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What if aliens have already infiltrated GAF? Who is human, and who isn’t!?’
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Pentagon official:: There's compelling evidence that we might not be alone
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bryo4321
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DunDunDunpachi
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Ixion
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The "Hudson Valley UFO" was regularly seen across the NY area throughout the 80s and early 90s, and therefore has thousands of witnesses, and it's one of the few cases that has never been officially debunked. It was always described as a U-shape of different colors that hovered relatively low to the ground and didn't make any sound whatsoever (and of course it would just disappear/zoom away after a few minutes). And the people who saw it close enough said those colors were the outer edge of a larger object. You'll find a whole bunch of similar pictures to the one below (obviously people weren't walking around with camera phones back then, so there weren't many videos):
In fact, my mother saw the Hudson Valley UFO while on the highway in the early 90s. She said everyone on the highway stopped and pulled over to look at it.
I read a whole book on this called Night Siege that was really fascinating:
There's a couple other really interesting aspects of this UFO that I recall....
One is that the "U-shape of colors" UFO has been spotted in the NY area actually as far back as 100 years. People have described it and drew it even back then.
Another really chilling aspect are the apparent abductions. A handful of people who saw the Hudson Valley UFO all described the same thing. They said they looked at the UFO and then when they looked at the clock they all said about an hour passed instead of just the few minutes of time they spent looking at the UFO. And then all of those same people said they had the same vivid dream soon after that of being taken up to the ship, seeing a bunch of "greys", and then one of the greys would waive a device over them and that's the last thing they all saw in the dream. And again, none of these people communicated with each other, so that's one hell of a chilling coincidence.
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Romulus
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If a new breed of chimps was discovered, do you think modern human society would try to "contact" them?
No, we'd set back and observe. We can tell by watching them at a distance they're far inferior to us. There's zero reason to contact them as equals.
And if beings are traveling here from other galaxies, we're in the same boat. We're likely less close to them than chimps and humans considering the logistical hurdles to travel lightyears to Earth.
In the same way modern society would never intrude on a new species of ape, they'll never do the same to us. We might see them in the sky, but we'll likely never understand what they are or their technology. Just like those apes might catch glimpses of scientists' equipment, cameras, laptops etc. We have no idea how they're breaking these laws of physics, which are tracked on radar.
I just hope we never run into the equivalent of poachers, but that's me thinking in a human way outside of the example. Lol
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MilkyJoe
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Because 1 in 4 billion is improbable odds.
PS extraterrestrial life doesn't necessarily mean flying saucers, algae is enough.
Phunkydiabetic
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DrJohnGalt
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Nobody has posted this guy yet? I'm disappointed, GAF.
Romulus
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Another point in terms of odds. We're a living example of "the odds."
I guess we're just that lucky(hit the lotto 500x)
And what about the extreme environments(and space) where life has already been found, volcanos etc?
There was one star recently found to have 5-7 planets in the habitable zone by itself.
It's not out of the question that in billions of chances that two planets in the same solar system somewhere produced intelligent life, perhaps not at the same timeframe, but not impossible either considering. Maybe neither made it to the stars, but can you imagine building a telescope powerful enough to view your neighbors and seeing cities or even simple structures on another planet? Holy shit.
Some argue that Mars produced intelligent life millions of years ago and there's a small amount of evidence.
This Mars image below boggles my mind. A single right angle in nature is unheard of. But a near square?
I guess we're just that lucky(hit the lotto 500x)
And what about the extreme environments(and space) where life has already been found, volcanos etc?
There was one star recently found to have 5-7 planets in the habitable zone by itself.
It's not out of the question that in billions of chances that two planets in the same solar system somewhere produced intelligent life, perhaps not at the same timeframe, but not impossible either considering. Maybe neither made it to the stars, but can you imagine building a telescope powerful enough to view your neighbors and seeing cities or even simple structures on another planet? Holy shit.
Some argue that Mars produced intelligent life millions of years ago and there's a small amount of evidence.
This Mars image below boggles my mind. A single right angle in nature is unheard of. But a near square?
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n0razi
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Nobody has posted this guy yet? I'm disappointed, GAF.
This guy probably gets to be the prime minister of the New Earth Colony
JareBear: Remastered
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Nobody has posted this guy yet? I'm disappointed, GAF.
Some memes are better off dead.
Tesseract
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DunDunDunpachi
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Pentagon must've been a part of that Area 51 Facebook raid.
Wait.
Wait.
cryptoadam
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I say it in every Aliens thread, not only is space an issue but TIME.
Why would Aliens exist at the same time as us? The odds are infintally small for that to happen. Humans have only been around for what a million years, a few 100 000 for homosapians?
Aliens could of been around when there were Dino's here, or when earth was full of giant centapieds. There could be Aliens 100 million years ago, or 100 million years in the future.
You also need Alien life to evolve to the point where they create societies that operate on more than just survival instincts and want to explore the stars. Dinosaurs never became "sentient" enough to want to build space ships. Ants have been around for 100's of millions of years and create complex socieites but they aren't building space ships.
You could have a planet full of life, but just life that goes about suriving and reproducing never thinking anything outside of that.
Its a bit of hubris to think that other life must imitate us and then would travel light years just to reach us.
Why would Aliens exist at the same time as us? The odds are infintally small for that to happen. Humans have only been around for what a million years, a few 100 000 for homosapians?
Aliens could of been around when there were Dino's here, or when earth was full of giant centapieds. There could be Aliens 100 million years ago, or 100 million years in the future.
You also need Alien life to evolve to the point where they create societies that operate on more than just survival instincts and want to explore the stars. Dinosaurs never became "sentient" enough to want to build space ships. Ants have been around for 100's of millions of years and create complex socieites but they aren't building space ships.
You could have a planet full of life, but just life that goes about suriving and reproducing never thinking anything outside of that.
Its a bit of hubris to think that other life must imitate us and then would travel light years just to reach us.
Romulus
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If they're intelligent enough to travel lightyears, the odds of them avoiding extinction level events is much higher, allowing them spread to nearby planets and survive much longer.
highrider
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MilkyJoe
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And yet still they come...
Weilthain
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Those videos are really interesting. Not sure why it has to be aliens though, and if the government is saying aliens then you know it isn’t aliens.
I reckon it’s either
1. Secret military aircraft
2. Drones
3. Holograms
4. Secret military aircraft/drones with holograms on them.
5. Other civilisations from somewhere else on Earth.
6. Simply fake footage being passed of as real.
I reckon it’s either
1. Secret military aircraft
2. Drones
3. Holograms
4. Secret military aircraft/drones with holograms on them.
5. Other civilisations from somewhere else on Earth.
6. Simply fake footage being passed of as real.
Ikutachi
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Ghost stories too. It was fun, but yeah, I eye-roll at the stuff now.
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DoctorEkkoUK
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I saw a very convincing debunk video a few months back that seemed to prove that video was a result of the gimble system for the camera on the jet, it rotates the camera to track the object and it can result in some weird distortions. It seemed to be a rock solid debunk and even replicated in tests, but now people are saying its real?
Romulus
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Maybe, but then the pilots saw it with their own eyes too, switching back and forth. Not to mention it was two fighter jets, both had the same glitch? And all the ship radar tracks of the same objects showed incredible speeds that backed up the pilots stories. Not to mention, the British and Russians have also been tracking these unknown, ultra fast objects on radar and via fighter pilots for years.
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infinitys_7th
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This is not true for UFOs, and has nothing to do with the proven phenomenon the military has confirmed (which is based on radar and other readings corroborating witnesses). You can look at data from the National UFO Reporting Center on the number of reports they receive. There has not been any decrease in reports.
Bigfoot almost never had photos to begin with, and the "modern" notion Loch Ness monster was always a hoax reliant on misidentification of eels and logs.
But, yeah, lump them all together like it means something with respect to this topic.
Torrent of Pork
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If there are aliens actively monitoring us it must be for the purpose of an entire planet's worth of reality television. Earth is the 'Jersey Shore' of the local area of the galaxy.
Damn, it's 2019 and there still are fools who believe in that clown, fraud Lazar.
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Debunked
Explained: Giant Black Sphere Hovering Near the Sun [Coronal Prominence Cavity]
Here's a typical video of the latest odd thing that people spotted near the sun: The suggestion being that there's somehow a giant spherical object hovering near the sun. What this is though is just something that's unfamiliar to most people, but something that solar scientists have been...
www.metabunk.org
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Romulus
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Debunked
Explained: Giant Black Sphere Hovering Near the Sun [Coronal Prominence Cavity]
Here's a typical video of the latest odd thing that people spotted near the sun: The suggestion being that there's somehow a giant spherical object hovering near the sun. What this is though is just something that's unfamiliar to most people, but something that solar scientists have been...
While I think it's a solid debunk with good points, I've yet to see a similar video like the one in question.
Later in the posts they claim that it happens often and this is a great example.
I barely see the similarities.
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Insane Metal
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This is absolutely false.
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They are not always so well defined. He added one that looked almost the same as the video in question. Look at the north side.
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Romulus
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I see something similar but the way it moves is much different. I saw that one before.
Romulus
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Of that size I meant. That's almost a kilometer long.
Checked images taken of the event through different EUV channels.
SDO | Solar Dynamics Observatory
SDO is designed to help us understand the Sun's influence on Earth and Near-Earth space by studying the solar atmosphere on small scales of space and time and in many wavelengths simultaneously.
sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov
Here you can see the AIA 211 images from the dates of the event(helps highlite regions around 2 million Kelvin)
If there had been a huge alien ship it would've been also visible in these images. Where is your giant alien sphere?
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GAMETA
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Have you seen his last appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast?
Parts of it. And it only reinforced his clown status. I can't handle listening to technobabble and someone who flat out made up stories about his education. Poor guy was erased? Stfu and show your university diploma. Let me guess, his dog ate it? Fuck out of here. Guy can't even explain what kind of experiments they did. He just talks how he turned it on and off LMFAO and other kindergarden bullshit.
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GAMETA
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I can't say he's not lying, I can't he is.
DeepEnigma
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The "Hudson Valley UFO" was regularly seen across the NY area throughout the 80s and early 90s, and therefore has thousands of witnesses, and it's one of the few cases that has never been officially debunked. It was always described as a U-shape of different colors that hovered relatively low to the ground and didn't make any sound whatsoever (and of course it would just disappear/zoom away after a few minutes). And the people who saw it close enough said those colors were the outer edge of a larger object. You'll find a whole bunch of similar pictures to the one below (obviously people weren't walking around with camera phones back then, so there weren't many videos):
In fact, my mother saw the Hudson Valley UFO while on the highway in the early 90s. She said everyone on the highway stopped and pulled over to look at it.
I read a whole book on this called Night Siege that was really fascinating:
There's a couple other really interesting aspects of this UFO that I recall....
One is that the "U-shape of colors" UFO has been spotted in the NY area actually as far back as 100 years. People have described it and drew it even back then.
Another really chilling aspect are the apparent abductions. A handful of people who saw the Hudson Valley UFO all described the same thing. They said they looked at the UFO and then when they looked at the clock they all said about an hour passed instead of just the few minutes of time they spent looking at the UFO. And then all of those same people said they had the same vivid dream soon after that of being taken up to the ship, seeing a bunch of "greys", and then one of the greys would waive a device over them and that's the last thing they all saw in the dream. And again, none of these people communicated with each other, so that's one hell of a chilling coincidence.
This reminds me of mid to late 80s my mother was taking me to an arcade/pool hall in the next town over to play some video games, and everybody was pulled over on this long country road.
Above this field in the sky everybody was pointing at this almond or oval shaped object that was flying through the sky changing different solid colors. I remember green, blue, orange/amber, yellow, etc..
I was too young to really understand what was going on, but it was crazy thinking back to that day.
This post made me think back because it was the tri-state area I lived in.
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ResilientBanana
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Yes, but time is relative and can’t be manipulated by mass.
Stiflers Mom
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Romulus
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Checked images taken of the event through different EUV channels.
SDO | Solar Dynamics Observatory
SDO is designed to help us understand the Sun's influence on Earth and Near-Earth space by studying the solar atmosphere on small scales of space and time and in many wavelengths simultaneously.
Here you can see the AIA 211 images from the dates of the event(helps highlite regions up to 2 million Kelvin)
If there had been a huge alien ship it would've been also visible in these images. Where is your giant alien sphere?
I don't know what you're saying. Are you saying the original video is fake? And I don't have a giant alien ship, never said it was one to begin with. I just said it was unusual, and no one has reproduced a video like it.
Romulus
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A few things. I have no idea if Bob is telling a shred of truth, but that YT vid doesn't do a good job of proving much. "This timeline proves everything." Does it? I watched and it didn't prove anything to me.
Here are a few quotes and my thoughts from the vid maker.
"Look at this. I found an article that makes more sense to me than what Bob said about the FBI raids." Zero Proof
He makes the claim that another "article" mentions 115 before Bob. Where are the dates? He just circles some random shit. He talks about how most of Bob's test flight vids don't have dates, well neither does his articles. Zero Proof.
He takes the word of another UFO guy that he didn't see Bob in any of the yearbooks, regarding his schooling. Zero Proof.
He says the Navy Intelligence pay stub is incorrect for the timeframe, yet he provides no info on a real one. Just take his word for it?
The video poster admits "I don't know anything about physics" yet "Bob's story about the explosion is bullshit, it would have leveled the entire mountain." Makes no sense at all. We have no idea how low the yield was.
Most of the vid is just clickbait imo, it should be easy to pick Bob apart considering his story spans 30 years. Again, I don't necessarily believe a damn thing Bob says, but that was a horrible video. I expected alot better. All this talk about "Bob's lack of facts" but then the vid poster does the same thing.
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Ornlu
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The Paradox argument has always been a bit weak, IMO. You could easily brainstorm and come up with a dozen more reasons why we haven't seen anything.
No it's not fake. It shows completley different wavelenghts of light emitted by different Fe ions. The video in question is from AIA 171 channel.
SDO | Solar Dynamics Observatory
SDO is designed to help us understand the Sun's influence on Earth and Near-Earth space by studying the solar atmosphere on small scales of space and time and in many wavelengths simultaneously.
sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov
Go to this website, select the dates of the event 2012/03/09 - 2012/03/15, select different AIA channels (in this case select AIA 211), click submit and you will have an animation. If you did it then you would notice that the higher parts of sun's corona show no presence of this supposed alien spacecraft but it clearly shows the event itself through different wavelenght of light. No, there was no giant alien space craft there, end of story. Just a very well defined coronal prominance cavity.
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-Minsc-
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"There's no cause for alarm, we can confirm these are not UFO's. They are UAP's."
I'm amused the term "unidentified flying object" came to mean aliens. Unidentified Ariel Phenomena does have a bit more of a sciency sound to it.
V4skunk
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It's funny how people here think Lazar is lying! Yet that fighter pilot who actually chased a ufo believes Lazar.