People on Twitter mad at B. Sanders for giving online response to Trump speech

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Bernie Sanders has announced that he is going to give a social media response to Trump's State of the Union address following the official Democrat response given by Stacey Adams.

However, what I do not understand is the extreme hostility in the comments that ensued. A large numbers of (supposedly) Democratic voters attacked him for giving the online speech and one person even demanded that if he wants to run as a presidential candidate, he should do so with the Republicans. Am I missing some important detail about US politics? What is so reprehensive about him giving an answer to a major political speech on his social media channels? Why the hostility?
 
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Bernie ran his campaign as a democrat despite not previously caucusing with them. He proceeded to cause a massive disruption in the primaries which debatably had an effect on the general election and then returned to being an independent once the election was over.

It's basically establishment democrats still being salty from what I can tell.
 

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Bernie ran his campaign as a democrat despite not previously caucusing with them.
Yeah he does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders#Committees_and_caucuses

As an independent, Sanders worked out a deal with the Senate Democratic leadership in which he agreed to vote with the Democrats on all procedural matters unless the Democratic whip, Dick Durbin, agreed that he need not (a request rarely made or granted). In return, he was allowed to keep his seniority and received the committee seats that would have been available to him as a Democrat;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Democratic_Caucus

For the makeup of the 116th Congress, the conference additionally includes two independent senators (Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Angus King of Maine) who formally caucus with the Democrats for the purpose of committee assignments and structural organization, bringing the current total to 47 members.
 
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You are right, let me try that again. Despite working with democrats he was never officially affiliated with the Democratic party except during the 2016 election.

By giving a response to Trump, but a different one from the Dems, some people are thinking that he is dividing the opposition and unintentionally helping Trump.

EDIT: Granted this is only an issue because it's a two party system in US politics. Shame there can't be coalitions.
 
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Bernie Sanders has announced that he is going to give a social media response to Trump's State of the Union address following the official Democrat response given by Stacey Adams.

However, what I do not understand is the extreme hostility in the comments that ensued. A large numbers of (supposedly) Democratic voters attacked him for giving the online speech and one person even demanded that if he wants to run as a presidential candidate, he should do so with the Republicans. Am I missing some important detail about US politics? What is so reprehensive about him giving an answer to a major political speech on his social media channels? Why the hostility?
I think you're starting to see the great divide within the Democratic party, that's why it seems odd to you.

The important detail you're missing is that the DNC is going through an internal power struggle, right in front of everyone's eyes. Progressives within the DNC who were told to keep supporting, supporting, supporting are not seeing the payoff they were promised, especially not when they see Democrats align with corporations and warmongers.

Bernie was "out of line" because he's not the personality that the DNC wants to promote right now. That should explain the hostility and manufactured outrage.
 
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I think you're starting to see the great divide within the Democratic party, that's why it seems odd to you.

The important detail you're missing is that the DNC is going through an internal power struggle, right in front of everyone's eyes. Progressives within the DNC who were told to keep supporting, supporting, supporting are not seeing the payoff they were promised, especially not when they see Democrats align with corporations and warmongers.

Bernie was "out of line" because he's not the personality that the DNC wants to promote right now. That should explain the hostility and manufactured outrage.
That's a pretty bad look though, if they bitch about such nonsense just because they are huffy about him appealing to more left leaning voters.
 
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There is a lot of Bernie hate out there, real and manufactured, for no reason. Some guy talking on his Facebook page has to be the biggest nontroversy ever

Ironic how the anti Bernie Bros clowns are themselves useful idiots but thems the breaks. Just be glad he isn’t third party or it would get real ugly
 
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If they're this mad that Bernie's out there promoting himself, what's gonna happen when Hillary announces her campaign? Shits gonna go down that day.
 
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The left blames Bernie for dividing the left and helping to sink Hillary's campaign.

The left at this point would literally vote for a turd over Trump, they don't care who the Democrat candidate is, so they're very upset by any ideas of debates over a bad Democrat candidate versus a good one like last time.
 
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Remember this pathetic display by Bernie? He was fighting for them, until they talked him off-staged.
not pathetic at all. the guy gets tons of crap for not listening to minority voices, and here he did exactly that, and still gets shit for it.

but it is funny that a candidate who is supposedly running in order to represent people stepping aside to let his voter speaks is seen as "a pathetic display". lol.

it's this absurd "who's winning now?" or "who's the alpha?" mentality that gives us Trump.
 
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Remember this pathetic display by Bernie? He was fighting for them, until they talked him off-staged.
It just ate them up inside that he was a white man, that is why they hated him (and lmao, look at the look on that woman's face, sums it all up)

Of course there'll be more forgiving now of a white male Democrat candidate now, but from the vantage point of their cocky fucking attitude in 2016 they felt like they could tear him down.

At this point? Didn't they already do that in 2016? :messenger_sunglasses:
Do ho ho ho ho!
 
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Remember this pathetic display by Bernie? He was fighting for them, until they talked him off-staged.
So I just watched the video and I don’t see what Bernie did wrong? He started talking and two radicals rushed him (uh was there no security?) and instead of igniting something be stepped away. He listened to them and that was that.

In this video hes he’s interviewed while walking away from the venue and sounds pretty reasonable.


What was so bad about Bernie in this case?
 
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one thing is for sure, it throws a monkeywrench into the whole "Russia is making us divisive" narrative everytime Dem partisans flagellate themselves over Bernie. also lol if you think politics has ever had a 'pure' and 'unfilitered' state.

the cool thing about Bernie is he doesn't care
 
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Taking invididual Twitter responses and extrapolating that on to an entire swath of people as the supposed mainstream view is not exactly a productive method towards understanding political leanings of a country of over 300 million people.
I said a large number of people, not all democrats, all left-leaning people or any such thing. I was just surprise that such a seemingly uncontroversial thing such as giving a video statement on your social media as a politician causes such vitriol.
 
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You are right, let me try that again. Despite working with democrats he was never officially affiliated with the Democratic party except during the 2016 election.

By giving a response to Trump, but a different one from the Dems, some people are thinking that he is dividing the opposition and unintentionally helping Trump.

EDIT: Granted this is only an issue because it's a two party system in US politics. Shame there can't be coalitions.
3 party system**. The Libertarian Party is very valid.
 

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I would love to see him run as a third party in 2020 for 2 reasons.
1. We really need to move away from this binary system that is tearing the country apart.
2. It would piss off so many democrats and it’s so fun to watch.
I agree with both. While I may be a Democrat, I also loathe the people in my party. I think I hate them more than Republicans now that I think about it.
 
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I think people are upset with him because he has a tendency of highlighting just how broken elections are in the US.

More support for a liberal candidate means that the conservative options have a better chance? While that may be working as intended I still think it's lame as Hell.

3 party system**. The Libertarian Party is very valid.
Lol

Not the way the voting system is designed in the US it ain't.
 
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Bernie has a real cult of personality going as well. Remember when Trump remarked something to the effect that he could shoot someone in broad daylight in New York and everyone would still love him? That's a large part of why Trump won the election, he had a very solid die-hard base.

Bernie's has very much grown further after the Hillary debacle. The Dems would probably do well to harness some of it, instead of trying to ignore it.
 
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Bernie is to old the best thing he should do is find someone to be a mentor to and back then for the future. Maybe socialism is keeping him alive who knows. Trump is to old also imho.