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[Jose92]

PlayStation 5 backwards compatibility tested - and it's fantastic

PS5 play your PS4 games better than ever before. Digital Foundry is impressed by one of PS5's most important and - up t…

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[Jose92]

 

[BlueXImpulse]

No 60fps Bloodborne.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

 

[Fake]

I missed the thread. Sorry.

 

[RoboFu]

Surprise! lol sorry, its just funny to me with all the speculation that it was hardware related and ended up.. BC its great ( if the game has a performance mode that is) thats anticlimatic for sure.

 

[clipperslipper]

Awesome! Great news for people upgrading from ps4.

 

[J_Gamer.exe]

So beat xbox at the thing they thought they had, the only thing so far, bc games?

Holy shit if so.....

 

[ethomaz]

I still don't get the appeal with old games payed via BC.

But nice to these that care.

Surprise! lol sorry, its just funny to me with all the speculation that it was hardware related and ended up.. BC its great ( if the game has a performance mode that is) thats anticlimatic for sure.

Wrong thread?

BTW that was not the "surprise" video.

 

[Portugeezer]

Must be terrible, Sony's lack of communication... Oh wait.

 

[LordOfChaos]

So pretty well everything that was worried about, or FUD'ed about, turned out great.

 

[RoboFu]

So beat xbox at the thing they thought they had, the only thing so far, bc games?

Holy shit if so.....

Doesn't the XsX automatically increase resolution and still play most games from each generation?

 

[Fake]

Is so depressing watch constant obssession with Crysis Remastered. 'Crytek will fix'... C'mon guys, move on.

 

[Birdo]

How can it be better than Series X BC when it only goes back one generation?

 

[Elias]

"The legendary disc version of Assassin's Creed Unity, with its unlocked frame-rate, produces a flawless 60 frames per second experience on Xbox Series X. The PlayStation 4 disc code is similarly unlocked, but certain areas of the game and depth-of-field-heavy cutscenes see performance plummet - sometimes as low as the mid 30s. "

Also, no 16x anisotropic filtering confirmed

 

[Blue Spring]

geordiemp Looks like the PS5 version of Sekiro is perfectly locked 60fps.

 

[Md Ray]

"Even better than Xbox Series X"

"Again this bizarre sort of -- it's like a lack of communication from Sony about what we were actually gonna be getting. There has not been much discussion from Sony at all about the situation with backward compatibility"

So they're just letting the games do the talking.

 

[RoboFu]

I still don't get the appeal with old games payed via BC.

But nice to these that care.


Wrong thread?

BTW that was not the "surprise" video.

You didnt watch the video huh? the very first minute says its the surprise they were talking about.

 

[Bittermich]

So they're just letting the games do the talking.

Sure about that, pal? I mean we all know that John loves to shit on Xbox. I mean he even said that Xbox doesn’t have a ray tracing title at launc, although we do have Watch Dogs Legions with Ray Tracing

Also, would love to know which games now do work or not.

 

[kuncol02]

So beat xbox at the thing they thought they had, the only thing so far, bc games?

Holy shit if so.....

Is it?
"The legendary disc version of Assassin's Creed Unity, with its unlocked frame-rate, produces a flawless 60 frames per second experience on Xbox Series X. The PlayStation 4 disc code is similarly unlocked, but certain areas of the game and depth-of-field-heavy cutscenes see performance plummet - sometimes as low as the mid 30s."

Is there any info how for example Assasisns Creed Syndicate is working? Or any other "bootable" game?

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

So basically almost the same as in XSX

It feels less stable though, but it seems to be similar.

 

[cudiye]

lol at sekiro performing at a locked 60fps on ps5 compared to series x that dips below. tHe MoSt PoWeRfUl CoNsOlE eVeR

 

[ethomaz]

You didnt watch the video huh? the very first minute says its the surprise they were talking about.

The article doesn't say it and Dark said it isn't on twitter.
Unless he was lying.

Edit - The "surprise" video is still coming.

 

[Mmnow]

This is the best news I could hope for for PS5. No auto-hdr is a real disappointment and it's interesting to see the quirks of both systems, but overall this is positive news.

So beat xbox at the thing they thought they had, the only thing so far, bc games?

Holy shit if so.....

From the article, it mentions that checkerboard titles remain checkerboard. So the example is Sekiro hitting 60 as opposed to 50+, but the Series X version is native 4k.

I wouldn't say that has anything beat, but it's still excellent for everybody.

 

[TLZ]

I still don't get the appeal with old games payed via BC.

I have a big backlog mate, and playing them at their best res and perf with much better hardware is great!

 

[THEAP99]

 

[RJMacready73]

christ at the end of the video that scene from Killzone still pretty much blows everything ive seen to date out of the water... man that game was such a fucking looker and now running at 60fps...

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

How can it be better than Series X BC when it only goes back one generation?

It's better if it's a PS4/Xbox One game that had 1080p/900p respective ceilings, but no mid-gen refresh patch.

A few other games will be better if the series X still can't lock 60 on the One X version, but PS5 can on the PS4Pro. They used the example of Sekiro which is Native and 50-60fps on Series X and Dynamic and 60fps on PS5, with resolution dropping to keep the 60fps.

All others will run better on Series X because either the One X version has better resolution targets (aka more 4k modes), more unlocked frame rate modes or both. Plus 16x AF and auto-HDR included.

 

[ShadowWolf712]

No 60fps Bloodborne.

Would that require From to update it? If so, I think we can abandon all hope on that front.

 

[RoboFu]

The article doesn't say it and Dark said it isn't on twitter.
Unless he was lying.

Edit - The "surprise" video is still coming.

at the end of the video he says " thats the big surpise, thats the great news " but anything else good is welcomed.

 

[TBiddy]

Glad to hear it. Can't wait to play the PS4 games I missed! Wonder why they weren't more forthcoming about it in their messaging.

Worth noting that one of the reasons for it "to run better than XSX" is this:

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Would that require From to update it? If so, I think we can abandon all hope on that front.

It will require a patch, yes.

 

[Fake]

No 60fps Bloodborne.

Is Bloodborne runs with unlock framerate to start?

 

[GHG]

People really need to stop associating silence or quietness with lack of confidence. Maybe it's a cultural thing or something but it does my head in.

Think Mcgregor vs Khabib.

Results matter, not how much you talk.

 

[Elias]

lol at sekiro performing at a locked 60fps on ps5 compared to series x that dips below. tHe MoSt PoWeRfUl CoNsOlE eVeR

Keep in mind sekiro runs at a lower resolution on ps5 due to the game having a lower resolution on ps4

 

[ethomaz]

Dark seems a bit less "low" that usual.... that is good for him.

 

[danielJackson]

Lord Saviur Cerny delivered what he promised

Good thing, I still have +50 good ps4 games to finish, if I get the time from playing demons souls

 

[SilentUser]

This is fantastic, honestly. This doesn't change anything about the awesome XSX BC, so it is basically a winner situation for everyone, specially the costumers.

Congratulations, Sony. You did it great!

 

[MrFunSocks]

So beat xbox at the thing they thought they had, the only thing so far, bc games?

Holy shit if so.....

How exactly does it beat the Xbox? Lol

You didnt watch the video huh? the very first minute says its the surprise they were talking about.

So like lots of us were saying, this “huge surprise” was literally nothing.

 

[Fake]

So, looks like the games Ubisoft say that would not work on PS5 are actually working.

 

[GHG]

I'm annoyed Bloodborne hasn't been dealt with.

They really need to get round to that, it's a flagship title.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Would that require From to update it? If so, I think we can abandon all hope on that front.

Hmm yes, kinda.
Since the IP belongs to Sony, I'm sure From gave Sony all the assets of the game and the source code, so theoretically Sony could get Bluepoint to add a 60fps setting and even fix the framepacing.

 

[BigLee74]

Great stuff, all the better for when I eventually get one when it is redesigned to not look offensive!

As expected, they suffer in different ways directly from the version they are playing.

XSX generally has higher resolution than PS5 when playing X1X/PS4 Pro games (with the draw back that one game in particular is not hitting 60 regularly as a result), whereas the XSX generally has a lower resolution when playing base console games (and will look not as sharp as a result).

Good BC showing from PS5 here (apart from missing PS3 gen completely).

 

[onesvenus]

Good job Sony, good job

 

[diffusionx]

So PS5 has solid BC and a real if underwhelming list of launch titles?

 

[Danteyke223]

I mean in the case of Hitman 1 the Series X runs 4k 60fps with slight dips, and the PS5 runs it locked 60FPS on 1440P... sooooo Kinda bullshit on DF's part saying PS5's better but whatever

 

[Orpheum]

Bloodborne needs an update...man come on sony, wtf

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Oh, saw it is running in a lower resolution on Ps5 with no additional features. Now that's understandable why the framerate is better there.

 

[acm2000]

both MS and Sony just need to allow us to choose what the max res is, series x is running back compat at higher res than ps5 with the sacrifice of a few dropped frames, but since ps5 is maxed at a lower res it gets the framerate advantage.

just let the end user choose the max resolution options, 4k, 2k, 1080p.

 

[vkbest]

"The legendary disc version of Assassin's Creed Unity, with its unlocked frame-rate, produces a flawless 60 frames per second experience on Xbox Series X. The PlayStation 4 disc code is similarly unlocked, but certain areas of the game and depth-of-field-heavy cutscenes see performance plummet - sometimes as low as the mid 30s. "

Also, no 16x anisotropic filtering confirmed

People forget that version was shitty on PS4 was running under 20fps, they had to patch the game