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Persona Community Thread |OT4| The Golden Number

CorvoSol

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Rather have p2 overworld than getting lost in smt iv tokyo. halp

Oh man yeah. All I know about Tokyo's layout now is that I would never ever want to be there when the Apocalypse struck.

"Yeah this is one street over from your current location but you actually need to head in the opposite direction and then to the far end of town to find the subway tunnel that leads to an area directly north of where you want to go so that you can go through the Sector 7 Ruins so you can come out at the wrong place anyway."

Worst part is random encounters though. "It's a surprise attack!" Wonderful.
 

buddha0991

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Oh man yeah. All I know about Tokyo's layout now is that I would never ever want to be there when the Apocalypse struck.

"Yeah this is one street over from your current location but you actually need to head in the opposite direction and then to the far end of town to find the subway tunnel that leads to an area directly north of where you want to go so that you can go through the Sector 7 Ruins so you can come out at the wrong place anyway."

Worst part is random encounters though. "It's a surprise attack!" Wonderful.

Estoma Sword brah, Estoma Sword
 

Daimaou

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Moonlight

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At the same time, I don't think I would have survived P2IS without that spoiler-free guide.

Those fucking trap doors.
How about that Naoto?
She's the 'coolest' P4 character and in terms of visual design I feel like she's the best, but man, she was not handled very well as either a part of the investigation dynamic or in terms of her character arc (for the most part).
 

Squire

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At the same time, I don't think I would have survived P2IS without that spoiler-free guide.

Those fucking trap doors.

I mean, it's fine. The FAQ you guys gave me is very good and I'll keep using it if I ever get back to the game, but you don't get to say how people should be using a FAQ to play and then proceed to say the game is no worse than Chrono Trigger or FFVI.
 

Lunar15

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I'll join RiseGAF as soon as someone draws a picture of Rise in the style of that Dengeki Yu cover that my avatar is taken from. :/
 

Moonlight

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I mean, it's fine. The FAQ you guys gave me is very good and I'll keep using it if I ever get back to the game, but you don't get to say how people should be using a FAQ to play and then proceed to say the game is no worse than Chrono Trigger or FFVI.
I, uh, fully agree.

:p
 
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Here's something interesting if your curious, a SMT III: Nocturne Prototype, originally under the name of SMT III: Vortex.

It contains some interesting stuff.
  • Maya and Lisa 3D models and Lisa talking in a cut scene, which I;m guessing were used as prototypes for the Nocturne engine to see how it would work.
  • Lilith had more involvement in the game in some form, other than being a demon to have in party.
  • Louis Cyphre having a look more akin to SMT I and II.
  • A completely different UI interface compare to the one in game.
  • A different battle UI interface, which in included Moon phases instead of the Katsuguchi phases found in the game, a bar at the top for which I don't what it's purpose is, demons having a bigger involvement in negotiation from what it looks like. And battle taking place in what looks like nothingness.

One more thing.....
SMT wrestling has the deepest lore
 
I mean, it's fine. The FAQ you guys gave me is very good and I'll keep using it if I ever get back to the game, but you don't get to say how people should be using a FAQ to play and then proceed to say the game is no worse than Chrono Trigger or FFVI.

You don't need one. But it sure helps. I try to minimize people's frustration with it as best I can.

It's not like you need one for where to go and what to do. Just for resources.

Games where you have no idea what to do without one(hi Snatcher), that's a problem.
 

Daimaou

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This thread, suddenly:


If you don't like some of the mechanics in P2, that's fine, but don't pretend it's objective garbage.
 

Sophia

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I didn't see a denial of that fedora totting

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O:

Not to say I have a fedora, but what girl doesn't have at least a few hats? :p

I'd probably use a FAQ for the old FF games, to be fair.

If there's any series of RPGs that doesn't need an FAQ, it's the older FF games. Especially FFIV (straightforward and a bit linear) and FFVI (easiest of the classic games)
 

Setsu00

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Not bad for ten minutes! My art would be a right mess if I only spent ten minutes on it, haha.

Thank you very much, Mr. Dantis Sir! :D

Neat! PersonaGAF has so many capable artists.

Do you by any chance have a tumblr or a deviantart account?

Thanks man! I have a tumblr, but it's still in its infancy... I'll post a link once there's actually something worthwile on there.
 
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This thread, suddenly:


If you don't like some of the mechanics in P2, that's fine, but don't pretend it's objective garbage.
Thank You Dai, can we all just agree to disagree and more on from this because this is getting way out of hand. If you don't like P2, fine, but at least respect the other person's opinion who like the game for what it is.
 

Squire

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You don't need one. But it sure helps. I try to minimize people's frustration with it as best I can.

It's not like you need one for where to go and what to do. Just for resources.

Games where you have no idea what to do without one(hi Snatcher), that's a problem.

It sounds like you know the games are designed in a way that's problematic. That's good enough for me.

I'd probably use a FAQ for the old FF games, to be fair.

It's you though!
 

ramyeon

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Persona fans are such a split community. Just learn to accept that this is a series which is really fragmented. In my opinion, minus Persona 1, they are all great games with their own merits and charms. Obviously 3 and 4 have way more streamlined mechanics with faster battles and no fucking tarot cards but the cast of Persona 2 and storyline are really great. And I honestly find the gameplay charming and really love how customisable the auto battle options are.

So many newer fans seem to feel the need to trash the game, I really don't get it. Just leave it be. No one is forcing you to like it if you tried it and you don't. It's still an important part of the Persona games' history though.
 

EMT0

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It's you though!

To be fair, I'd probably be there right along with him glancing at GameFAQs every five seconds. I wouldn't play an old school JRPG without a good reason in the first place, though. Like having Persona in the title.
 

buddha0991

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Persona fans are such a split community. Just learn to accept that this is a series which is really fragmented. In my opinion, minus Persona 1, they are all great games with their own merits and charms. Obviously 3 and 4 have way more streamlined mechanics with faster battles and no fucking tarot cards but the cast of Persona 2 and storyline are really great. And I honestly find the gameplay charming and really love how customisable the auto battle options are.

So many newer fans seem to feel the need to trash the game, I really don't get it. Just leave it be. No one is forcing you to like it if you tried it and you don't. It's still an important part of the Persona games' history though.

hey bud p1 is baller ill have you know :p
 

Soriku

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For most games (even RPGs) you don't need a FAQ unless it's for missables generally. Can't really think of any RPGs right now where I'd need a FAQ because I was so lost otherwise.
 

Daimaou

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Persona fans are such a split community. Just learn to accept that this is a series which is really fragmented. In my opinion, minus Persona 1, they are all great games with their own merits and charms. Obviously 3 and 4 have way more streamlined mechanics with faster battles and no fucking tarot cards but the cast of Persona 2 and storyline are really great. And I honestly find the gameplay charming and really love how customisable the auto battle options are.

So many newer fans seem to feel the need to trash the game, I really don't get it. Just leave it be. No one is forcing you to like it if you tried it and you don't. It's still an important part of the Persona games' history though.

I'll fight you.

Just kidding, but I probably consider P1 the most fun to play. Different strokes for different folks.
 

PK Gaming

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I enjoy aspects of it but I think it's aged really, really badly. I don't ever feel the need to play through it again and don't think I'd really enjoy to either. Much rather to do P2.

The gameplay in P1 is leaps and bounds better than P2 though...

In my opinion anyway.
 

Squire

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Problematic for some, not for me. I have resources for those people.

And that's fine and well and good of you, but when you're like "It's no worse then (insert basically universally revered games)" it's not fair to those games or the people who made them. Because when people play those games, they don't need "resources".

I'm not knocking your tastes or your preferences. Some of my favorite games of the past generation are very flawed works. I have a whole paragraph worth of explaining to get out upon recommending them to people.

But I don't make them out to be classics or downplay the achievements of their peers.
 

ramyeon

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I'll fight you.

Just kidding, but I probably consider P1 the most fun to play. Different strokes for different folks.
Looks like I've opened a whole other can of worms :p

I can see that. Maybe I'll have to play through it again. I've never given the PSP remake a shot so there's that. Still the thought of playing through it again isn't that appealing when I could play 2, 3 of 4.
 

Makoto Yuki

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Persona fans are such a split community. Just learn to accept that this is a series which is really fragmented. In my opinion, minus Persona 1, they are all great games with their own merits and charms. Obviously 3 and 4 have way more streamlined mechanics with faster battles and no fucking tarot cards but the cast of Persona 2 and storyline are really great. And I honestly find the gameplay charming and really love how customisable the auto battle options are.

So many newer fans seem to feel the need to trash the game, I really don't get it. Just leave it be. No one is forcing you to like it if you tried it and you don't. It's still an important part of the Persona games' history though.

I'm with you. Well said. People just need to calm down and accept each game for what they are. No need to debate which one is the best, or which is the worst. If you love a specific game in the series, and in "your opinion" think its the best, share it as such, as an opinion. It's just like FF where everyone is trashing or proclaiming this FF game is best and this FF is the worst, when it's all a matter of opinion, perspective, and context. As you said, it's all an important part of the history.