Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Omg yess....would watch all day.
The uptake to next gen this time around is far quicker. People just want Atlus to also have a PS4 SKU.
Also Persona is so much more popular now than it was in those days.
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Persona 5/Dancing All Night (2015), Persona Q/P4AU (Fall 2014) for NA
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Omg yess....would watch all day.
The uptake to next gen this time around is far quicker. People just want Atlus to also have a PS4 SKU.
Also Persona is so much more popular now than it was in those days.
Because it would be too expensive to do a PS4 game (because even if you don't care for the graphics, it's simply not a good strategy to bring a PS4 game that looks just like a PS3 game).
Well, let's hope it won't be region locked, even if I really don't see a point for Atlus doing that.
Or lets pray Atlus learns something from editing the game themselves in Europe, but I won't hold my breath for that.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Although I'm fine with PS3, this is wrong imo.
I don't actually think so. I think the games would be just as strong without the direct connection. Rather, it still feels like a shoehorned way of making one part of the game relevant to the other, when they don't need to be. The sim part is good on its own, and the dungeon crawling is good on its own. They don't need to be so arbitrarily linked.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Any footage or screens for P5?
Catherine's engine?
Catherine's engine?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
In fairness, the original PS3 had full PS2 backwards compatibility so it didn't matter.
I don't really see it as arbitrary though. Both P3 and P4 are super grindy and actually kind of hard without using S. Links to get level boosts to your Personas.
buddha0991
Member
Nope, those chairs are all we have ever gotten.
A ton of PS2 owners moved to Xbox 360 and now won't able to play the game, despite other Persona (P4A) and Persona team games (Catherine) coming to the console.
The people who own Ps4's are annoyed because they have to move around their setup two years into the new gen to accommodate one game. There's no backwards compatibility this time around so they can't just pop it in their console and get it to work like you could with launch era PS3's.
Not sure I agree with the anger of either group but as someone who has a spotty PS3 and a totally working Xbox 360 it's kind of annoying. I mean I'll still try to play the game (day one!) but it'd be easier for me to get it on a different console (that doesn't sound like a jet engine and has constant disc read errors, haha).
Five months for P4, and no, it doesn't. Atlus' localization turnarounds have long since gotten quicker, as SMT IV's localization took two months.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Good dungeon design? Persona Q has you covered.
Palette Swap
Member
To be fair, I totally blame Atlus for P4A but wasn't it Arc that pushed for region locking for fear of reverse imports?
I wouldn't assume P4A2 would be region free but I don't really see the other 2 games being region locked.
But yeah, fuck Atlus for creating that doubt in the first place.
my problem with persona games being 60+ hours isn't the dungeon crawling and rpg combat elements themselves so much as the fact that they're lacking the variety and depth required to remain interesting from start to finish. the combat and the dungeons always get to be a real drag half-way through because you've seen all the games' tricks in like the first 20 hours.
P4 was 6 months, but SMT IV was less than 2. P5 won't take long to get here.
I understand the issue of not owning a PS3 and not wanting to buy one for P5 (especially if you already owned one and sold it after playing most/all the games you wanted) but if you own a PS3, this complaint just seems like nonsense to me. You're not going to going to spend $60 on undoubtedly one of the best games of 2015 and one that'll last you you 60-80 if not 100+ hours just by the virtue of it being on an old system? Well, your loss if this irrationally is worth more than a good long game.
SweetTeddie
Member
By 2015 PS3s will be pretty cheap I bet. I'm just glad that P5 is a console game. Atlus RPGs don't really need next-gen visuals, even if I'd prefer it.
atlusprime
Atlus PR
Retail confirmed for NA. Can't say either way for EU - no details yet for our bros across the atlantic.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
I hope P5 wasn't rushed. I hope they were working on it right after Catherine.
Maybe they'll use the same assets so the work would be faster.
It seems out of the blue with no screens or trailers.
And to those who wanted this on PS4: I'm glad it's not on Ps4 since I don't have one!
But I may get a Ps4 by 2015 so...
...but don't mind me because I wanted Persona 5 on the Vita
Maybe they'll use the same assets so the work would be faster.
It seems out of the blue with no screens or trailers.
And to those who wanted this on PS4: I'm glad it's not on Ps4 since I don't have one!
But I may get a Ps4 by 2015 so...
...but don't mind me because I wanted Persona 5 on the Vita
or Wii U.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think there's a lot of incentive to do it faster when you're releasing this late into the generation, too. But we'll see. I think we'd all be disappointed if P5 wasn't significantly more complex (and thus more work to localize) than P4, given P4 is a 6 year old game from two generations ago. Not to mention that P4G added tons of text and vocalized dialogue, a trend I'd expect to go even further in P5.
So you're saying you like it being super grindy? If taking the connection out contributed to the game being less grindy, I would be 10000000% for it.
matrixman92
Member
well, I do own a ps3 right now. Will probably end up selling it..i was really only keeping it for the left behind dlc for last of us. Ps3 is overall an atrocious experience compared to ps4 to me at least. It was so hard to go back to the crappy xmb, slow menus, jet turbine fan my system has become...i would pay 60 dollars for an exact copy of a ps3 game on ps4 so i dont have to deal with my ps3 anymore
I have to caution people against extrapolating trends from a single data point.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Guys, I got this super secret footage of Persona 5 from that site, looks like TVs are still in:
Excellent. Will buy.
sixteen-bit
Member
Will buy at a low price. (P4D)
hipsterpants
Member
I literally cannot comprehend being upset that P5 is ps3 exclusive. There is no way that could not have been completely obvious.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm saying it super grindy if you DON'T do the Social Links. The S. Links are what let you progress in the dungeons without having to spend hours grinding because you get access to higher level personas and skills by using the system. The way P3 and P4 were set up, the RPG elements would be broken if you weren't' using the S. Links.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think the idea that decoupling the RPG elements and the simulator elements makes much sense in context of the series.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Easier to have the Persona 5 Platinum for Vita, I guess!
Ah, so it was the exception and may not necessarily become the rule. Very well, I'll keep that in mind.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Mass Destruction is now our slogan
You sure you are not assuming that there's a 1:1 attach ratio between number of PS4 owners and the number of people that are potentially going to buy Persona 5 if it ended up on the PS4? I fail to see how shifting it to the PS4 will justify the costs in doing so. If they can only move a certain amount of copies on the PS3, what makes you think shifting to the PS4 is going to give them the much needed boost?
Nah, P5 on the PS3 is good enough. PS4 is more suitable for P6, when the number of PS4 adopters are highly with releases of titles such as FF15 or Kingdom Hearts 3.
KimonoNoNo
Member
I really hope that those aren't bullshots because those are some of the cleanest looking screens I've seen on a Vita.
Aquamarine
Member
LOL at the thought of playing Persona 4, a PS2 game, in 2008. Sony needs to shell out some money and get this damn thing on PS3.
I wish I could say I'm surprised by all the bitching and moaning but I'm not. Persona 5 was announced as PS3 awhile ago. If you wanted it, you should have held on to your systems. The PS3 is not going anywhere for another two years. We all knew this. Deal with it.
Beg for a Persona 5 Platinum on PS4 in 2017.
Beg for a Persona 5 Platinum on PS4 in 2017.
Have to do a double-take with some of those. They look like anime if you just glance them.
-Atlus to Europe.
atlusprime
Atlus PR
Hey, so I'm offsite right now and don't have the wherewithall to comb through all your questions, but here's a general amount of stuff you can mull over:
1) We're trying to avoid region-locking on P4AU
2) For all the releases (except PQ), we're trying to be relatively close to Japan's release. Not Dragon's Crown close, but close.
3) No rumblings about anything on PS4 yet, that shit just launched in Japan. Keep your fingers crossed for solid sales.
4) SO HYPE FOR DANCING ALL NIGHT.
1) We're trying to avoid region-locking on P4AU
2) For all the releases (except PQ), we're trying to be relatively close to Japan's release. Not Dragon's Crown close, but close.
3) No rumblings about anything on PS4 yet, that shit just launched in Japan. Keep your fingers crossed for solid sales.
4) SO HYPE FOR DANCING ALL NIGHT.
The connection however is nonsensical and you're effectively arguing for the game giving you less options as to how to play it. It's an easy thing to disconnect and makes the game more interesting on both sides, because it encourages the player to play the way they want to, rather than having an arbitrary system link forcing you to.
What's more, even with maxed social links, the game does not become significantly easier. Just slightly easier. I would like to see more focus on the social aspect of the game but from the perspective of a greater narrative arc for characters, not just vignettes which only peek into their lives and don't greatly connect all the characters together except in "Events." Like, the game forces itself into a system where it plays out more like a dating simulator than it needs or even really seems like it wants to.
matrixman92
Member
first ps3 was BC...nobody cared back then. Different time, different situation
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I hope P5 wasn't rushed. I hope they were working on it right after Catherine.
Maybe they'll use the same assets so the work would be faster.
It seems out of the blue with no screens or trailers.
And to those who wanted this on PS4: I'm glad it's not on Ps4 since I don't have one!
But I may get a Ps4 by 2015 so...
...but don't mind me because I wanted Persona 5 on the Vitaor Wii U.
Do you how long its been since we have had a new Persona mainline or since Catherine.
Also having a PS4 SKU doesn't automatically mean the PS3 version disappears.
Rise needs to button up her shirt -___-
AcademicSaucer
Member
so persona q for november ?
Nice, sounds great!
Btw. who is responsible for how fast these games will come to Europe? Is their already an idea who could publish them there?
I thought its already slated for Fall release?
Because that's fairly close to the japanese release, except if its for november.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Well to be fair, persona's popularity skyrocketed with p4g's release. I mean golden was a good port and stuff being but I think being on Vita(a new platform with little to no good jrpgs) helped out a lot. A lot of people slept on that game when it was on ps2. Athough I think PS3 In 2015 will get more attention than PS2 in 2008/9. And if it gets released on PS NOW, it'll be huge.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Seeing how Atlus milks a Persona game like crazy, I'm assuming we'll see:
1) A Vita version like Golden in a couple years.
2) A PS4 version a year later with extra features and a new playable character of course!
1) A Vita version like Golden in a couple years.
2) A PS4 version a year later with extra features and a new playable character of course!
boredandlazy
Member
Not sure if it's exactly the same, but Persona 4 Golden was one of the least grindy JRPG's I've ever played. I barely fused any personas until the end game, and that was mainly for trophy hunting.