50M units as PSV total physical software sales in Japan is way way too high.
- Vita managed around 50 million physical software sales in Japan, which is a similar result to what we are anticipating for PS4
Thanks for the informative post and for the clarification I had the wrong information for the PSV physical sales50M units as PSV total physical software sales in Japan is way way too high.
PSV total physical software sales in Japan is 24M units per Media Create.
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Though 50M and something is indeed what PS4 will end up selling in term of physical software.
Do you know where to find the 80% figure in South Korea and Taiwan? I read through the MCVUK article assuming that's where you got the number from and it's not there.Overall 3rd Parties will have key decisions to make, and it's not only about Japan - East Asia is trending the same way. Nintendo have already caught up to the PS4 in China despite only launching officially in December 2019, they currently have around 80% of the hardware and software market in South Korea and Taiwan, they will enter Thailand officially next year. 3rd Parties could have ignored the Switch if it was only popular in Japan, but PS retained leadership in East Asia, but with the current trends - they have two major markets for their games to consider.
Do you know where to find the 80% figure in South Korea and Taiwan? I read through the MCVUK article assuming that's where you got the number from and it's not there.
Thanks for the info. I'm not surprised that Taiwan is following similar trends to Japan. I have relatives in Taiwan and their impression is that Nintendo and PC are the go-to platforms. Ghost of Tsushima made some noise, which Media Create Taiwan also showed. But other than that, it has been all Nintendo.Media-create Whitebook provides this data, we don't have anything official for this year but these markets are up 150% YoY for Nintendo this year and last year they had 51% in Taiwan and 63% in South Korea. They are basically mirroring the pattern of Japan where Switch had 65% of the market last year and saw an uptick to 90% this year.
There is also a weekly Top 5 released for the two countries and it's dominated by by Switch titles 90% of the time since New Horizon launched and Ring Fit started to get it's supply problems resolved.
Stupid? Even Nintendo give up and released a Trojan horse to "trick" the home console market :/ I don't know if some of you live just in their bubble or simply not want to accept that realityThis 'japan is moving away from home consoles myth' is so stupid it makes my head hurt
Prior generation consoles sales don't support that at all and as for the current situation
Nintendo doesn't have a tradtional home console on the market
XBOX has never been a factor in Japan
and Sony moved HQ to US and has been pushing anti-Japan everything since 2016
Japan isn't moving away from playstation, playstation is moving away from japan
also they never should have killed the vita while it was still popluar there and started censoring for no real reason
From a Japanese gamer or US fan of Japanese games persepective Playstation sucks now and it moving away from what made them great in the first place
The PS5 is basically this dude
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Playstation and XBOX don't really appeal to casuals as much as Nintendo so they can't get away with making an underpowered system which they will have to if they want to have a reasonable price point. Power consumption is another issue too. It would end up being more like a laptop than switch if they want to pack that much stuff into it.How hard would it be to create a portable PS4? Always wondered why the Big 3 three have avoided the concept and that the concept as a whole hasn't been touched since the 90s.
It would be kinda awesome to be like "Oh you know the PS4? Yeah that's fully portable now and all of your digitally bought games work on that day 1"
What would you say is the cause of Japan moving away from the console market?Stupid? Even Nintendo give up and released a Trojan horse to "trick" the home console market :/ I don't know if some of you live just in their bubble or simply not want to accept that reality
Do you think Nintendo Switch would have sold well if it was a traditional home console?What would you say is the cause of Japan moving away from the console market?
As well as it has done? No I don't think so, but Ialso don't think that it would have sold as well if it was just a portable.Do you think Nintendo Switch would have sold well if it was a traditional home console?
As well as it has done? No I don't think so, but Ialso don't think that it would have sold as well if it was just a portable.
I do think a traditional home console Switch with the exact same lineup (and one that wasn't as badly marketed as the Wii U) would have done fairly well and sold better than the PS4 or PS3 in Japan. Nintendo's relative strength in software is much higher in Japan than it is in the West.
Did you missed the WiiU? Would be a disaster another home console for Nintendo. Even if they handle a better overall sales (but I doubt and in a minimal way) no way in the hell a traditional home console would sell decently in Japan by anyone.As well as it has done? No I don't think so, but Ialso don't think that it would have sold as well if it was just a portable.
I do think a traditional home console Switch with the exact same lineup (and one that wasn't as badly marketed as the Wii U) would have done fairly well and sold better than the PS4 or PS3 in Japan. Nintendo's relative strength in software is much higher in Japan than it is in the West.
Then why is the Switch you can play on a TV selling much much better than the cheaper, portable only one?nah, switch being only portable would have sold as good as its selling now.
Launch aligned the Wii U sold fairly similarly if not better than the PS4 in Japan (at the start). It was only when the PS4 line up began increasing that it started to beat the Wii U. A Nintendo platform with the publisher's combined output, even one that is home console only, would do very well in Japan.It's not that point. Did you missed the WiiU? Would be a disaster another home console for Nintendo. Well maybe could handle a better overall sales (but I doubt and in a minimal way) but no way in the hell a traditional home console would sell decently in Japan
Then why is the Switch you can play on a TV selling much much better than the cheaper, portable only one?
Launch aligned the Wii U sold fairly similarly if not better than the PS4 in Japan (at the start). It was only when the PS4 line up began increasing that it started to beat the Wii U. A Nintendo platform with the publisher's combined output, even one that is home console only, would do very well in Japan.
It's not just a few bucks more, it's 10,000 yen more (a 50 per cent higher price). The fact that the vast majority of Switch buyers are willing to pay so much more to play games on a TV shows that they value that feature.One thing does not invalidate the other. Most people will bite if given the chance for a few bucks to have that extra feature. But Having it ot not wont make a sell -or not- IMO.
It's not just a few bucks more, it's 10,000 yen more (a 50 per cent higher price). The fact that the vast majority of Switch buyers are willing to pay so much more to play games on a TV shows that they value that feature.
To look at things from another angle, one of the biggest games in Japan this year (Ring Fit) can not be played portably. A portable only Switch would not have had this key peice of software.
Yes we're all dealing in hypotheticals here but it's fun to speculateOk, fair enough. Of course anything we can suggest is counterfactual, so we dont know for sure, but your argument is logical.