his narrative (which is 100% okay), but it seems to be costing him gigs. This is all his choice and if he's okay with it, then cool. Again I want his libertarian views in my gaming world, but I wish it was balanced with some of the people on Kinda Funny because it would cause great conversation.

And it's not spineless to apologize for saying something that was seen as ill-timed and in bad taste. Stop being a hyper-sensitive internet dude that treats everything like it's the end of the world.
No, you just said "it would have helped" if he bent over and apologised for something he didn't believe he did. So, lied and completely sold out his beliefs. I don't believe anyone should ever sell out their beliefs in order to keep making money. If you think otherwise, so be it, I just think that's a colossally shitty attitude. Not to mention that because he chose not to sell out and stand by what he believes, he's actually making more money than before, so I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

Of course it's spineless, because it's only "seen as" those things by a tiny vocal minority of people who spend all day looking for things to get upset about over the internet. If you wanna enable those people to be scumbags, go ahead. Not me.

Stop being a hyper-sensitive internet dude that treats everything like it's the end of the world.
Do you not see the irony in you saying this..?
 

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Is this really all about that one lame dad joke?

The idea that he must apologise is more offensive than anything he said. If he wants to that’s his choice to make. People don’t get to dictate other’s behavior
 
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DragoonKain

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He didn't have to bend over and apologize. But he's not entitled to stay in business with people that would have liked him to be the bigger person and own up to what he said. It cost nothing financially to say "I apologize for the joke I made on Twitter and I didn't mean any harm by it". Well maybe just a tiny bit of pride, but that's it.



I'm serious. People act like apologizing is the end of the world. I hate that Colin is get banned left and right from things games related. I loved his take on games, even though I hate his politics. I miss that dude, but it is what it is.



And his friends did nothing wrong for getting out of the Colin Moriarty business. Clearly if he's the type of person that wants to fight tooth and nail to defend a joke that many didn't like then so be it. Plus the stuff he started saying afterward was worse to me personally. The way he started to play the victim was odd, all things considered.



You are taking the side that he did nothing wrong. I disagree with that. We disagree with each other. I do think his joke was stupid personally. I don't think he's a terrible person for saying the joke though. A quick apology would have washed things over. In 3 days Twitter would have forgot all about the stupid joke and it wouldn't have mattered. It was Colin push back that made things worse in my opinion. And to this day I'm still not 100% sure it was a "Joke" to be honest with you.

And for reference, my favorite 3 comedians of all time are Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappell, and Chris Rock. All 3 of them have said some of the most offensive jokes in history and I laughed and loved it. Context matters. Colin never gave us the context of his Tweet, where the majority of the Kinda Funny fans understood immediately that it was a "joke" (mainly due to his politics).
He left Kinda Funny he wasn’t forced out,
 

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Hence why they hate him.



I think people consider him alt-right more due to the fact that he's been on more right-wing shows like Joe Rogan (even though I don't consider him right-wing at all, but okay). After the joke he made, he was under the spotlight and vilified ever since.
One of my golden rules is anyone who considers Rogan alt right, I never respect anything they have to say about anything ever again. Joe Rogan is left leaning on most issues. People disingenuously mischaracterize him because he has people on his show that they don’t like(mostly for no reason, once again) and they can’t handle the fact that someone as huge as Rogan hasn’t “cancelled” these people.. in fact, the opposite, so they jump up and down and pout like little children who didn’t get their way and start name calling like 8 year olds. And the name calling they use for Rogan is “alt right.”

When you break it down, all this crazy left behavior really is, is childish. Seriously, I was thinking about it the other day, I find so many similarities with it to the way kids act when they’re 10.
 
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