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Persona series ships 6.9 million copies, Sega talks about their new business model

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Sega put up their 140+ page annual report in English recently, and here are a few of the highlights.

Report: http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/printing_annual/2016/all_ar2016_e.pdf

First, new business models:

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Second, sales numbers:

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And since some people are probably curious if the digital division is making money:

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Mediking

Member
I almost always support Atlus and their games. I plan on supporting Sega via Yakuza and Sonic 2017 and whatever else they push out that looks interesting.

And yeah... Persona 5 will sell a million in its 1st year in the West. BELIEVE!
 

Eolz

Member
Their goals seem reasonable.
Good graphs and presentation too.

That said, still waiting on their PC ports that they promised after the great sales of Valkyria Chronicles there ;)
 

kenta

Has no PEINS
Wow, the way they're redeploying personnel is... concerning... Kinda wish they went into a little more details on the amount of people they're talking about there (well the report is 140 pages long so... do they?)

Also there have been 68 editions of RGG/Yakuza???
 
"Optimizing the efficiency of human capital" is some incredible corporate speak.

Anyway, people here aren't going to like the direction those arrows are going in.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Their goals seem reasonable.
Good graphs and presentation too.

That said, still waiting on their PC ports that they promised after the great sales of Valkyria Chronicles there ;)

They did express interest in PC beyond the chart above:

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XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Good to see more focus on PC development! Though I suspect that's more expansion of their current developers on the platform, not necessarily more ports from their Japanese portfolio.

Skimming through the graphs, I'm guessing people may not like the shift of resources away from standard console development to other areas.
 

Rymuth

Member
That arrow going away from Yakuza towards a match-3 mobile-ge...

Nuuuuuuuuuu~

That paradise casino resort came across as unintentionally funny in a 'read between the lines' kind of way.
 

Miker

Member
I really don't understand why more Puyo Puyo games haven't been localized. It's clearly one of SEGA's bigger franchises, and it's strange that they'll go all out and localize every single ramen shop item in the various Yakuzas but won't crank out an English version of a competitive puzzler. Then again, Nintendo didn't put out a Puzzle League/Panel de Pon this generation (bar Animal Crossing lol), so maybe market forces are really against competitive puzzlers.
 
Also, at least with Persona, it looks like they're only counting main games, not spin-offs.

12 total editions
-6 Original Releases-
P1
P2:IS
P2:EP
P3
P4
P5

-6 remakes/enhanced ports-
P1 PSP
P2:IS PSP
P2:EP PSP
P3:FES
P3P
P4G

So if you counted the music game and the two fighting game, I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeded the SMT figure.
 

singhr1

Member
Also, at least with Persona, it looks like they're only counting main games, not spin-offs.

12 total editions
-6 Original Releases-
P1
P2:IS
P2:EP
P3
P4
P5

-6 remakes/enhanced ports-
P1 PSP
P2:IS PSP
P2:EP PSP
P3:FES
P3P
P4G

So if you counted the music game and the two fighting game, I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeded the SMT figure.

It's odd that then they used the Dancing All Night logo to represent "Persona"
 

TheBowen

Sat alone in a boggy marsh
Also, at least with Persona, it looks like they're only counting main games, not spin-offs.

12 total editions
-6 Original Releases-
P1
P2:IS
P2:EP
P3
P4
P5

-6 remakes/enhanced ports-
P1 PSP
P2:IS PSP
P2:EP PSP
P3:FES
P3P
P4G

So if you counted the music game and the two fighting game, I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeded the SMT figure.

Think it might include dancing all night since they used the logo aswell, but i dont know what game would be taken out the list


Good to see segas doing alright. Will be supporting Persona 5 and Yakuza 0 next year
 

Nikodemos

Member
Total Warhammer did great for them.

I doubt that it means that any of their japanese portfolio are coming to PC, though.
Best-reviewed (and sold) Total War title since Medieval II, IIRC.

And they have Dawn of War III and Halo Wars in the pipeline, too.
 

Eolz

Member
Think it might include dancing all night since they used the logo aswell, but i dont know what game would be taken out the list


Good to see segas doing alright. Will be supporting Persona 5 and Yakuza 0 next year

They're probably counting FES on top of the P3 sales.
 

kswiston

Member
6.9M seems high for Persona if spinoffs are not included, but the Etrian Odyssey number matches the main 5 games plus the remakes of the first two. Mystery Dungeon doesnt have a slot
 

Shizuka

Member
I wonder how much of that is Persona 4 Golden alone. I wouldn't be surprised if it's past one million at this point.
 

5taquitos

Member
I don't like to see Personnel arrows pointing away from Yakuza

I know it's just an example picture of packaged games
 
Should be mentioned that Sega's interest in PC is primarily centered around their European developed IPs, not ports of Japanese console games.

Honestly I think this is a major failing of Sega as a company.

As the rest of the big players are expanding onto Steam with their Japanese developed library without hesitation and reaping all the rewards (I mean, jesus, looks like even Tecmo-Koei is trying to improve their quality. TK!!), Sega is shying away despite the thirst being out there and proven with Valkyria Chronicles, and instead experimenting with getting their JRPGs on Xbox One on some "Blue Ocean" myth despite THE JRPG IP, Final Fantasy, doing poorly there and causing Square Enix to stop announcing JRPGs for it for the foreseeable future. That's no Blue Ocean. That's an Algae Bloom.

Sega™
 

Mcdohl

Member
So are all SMT spinoffs counted for SMT's 7million?

I almost always support Atlus and their games. I plan on supporting Sega via Yakuza and Sonic 2017 and whatever else they push out that looks interesting.

And yeah... Persona 5 will sell a million in its 1st year in the West. BELIEVE!

And I will be one of those million :)
 
Also, at least with Persona, it looks like they're only counting main games, not spin-offs.

12 total editions
-6 Original Releases-
P1
P2:IS
P2:EP
P3
P4
P5

-6 remakes/enhanced ports-
P1 PSP
P2:IS PSP
P2:EP PSP
P3:FES
P3P
P4G

So if you counted the music game and the two fighting game, I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeded the SMT figure.


I'm not sure. I have it in my head that sega normally counts different console releases and editions as different skus, so maybe, maybe, they're only counting current/last gen ones in that number?

That could make it

Persona 4 Golden (vita)
Persona 4 Arena (Ps3+360)
Arena Ultimax (Ps3+360)
Persona 5 (PS3 +PS4 +PS4 special edition)
Persona 4 dancing all night (vita+vita special edition)
Persona Q (3DS + 3DS special edition)

Unless I missed a game or edition something that ruins this idea?

edit: On the other hand, etrian odyssey only has 7 as its number of titles, while there are 7 mainline games + the mystery dungeon spin off, so maybe skipping spin offs is what happened.
 
Hopefully by the time Persona 6 is a thing, it won't take seven fucking months to release the English localised version after Japan. Sega should interfere and make that localisation process as fast as possible. Also, if you want the series to expand beyond its typical audience and sell more, don't just rely on word-of-mouth tactics; give the series the marketing push it deserves, and let it have some sort of presence at any big media event keynotes (how it didn't get time during this year's PSX was baffling to me).
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
"Since 2014, we have been sending personnel to Paradise Casino, where they have been acquiring expertise..." Uh huh. Oh I'm sure they have, just not in the areas listed...

How so? I'd think the guys running operations for the various Sega arcade centers would be the best choice of existing staff to have skill sets that would translate best to their resort operations.
 
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