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PlayStation 5 Showcase on Wednesday 16 Sept

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Gimme a Puppeteer remaster for ps5 launch window Sony! (a basic 4k upscaled re-release would be enough)
It would at least keep Japan Studio busy for a while... Those poor devs must be tired of doing nearly nothing all these years.
(and Folklore... and Rain.. and Tokyo Jungle...)
 
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No way Sony is taking a loss on this thing. Why would they? Anything $599 and under is selling out regardless of what Xbox does. Price cut next christmas if needs be.
No way this would ever happen.. 499 is already a 100 increase regarding PS4 and PS4 Pro... trust me they will not mess this launch.. I’m however secretly expecting to be surprised with a 449 for the disc version.. I think this would have a tremendous mindshare effect.. Not sure if is worthy in the long therm though..
 

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I'm betting Sony will show games coming out in the next 2 years while hyping exclusives. Like some of the exclusives they purchased. We already know the launch line up is sparse but the intention is to justify the launch price. This is the event where they show vr games and more on peripherals, I would expect
 
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$499 is the highest for standard and $449 is the highest for digital. They are not going above that .
Even $499 might be questionable when you just know Microsoft would market the hell out of the fact their same price console is far more powerful.....Sony ain't that naive IMO.

I also wonder about Microsoft's 'ERP' and whether this is Phil being agile on price waiting to see which way Sony go.
 
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Well it's not going up unless they want to risk alienating all this good will they have created so far.
Well that would be one hell of a thread!

See forever we've expected, and all leaks have said MS were doing, the $299/$499 SKUs and their/our assumption was Sony most likely doing what worked best for them with a single $399 model. When Sony then surprisingly announced the DE most seem to assume there has to be a $100 delta. This really complicates pricing when the DE is identical spec otherwise.

I don't know why they can't do what I suggested with the same price for both SKUs ($399 or $449) with the DE being bundled with 12 months of PS+. All depends how much Sony will be pushing the DE I guess.
 

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I don't know why they can't do what I suggested with the same price for both SKUs ($399 or $449) with the DE being bundled with 12 months of PS+. All depends how much Sony will be pushing the DE I guess.
Isn't the maximum they've ever given away the 14 days free trial? 12 months would be unheard of! 🤔
 

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Isn't the maximum they've ever given away the 14 days free trial? 12 months would be unheard of! 🤔
I don't know but this will be their first digital only console so it seems to me to be a logical thing to bundle as an incentive. I wounder how many of those rumoured 5 million launch consoles will be the DE? 30%? 50%? more?
 
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I'm betting Sony will show games coming out in the next 2 years while hyping exclusives. Like some of the exclusives they purchased. We already know the launch line up is sparse but the intention is to justify the launch price. This is the event where they show vr games and more on peripherals, I would expect
Gran turismo, demon souls, ratchet and clank, spiderman mm is sparse? and thats from first party only. Im assuming these games will be available at or within the 1st couple months of ps5 release, but thats what we are waiting to here next week the official lineup.
 

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Gran turismo, demon souls, ratchet and clank, spiderman mm is sparse? and thats from first party only. Im assuming these games will be available at or within the 1st couple months of ps5 release, but thats what we are waiting to here next week the official lineup.
That's not a great launch lineup. At this point it's better than xbox but a race car game which will be the same as last gen but prettier, a remake with prettier graphics, the only next gen game shown by either consoles, and basically extended Dlc for a pretty but boring game (my opinion ,I hated spiderman). Most likely only MM is gonna be in 2020.
 

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That's not a great launch lineup. At this point it's better than xbox but a race car game which will be the same as last gen but prettier, a remake with prettier graphics, the only next gen game shown by either consoles, and basically extended Dlc for a pretty but boring game (my opinion ,I hated spiderman). Most likely only MM is gonna be in 2020.
Why is Demons Souls not a next gen game just because it's a remake? It's not a remaster, it's made from the ground up using modern rendering techniques, much higher poly counts, ray tracing and leverages the super fast I/O available too. Soulsborne has a cult fanbase, this is a game that can move systems.
 
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Gimme a Puppeteer remaster for ps5 launch window Sony! (a basic 4k upscaled re-release would be enough)
It would at least keep Japan Studio busy for a while... Those poor devs must be tired of doing nearly nothing all these years.
(and Folklore... and Rain.. and Tokyo Jungle...)
PS3 Sony is gone sorry to say, Japan studio is relegated to doing astrobot TRASH, i want a The Last Guy port, and a new Tokyo Jungle but its never going to happen, i would love to be proven wrong
 
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I wish Sony could give us some teasers before wednesday. So I have some energy for my workingdays before.
 

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PS3 Sony is gone sorry to say, Japan studio is relegated to doing astrobot TRASH, i want a The Last Guy port, and a new Tokyo Jungle but its never going to happen, i would love to be proven wrong
I wouldn't say trash.. But it's sad seeing a AAA studio devolve into AA/indie level.
At least other studios are evolving (like Bend).
 
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  • Silent Hill, Final Fantasy XVI and "RaySpace" announcements.
  • Spider-Man: Miles Morales story trailer; gameplay trailers for Demon's Souls and Returnal; and another look at Destruction All Stars, Gran Turismo 7 and Sackboy: A Big Adventure. No Ratchet & Clank/Horizon until The Game Awards.
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War zombies trailer; Resident Evil Village trailer + PSVR support announcement; plus some other third-party games.
  • And release date + price reveal at the end of the show.
Things such as the UI, the BC, services and a console teardown will be discussed via PS Blog during the next couple of weeks.
This would be perfect.
Just give me - Silent Hill, Miles Morales, Cold War, RE Village. I'll be ok seeing Ratchet/Horizon later on.
And obviously price, preorder date, release date.
Cherry on top would be the announcement of an all-black SKU.

It's a tad annoying that Sony has always been on the backfoot this year. What I mean is, they've always waited for MS to show their cards first. It's like they knew that the Xbox had more Tflops, HD space, etc. than they had (not that that is the end all be all) and they know those are buzzwords and if MS announced console specs after them MS would control more of the narrative with the better "buzzwords". I think the same is here with the price. I don't think there's a chance that the PS5 is cheaper than the XSX maybe it will be on par but there's no way they can match the XSS. I expect $399 (or $449) for the digital version and if we're lucky $499 for the full version and they will be losing significant money on each console. Again, that's why I think they've held back. They didn't want Xbox coming out with their price after them, undercutting them and controlling the narrative. They know that can't compete with the XSS price. Now they come out with their showcase, show some games, and justify their price point.

Just my 2 cents. I could be completely wrong. Hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised.
 
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Ignore them. They are just jealous morons who were proven wrong and can't admit or take defeat and be a good sport like real men. You have to realize on the interewebs you don't have to act like a real man. You can act like a pussy and get people to feel sorry for you, that does not work in rea life because the real world does not give a fuck.

A real legit person would say "Well, looks like I was wrong and it indeed turned out to be true. Nice too see real confirmation now and things line up with Dusk Golems leaks."

But no, they gotta go extra mile to make themselves feel good because they can't take internet defeat. Their image is too important to a bunch of random people they'll never interact with in real life.
It could be that but I think Dusk Golem somehow turned into this faceless ghoul who was easy to be hated.

In a way he comes across as some run of the mill guy who gets leaks, doesn't understand half of it and is in way over his head at times. I honestly cannot see any malicious intent. Not really sure what was going on with the whole PS5 struggling with 4K stuff but hey we all make mistakes.
 
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Why is Demons Souls not a next gen game just because it's a remake? It's not a remaster, it's made from the ground up using modern rendering techniques, much higher poly counts, ray tracing and leverages the super fast I/O available too. Soulsborne has a cult fanbase, this is a game that can move systems.


Anyone can clearly see that it's a really big upgrade. It certainly doesn't look like a PS3 game to me.

The shield that you collect form the boss is the one on his crotch
 
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Having watched that Bedrooms to Billions documentary it's interesting to imagine all the behind-the-scenes stuff going on at Sony right now.

I get the feeling they won't make the PS3 mistake. It won't be more than the XSX.

My heart tells me they go $449/$349 for regular/digital respectively, my head tells me $499/$399.
 

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It could be that but I think Dusk Golem somehow turned into this faceless ghoul who was easy to be hated.

In a way he comes across as some run of the mill guy who gets leaks, doesn't understand half of it and is in way over his head at times. I honestly cannot see any malicious intent. Not really sure what was going on with the whole PS5 struggling with 4K stuff but hey we all make mistakes.
It was not a malicious intent but the fanboys love to twist shit and turn a fly into an elephant. Sad but reality.
 

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Having watched that Bedrooms to Billions documentary it's interesting to imagine all the behind-the-scenes stuff going on at Sony right now.

I get the feeling they won't make the PS3 mistake. It won't be more than the XSX.

My heart tells me they go $449/$349 for regular/digital respectively, my head tells me $499/$399.
I’ll throw you a curveball:

$499/$349. DE buyers are locked into the PS Store. Package it with a 3 month Plus trial and a 1 month Now trial and go hard on services.
 

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I’ll throw you a curveball:

$499/$349. DE buyers are locked into the PS Store. Package it with a 3 month Plus trial and a 1 month Now trial and go hard on services.
I was actually thinking about the DE - what's going to happen when Mom'n'Pop go into their local store to get their kid a PS5 for Christmas, they know he/she wants a PS5 but there's a chance they weren't told about the difference between the DE and the regular edition - they just get the DE because it was the (in your scenario - much) cheaper option.

They buy a bunch of games at the store to go with it and get home, come Christmas they find out those (physical) games are useless on the DE.

Of course this isn't going to happen (hopefully) at somewhere like Gamestop where the staff should be pretty clear with customers (if anything, they would want people to buy the disc-version), but what about Best Buy, or your regular shops that sell everything under the sun (including games consoles)?

It's not a strictly PS5 problem because the XSS exists, but with the XSS the box is totally different. With PS5 DE, unless the packaging is totally different and unless staff are given some script about it being a digital-only device, you might end up with a lot of people feeling burned. To the untrained eye you'd be forgiven for not seeing the difference between a PS5 and PS5 DE just from the packaging alone.

Obviously none of this might happen but it could!

Any thoughts?
 
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That's not a great launch lineup. At this point it's better than xbox but a race car game which will be the same as last gen but prettier, a remake with prettier graphics, the only next gen game shown by either consoles, and basically extended Dlc for a pretty but boring game (my opinion ,I hated spiderman). Most likely only MM is gonna be in 2020.
Lmao you're trying too hard. A racecar game? Anyone can make a game seem not good if you reduce it like that.

Halo is just another pew pew game but not prettier than last gen. See?
 
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Lmao you're trying too hard. A racecar game? Anyone can make a game seem not good if you reduce it like that.

Halo is just another pew pew game but not prettier than last gen. See?
Your allowed to recognize how stale most of the industry is. Just because it's a PS5 exclusive doesn't mean the games exciting.
 

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MS is a $1.5TN company, I just can't see how Sony can afford to compete on price.
Makes you wonder how MS would've priced Xbox One if they didn't initially (and arrogantly) force everyone to buy a Kinect. If you think they probably wanted about $100/$150 for the Kinect, they could've undercut the PS4 if they hadn't totally fucked it up.

This time around you'd think they could undercut the PS5 if they wanted to. XSX and PS5 is about as apples to apples as it gets since the two companies first started competing.
 
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I was actually thinking about the DE - what's going to happen when Mom'n'Pop go into their local store to get their kid a PS5 for Christmas, they know he/she wants a PS5 but there's a chance they weren't told about the difference between the DE and the regular edition - they just get the DE because it was the (in your scenario - much) cheaper option.

They buy a bunch of games at the store to go with it and get home, come Christmas they find out those (physical) games are useless on the DE.

Of course this isn't going to happen (hopefully) at somewhere like Gamestop where the staff should be pretty clear with customers (if anything, they would want people to buy the disc-version), but what about Best Buy, or your regular shops that sell everything under the sun (including games consoles)?

It's not a strictly PS5 problem because the XSS exists, but with the XSS the box is totally different. With PS5 DE, unless the packaging is totally different and unless staff are given some script about it being a digital-only device, you might end up with a lot of people feeling burned. To the untrained eye you'd be forgiven for not seeing the difference between a PS5 and PS5 DE just from the packaging alone.

Obviously none of this might happen but it could!

Any thoughts?
Whats the Xbox fans say concern trolling?

Anyway the difference in your scenario vs the xss one is even if lil Johnny gets the de ps5 he's getting THE SAME SYSTEM. That's obviously not the case with Xbox.
 

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Whats the Xbox fans say concern trolling?

Anyway the difference in your scenario vs the xss one is even if lil Johnny gets the de ps5 he's getting THE SAME SYSTEM. That's obviously not the case with Xbox.
Not really concern trolling. I don't even like the Xbox ;)

Surely the fact it looks identical is the issue unless the boxes are different. With Xbox it'll be "Hey mom make sure to get the big black Xbox" so she knows what to look out for. With PS5 DE, it's like "Look on the box for a black slit, if it doesn't have one get the other one". Don't underestimate the amount of brainless parents who will buy the wrong one.
 

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Just a reminder

Hip-Hop gamer is still saying PlayStation 5 will be BC with Playstation 1-4, so I guess we should find out Wednesday.



Sony has to show their Backwards compatibility features soon and I hope they show off enhancements for their PS4 biggest titles.
 

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Lmao you're trying too hard. A racecar game? Anyone can make a game seem not good if you reduce it like that.

Halo is just another pew pew game but not prettier than last gen. See?
That's true to a point but in the end GT is just a racing game with a vroom vroom. It's the same things with better textures. There's no story or character to bring depth to it. It's a car rolling around a track