They are definitely not just tipping their toes anymore.
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I remember when it was "MS would only buy small AA devs due to Game Pass". Now, its "MS would only buy large publishers due to Game Pass".
Its not a mobile game, but if MS bought Sega they would own Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis.
But....Sony has been into mobile gaming for years. Fan fact: the Vita had a mobile games store. Playstation Mobile was a thing that went thru several revamps over the years. They are just expanding and going bigger with it vs the Sackboy Run type games.
They are definitely not just tipping their toes anymore.
Pokemon Unite hits 70 million downloads worldwide
The Pokemon Company has reported that over 70 million people worldwide have grabbed Pokemon Unite downloads across mobile and Switch.
Sony only had fate.
We are specifically talking about free to play online mobile games here, otherwise we would be talking about some casual games MS published for Windows Phone. Nintendo entered by licensing Pokemon to Niantic for Pokemon Go and that was huge. Henceforth, they have self published mobile titles.
Ever since the deal, you have been fighting this war overtime. I know the times are hard for you, but keep strong warrior.
Isn't most of those games Japanese only?We are specifically talking about free to play online mobile games here, otherwise we would be talking about some casual games MS published for Windows Phone. Nintendo entered by licensing Pokemon to Niantic for Pokemon Go and that was huge. Henceforth, they have self published mobile titles.
As for Aniplex, while Fate was the first one, they have an entire division to publish mobile titles out of anime IPs(which mostly factored into the Kadokawa deal by them and Tencent)Fire Emblem Heroes - Wikipedia
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People spend 16 billion a year on the Xbox brand and broke ass fanboys desperate to play their games here writing fanfiction to fantasize about them going third party lmfaooooo
Problem is complicated controller based games are trash on mobile unless you plug a controller into it.
The newer Aniplex titles yes. But the older ones have mostly been released World Wide. A thing about Asian mobile game publishers is that they rarely do simultaneous global releases, they will release the games locally and slowly roll it out world wide. Most games are not that successful, so it does not justify funding a English localization. Most of the time they also make more money locally(because Chinese, Japanese and Koreans can empty their wallet for these games like no one else would dare).
I think we need to consider what success criteria looks like, a 5% take of mobile gaming revenue is 4.5bn usd on a year in net rev, right?
Sony had Fate for years. And it continues to be a revenue cow.
Why is it "pulling more funds from console games" and "making bad mobile games" and leading to "obvious path to failure"? Why would not it help there own console business?
If they are, then why are they investing so much in to mobile like Pokemon Unite or Fate Grand Order. By your logic should not it be Xbox that should have entered mobile first, since there console business. They stayed out of the free to play online mobile market the longest.
People have been saying they will close down Xbox since forever.
I remember when ZhugeX said Microsoft will reduce investment to first party projects for Xbox, and next year Microsoft announced buying Ninja Theory and other devs.
The writing has been on the wall. MS just has deep pockets.
Fair enough, misread.
Current market, subscription works well. You can manage to get $10 from people, than $60.
And that’s exactly why GamePass or gaming streaming-services won't be the future.
I’ve yet to meet anyone that puts money into that ecosystem. Who are these people?Some data
You can see the growth trends for mobile significantly outstrips console and PC. Consoles spiked in 2020 but seems to be flattening post COVID.
And if projections are correct…
Mobile growing to $338bn by 2030 will leave other platforms as relatively niche performers if trends remain flat.
Sony’s well ahead of MS in the mobile game. Tencent is far ahead of everyone else.
Phil is playing catch up
The console segment itself is growing though, at least for Nintendo and Sony. Nothing shrinking about it, let’s not lump MS in with the others here.
Except games aren't movies, where you can just binge play them.
Phil Spencer's last interview before this one, said they've reached saturation with their sub service, and that F2P is the future.
Because there isn't enough xseries in the Market. And the pc section needs more work.Phil Spencer's last interview before this one, said they've reached saturation with their sub service, and that F2P is the future.
Game Pass is also on their 50+ million gen prior. Sub services are in constant sub and unsub mode. Just the nature of the service.
That is downside of consoles. They have a market cap.
Other streaming services on anything and everything are saturated as well. It's a content issue, more so.
Phil’s comment says the console (Xbox) is staying relatively flat, this statement isn’t in comparison to mobiles.
If the writing has been on the wall for 9 years with no progress to the actual prophesies of the wall, maybe we need to check the people seeing these "writings on the wall" first.
You do realize that ActiBliz's mobile games make more money than their PC/console titles with much lower investment? Why would they need to take funds from the Xbox/Bethesda first party division? You are acting like ActiBliz revenue suddenly disappeared and the entire gaming division has to run on Xbox/Bethesda division revenue. How are any of those claims "basic business"?
Yeah, it makes you want to not invest on Xbox who just started investing in mobile and instead wants to make you want to invest on other platforms who have been investing on mobile for 7 years and way too deep into it.
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