It's kinda funny(its really fucking not) if you think about it. The people that are complaining about this are the same people who complained about The Somnium Files having a couple pro-lgbt lines. The same crowd WANTING censorship. C'mon, guys.
Apparently the gays can't be portrayed as assholes or predatory (sorry James Charles), like every other normal human being can. Acceptance is all about normalcy, innit? I guess not.
Reddit also censoring Gaymer's speaking out for not being, "the right kind of gay".
True. Unfortunately thats what Atlus is turning into alsoi dont know about people, but im pretty weird about these things. now i feel that the game is incomplete, they shouldn't put that shit in the first place.
and the fuck up thing is atlus get progressive and woke as soon as they cross the ocean.
So they are censoring this on a game where you can see some things such as (don't read if you didn't play the original):
1) The first guy palace is straight, predatory, and abusive with their minors students. No problem
2) On Makoto route, the boyfriend of "Makoto´s friend" want swindle and prostitute her. No problem
3) You can date your teacher on this game. No problem
4) Politics abuse of power. No problem
5) The Yakuza guy from a (third?) palace force to prostitute the minors school girls blackmail them (blackmail guys too). No problem.
6) Testing drugs on a student without clinics essays.
I don't know, but I think those points I described are worse than a joke with 2 gays characters.
The hotel I stayed at in Shinjuku was adjacent to the gay district.
I walked through many times to get to Shinjuku-gyoemmae station.
There were flamboyant gay people there at night. People were also flirting with each other.
"No, NO! You can't depict us in a negative light. Take this out!"
Yes its bad and yes its pathetic but people barely knew about this and if the news never made it then they'll still know nothing about it"We don't want to censor anything, we just want to be included!"
"Well we think the way you're including us is tokenism, please include us in more realistic ways"
"No, NO! You can't depict us in a negative light. Take this out!"
It was always about censorship, brainiacs. They were lying through their teeth even before GamerGate, even here on GAF:
(nearly 7 years ago...)
Call Schreier if old Saw this article on my Twitter feed linked by the beautiful Patrick from GiantBomb; it seems to be written by a N4G user named dedicatedtogamers - I don't know who is behind this, but I think that person did an excellent job of summing up my current feelings about Kotaku...www.neogaf.com
brap 's censorship bingo card nailed it.
First of all, what if I am gay? Would it make my opinion more or less valid in your eyes?Imagine you were gay. Would you be happy that the only gay presence in Persona 5 would revolve about two guys behaving like this? Would you take it as a joke? I wouldn't.
I mean, I view it as yet another brick in the wall.Yes its bad and yes its pathetic but people barely knew about this and if the news never made it then they'll still know nothing about it
There's more censorship fuckery that deserves more attention
As for how those characters and lines have changed, Namba simply said, "We made it [as if they're] being very strong enthusiasts for something they like doing. But it's not like they're on the hunt for some young boys or anything."
They’re too busy banning anyone who doesn’t think “brownies” are a racist food.
They had a thread last week in which one of their genius members asked if the name "Blackie" is racist for a dog. They decided it was 1000 percent always racist and banned anyone who disagreed for a month. That's the kind of people who go there, and then they wonder why their numbers are dropping every single month.I'm glad I wasn't planning to buy this anyway. P5 was fun but not good enough to spend another 100 hours on it.
Seems like a usual case of "it's only ok to depict LGBT people if they are good and perfect in every way". In a game with murder, adults abusing minors, evil politicians and an underage main character who is given several romance options with adult women.... the only people who aren't allowed to be depicted in any negative way are these 2 gay dudes.
As I've said in other threads, if your argument is that it "enforces negative stereotypes" then you'll have to admit you also think games cause violence and I want to see your full support next time some politician wants to ban or restrict them. Because if 2 shorts scenes in a 100 hours game are shaping your views of gay people then I can't imagine what the countless hours of shooting and fighting in games are doing to you.
Wait brownies are racist now?
Well if you want to be depicted in media then its up to the Creator how he wants to depict you.
For example: If the creator only has bad experiences with gay people, he will depict them as bad persons based on his experience. Thats doesnt mean he doesnt like gay people, he just doesnt know better.
That whole Persona 5 Royal thing now was kinda counterproductive to the people who tried to defend LBGT people when even LBGT people getting censored because they arent offended by it.
For me its easy:
I am writing a book. Its a modern sci-fiction/fantasy tale with a classic and traditional background. There is the beauty that needs to be saved, the knight that conquers great obstacles, enemies which become friends over time and other stuff. People who were able to read my stuff already loved it. I always describe it as a mixture of "Game of Thrones" x "The Man with the iron mask" x "Sin City". I already have plans for three books.
At the moment i dont plan to write any LBGT characters. Why? Easy. I just have a few gay friends and thats why i have only a few experiences with gay people and they are normal people like me. I never expected one of my friends to be in relationship with a old friend of mine now. The moment was funny when they told me about it but its ok for me. So when i write a gay character he will just be a normal human being and i wont go to far into it. My gay friend for example dislikes all the gay people who just overdo it or are just overly dramatic in every aspect.
What iam interested in is "Epic Tales", "Romance between men and women", "Strong Knights", "Great Kings", "Gracious Queens", "Mysterious Beauties", "Traditional Storytelling".
If people critizes my book for not having any LBGT people in it... i will tell them that i can only tell stories or depict characters that iam familiar with or what iam interesed in and if they want to write a LBGT fantasy story, about LBGT knights in LBGT relationships.... i will gladly give them a pen to write a book for themselves.
If they cant write it or they dont want to write it, then they shouldnt critizes other people for not writing it but iam sure there are already a lot of books out there depicting LBGT people.