Red The Hunter
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Maya's initial persona Maia,
Which is actually awesome, even if a little goofy...it turns into....
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Persona Community Thread |OT4| The Golden Number
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BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
^^^^I hate that persona design, probably the worse one in the franchise.
you guys are the worse
you guys are the worse
Deep.
Soejima's persona designs are definitely more likely to appeal to anime fans. A lot of the time they look like they'd fit right in on a shounen manga/anime series. I think the symbolism isn't very interesting most of the time and is really blatant and lacking any kind of subtlety though, a real trait of anime design. Not one in fond of either.
And while symbolism is nice and all a lot of then are fucking horrid. Polydeuces? Castor? Susano-O? Any of Teddie's atrocious Personas? I could go on, but a lot of them are just really bad despite the few gems he's designed. I really do not want a whole persona roster of his designs because the chances of bad ones just becomes larger and larger.
And while symbolism is nice and all a lot of then are fucking horrid. Polydeuces? Castor? Susano-O? Any of Teddie's atrocious Personas? I could go on, but a lot of them are just really bad despite the few gems he's designed. I really do not want a whole persona roster of his designs because the chances of bad ones just becomes larger and larger.
Probably.
There isn't much difference between the 2nd and 3rd tier forms. I wouldn't really bother trying to evaluate them as anything other than a bonus.
@Artemis: This Persona looks downright terrible.
TurnipFritters
Member
Artemis, the Eternal Virgin Goddess, literally has giant blocks of ice/whatever covering her breasts and vagina.
Maia, the Blessed Mother Nymph, is literally a pregnant lady.
Maia, the Blessed Mother Nymph, is literally a pregnant lady.
buddha0991
Member
Sojima's Personas have in your face, literal character symbolism going on with them, where as Kaneko's Personas just look damn cool. Honestly, I would like a mix of both artists, but that is never going to happen.
Lord Scrambles
Member
Funny you should say that, I have a Smedwicks-esque repulsion to anime. In fact Persona 4 was the first jrpg I'd played in years and it opened my eyes to the fact that there can be profound and and well thought out jrpgs out there.
buddha0991
Member
Honestly, both artists have pretty hit or miss Persona designs for me. Both of them have done some pretty awesome stuff and some goofy stuff. Can't we all just get along?
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
I wish that Kaneko went into his persona designs with the same philosophy as his demon designs. I mean his persona designs are aight, buy then you look at his actual demon designs like Lucifer, there is just a massive gulf in quality.
Well they would look right at home on a shounen anime or manga series.
Well yeah of course. All I'm against is Soejima's redesigning the whole roster. It doesn't need to happen and if he can't even get all the main characters' personas great then how can he do the whole roster?Honestly, both artists have pretty hit or miss Persona designs for me. Both of them have done some pretty awesome stuff and some goofy stuff. Can't we all just get along?
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
But they're right. Chie and Yosuke deserve each other.
buddha0991
Member
TurnipFritters
Member
I think they should invite a bunch of guest designers whose primary claim to fame is making crappy rubber suits for low budget tv shows.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Can't disagree with that, both are the weakest of the P4 cast.
Lord Scrambles
Member
Honestly, both artists have pretty hit or miss Persona designs for me. Both of them have done some pretty awesome stuff and some goofy stuff. Can't we all just get along?
Saviorjima is Law, and Kaneko is Chaos... and you can call me motherflippin' Michael, burning heretics left and right.
in all seriousness though, I really like Kaneko's art, I just had a stupid wish that'll never come true lol
TurnipFritters
Member
I actually literally, unironically want them to redesign the whole stable of personas for P5.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
I'll never forgive Atlus for this, NEVER.
buddha0991
Member
I do too, because what other game in this series can do it at this point?
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
It's about time Kaneko did some new demon designs, so sure why not.
Red The Hunter
Member
It's not bad in game, but looking at Artemis in official art makes me tilt my head a little at how goofy it looks.
Did he ever get out of that fridge he was trapped in, though?
Lord Scrambles
Member
TurnipFritters
Member
Kaneko's Dead.
Lord Scrambles
Member
and we killed him?
TurnipFritters
Member
You killed him.
See if we're extending this to all of their designs in general, I honestly always felt the opposite here with Kaneko.
There's lots of really on-the-nose symbolism with some of his designs.
Like for example, with Omoikane:
and his design is literally a brain:
Or more infamously, Mara which is
Among other things. And his design is well... you know.
how about no? Chie is not so simple as it seems and with late game romance she became one of the strongest characters in cast
Red The Hunter
Member
Kaneko became a demon in the afterlife and now haunts the ATLUS headquarters in Japan.
Kaneko is the Persona of the protag in P5.
Lord Scrambles
Member
Even without the romance, she's amazingly strong.
as designed by Soejima of course
buddha0991
Member
yes i agree she can punt a tank
TurnipFritters
Member
Chie's a strong female character because she did a violence
Lord Scrambles
Member
Naw dawgs
quoting the great Patton Oswald, her weakness is strong.
quoting the great Patton Oswald, her weakness is strong.
So you want Kaneko to design ... demons instead of Personas? In a Persona game?
Well yes. The majority of the personas are just demons from other SMT games. Demons existed in Persona games prior to the shadows in P3 as well.
Kaneko's later art is fantastic in my opinion, once he got into really abstract and weird stuff. His early, more straight forward stuff ranges from average to terrible though.
I think I'd actually be okay with the designs looking like this.
I doubt they'll all have the choker, headphones and same top on, though.
Why do you draw on paper if you have a tablet?
Also, how long do you spend drawing a picture? Genuinely interested in that kind of thing, because I feel like I spend way too long on a single image. I want to pick up my stylus and have it finished within an hour, haha.
I think I'd actually be okay with the designs looking like this.
I doubt they'll all have the choker, headphones and same top on, though.
Why do you draw on paper if you have a tablet?
Also, how long do you spend drawing a picture? Genuinely interested in that kind of thing, because I feel like I spend way too long on a single image. I want to pick up my stylus and have it finished within an hour, haha.
cj_iwakura
Member
We'll always have light novels.
Ooft, I agree. That would be rather wonderful.
Can't see them pursuing it though. The Persona Team's characters and style is undoubtedly more popular.
Not bad for ten minutes! My art would be a right mess if I only spent ten minutes on it, haha.
buddha0991
Member
Maybe a like 5 or 6 years from now if the brand is still going strong.
I would be uber bummed if they did remake it and Maya didnt say The Whoop Ass Completed anymore though
It's on the level of Mark Danced Crazy for me
but Persona 2 had an overworld free of monsters though!!
The protag is Soejima.
Since we're talking about art, I thought I might post that quick and rough sketch of Rise I did recently. Took me about 10 minutes.
Neat! PersonaGAF has so many capable artists.
Do you by any chance have a tumblr or a deviantart account?