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PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan on making PS5 more successful than PS4
"I've done them all, and this has easily been the most extraordinary PlayStation launch of any of them."
Agreed. Halo at launch isn't going to make or break Xbox. xbox 360 launched without a halo game and sold 80 million units. As long as MS follows it up with lots of first party games, similar to what they did with the 360, they will do much better than people are expecting. Sony is not invincible.How can they when the sentiment about MS and Nintendo was the worst at the beginning of last generation and now the Switch is well accepted and many more seem positive on MS?
Agreed. Halo at launch isn't going to make or break Xbox. xbox 360 launched without a halo game and sold 80 million units. As long as MS follows it up with lots of first party games, similar to what they did with the 360, they will do much better than people are expecting. Sony is not invincible.
"I am astonished at the number of people who are like that and writing to me. It's really taken me back. It's indicating that demographically the age profile is expanding rapidly with each generation. And at the same time, I get emails from really young gamers, frequently beautifully written...
They also launched a 10/10 Halo game early in the system's life, before many of those 80 million were sold.
If Infinite turns out to be a 10/10 game like #3, sure the launch will be a footnote, but what are the odds of that?
Agreed. Halo at launch isn't going to make or break Xbox. xbox 360 launched without a halo game and sold 80 million units. As long as MS follows it up with lots of first party games, similar to what they did with the 360, they will do much better than people are expecting. Sony is not invincible.
Yeah it started well because they had a 12-18month advance on launch, really capitalized on the (then) novelty of online gaming and had an admirably broad range of software for all tastes and price-points from the start. It also didn't hurt that they took the OG Xbox (which was actually doing pretty well in the US) out behind the woodshed and stuck a bullet in its brain, to encourage rapid adoption.
The circumstances that led to 360's success are not at all what we have today, so expecting a similar result isn't what should be predicted. Not to mention the obvious fact that MS are way more intent on selling platform agnostic services than console hardware/software. Consoles are an element of, and not the core of their strategy.
I agree, but I'd like to detail some few things and I'd add an additional points:Xbox supporters don’t realise they are never gonna have a console like the 360 again and they will probably never sell more than 50–60 million units again.
1. It launched 1 year ahead of PS3
2. Was cheaper than PS3
3. Was easier to develope than the PS3
4. Took a bunch of Playstation centric games and ”exclusives“ or titles more associated with Playstaion like Tekken, Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry etc
5. 360 had a far better online service and started the trend and popularity of indies and DLC and timed exclusive Cod maps etc
6. 3rd Party games mostly ran better on 360
7. Playstation launching horribly and all the bad press it got those days.
Depite all this, the PS3 still sold 80+ million units and outsold the 360.
Not gonna ever be close again
"I used to believe in generations like you, but then I took an arrow to my revenue."Benji pointed out on Twitter that Jim also states their stance has changed on next gen and they now plan to heavily support 1st party games on PS4 through at least 2022.. so for those people that keep claiming there will only be a rare cross-gen game here or there can chill on that. We can probably expect most 1st party games from Sony to also come to PS4 to take advantage of the huge PS4 userbase. I've been saying this for forever and got banned from the next gen speculation thread for saying so i guess i get banned from this thread too haha
I Jim I trust......
By growing the market. He talks in the interview about the growth opportunities from expanding into and new geographies and demographics.How can they when the sentiment about MS and Nintendo was the worst at the beginning of last generation and now the Switch is well accepted and many more seem positive on MS?
How can they when the sentiment about MS and Nintendo was the worst at the beginning of last generation and now the Switch is well accepted and many more seem positive on MS?
Every new console launch say the same thing.![]()
PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan on making PS5 more successful than PS4
"I've done them all, and this has easily been the most extraordinary PlayStation launch of any of them."www.gamesindustry.biz
Bring back Motorstorm and Syphon Filter, then you can say you got something..If Sony manages to deliver great games of:
TLOU3
GOD OF WAR 2
UNCHARTED 5
BLOODBORNE 2
HORIZION 2
RATCHET AND CLANK
SPIDERMAN 2
Plus :
GOSH OF T. 2
DAYS GONE 2
GRAND TURISMO
And 2 or 3 new AAA IPs than can fill the possible holes of Elders Scrols , Fallout and Doom.
They will be fine.....
If you have $500 for a new console i reccommend the xbox series x as its the most powerful console on the market, has bc crossing 4 generations of consoles, has gamepass where for a cool $15 per month you have access to hundreds of games which will include day one the big microsoft exclusives such as halo infinite, fable 3, elder scrolls 6, fallout 69, avowed, perfect dark 2. It will alow you to use all ur existing xbox one peripherals and will be the only next gen console to support the full rdna 2 feature set of the amd gpu’s meaning higher visual fidelity.I bought some stock in Sony because I am confident the PS5 is going to be super successful. Especially in light of the way MS shit their pants with Halo and the launch library and are now talking about Xbox 360 games. If you have $500 for a new console I would recommend the PS5 over the XSX completely.
That said if they want the PS5 to be more successful than PS4 they need to branch out and deliver more than just grim third person action adventure games. Astro Playroom is hopefully an indication that they understand this and will be delivering that.
You are not supposed to copy-paste the astroturfing guide!If you have $500 for a new console i reccommend the xbox series x as its the most powerful console on the market, has bc crossing 4 generations of consoles, has gamepass where for a cool $15 per month you have access to hundreds of games which will include day one the big microsoft exclusives such as halo infinite, fable 3, elder scrolls 6, fallout 69, avowed, perfect dark 2. It will alow you to use all ur existing xbox one peripherals and will be the only next gen console to support the full rdna 2 feature set of the amd gpu’s meaning higher visual fidelity.
Also the party chats are private.
If not use the money towards a gaming pc where you can still subscribe to gamepass anyway and have access to all the awesome games on the service.
If you have $500 for a new console i reccommend the xbox series x as its the most powerful console on the market, has bc crossing 4 generations of consoles, has gamepass where for a cool $15 per month you have access to hundreds of games which will include day one the big microsoft exclusives such as halo infinite, fable 3, elder scrolls 6, fallout 69, avowed, perfect dark 2. It will alow you to use all ur existing xbox one peripherals and will be the only next gen console to support the full rdna 2 feature set of the amd gpu’s meaning higher visual fidelity.
Also the party chats are private.
If not use the money towards a gaming pc where you can still subscribe to gamepass anyway and have access to all the awesome games on the service.
TLOU3
GOD OF WAR 2
UNCHARTED 5
BLOODBORNE 2
HORIZION 2
RATCHET AND CLANK
SPIDERMAN 2
Plus :
GOSH OF T. 2
DAYS GONE 2
GRAND TURISMO
How can they when the sentiment about MS and Nintendo was the worst at the beginning of last generation and now the Switch is well accepted and many more seem positive on MS?
The PS5 will NEVER be as successful as the PS4, they fucked-up way too much compared to the near perfect PS4 for it to happen. The question is whether it will even sell as much as the PS1 or PS3.
If you have $500 for a new console i reccommend the xbox series x as its the most powerful console on the market, has bc crossing 4 generations of consoles, has gamepass where for a cool $15 per month you have access to hundreds of games which will include day one the big microsoft exclusives such as halo infinite, fable 3, elder scrolls 6, fallout 69, avowed, perfect dark 2. It will alow you to use all ur existing xbox one peripherals and will be the only next gen console to support the full rdna 2 feature set of the amd gpu’s meaning higher visual fidelity.
Also the party chats are private.
If not use the money towards a gaming pc where you can still subscribe to gamepass anyway and have access to all the awesome games on the service.
These are the arguements people used to use against Xbox when it was selling well.....Is that what people really want tho, a Sequelstation? Back in the days, and by that I mean 10-20 years ago, Sony was known for A) variety of genres, and B) new IPs, then with PS4 it was just new IPs, since almost all their games are just TPP cinematic action games plus GT, and no offence but your above scenario is even worse than that, like, why even bother with a new console if those games can easily run on PS4? For example, Insomniac is releasing yet again another Sider-Man and R&C, their next game should IMO be a completely new title, new IP, with new gameplay, universe, characters. SSM haven't done anything than GoW since forever other than rebooting the series, and I'm confident they could've create a new flagship IP for Playstation if only given the chance. As always, only time will tell, within a year or two all Sony's studios will release their games (sequels), we will see where they'll go from there on, but something needs to change.
Is that what people really want tho, a Sequelstation? Back in the days, and by that I mean 10-20 years ago, Sony was known for A) variety of genres, and B) new IPs, then with PS4 it was just new IPs, since almost all their games are just TPP cinematic action games plus GT, and no offence but your above scenario is even worse than that, like, why even bother with a new console if those games can easily run on PS4? For example, Insomniac is releasing yet again another Sider-Man and R&C, their next game should IMO be a completely new title, new IP, with new gameplay, universe, characters. SSM haven't done anything than GoW since forever other than rebooting the series, and I'm confident they could've create a new flagship IP for Playstation if only given the chance. As always, only time will tell, within a year or two all Sony's studios will release their games (sequels), we will see where they'll go from there on, but something needs to change.
How can they when the sentiment about MS and Nintendo was the worst at the beginning of last generation and now the Switch is well accepted and many more seem positive on MS?
I wouldn't be too sure. 2013 Nintendo fucked up Wii U, Xbox fucked up almost everything and in the end Sony had the most powerful and cheapest console (the most important factor) at launch. This year they neither have the most powerful console nor the cheapest console and Nintendo and Microsoft are serious competition again. Sony's advantage in terms of hardware sales is that Microsoft ports and streams everything on other devices. My guess is that they will hit the 100 million but they don't beat the PS4.I read this As a parody post, Ps5 is launching in a much better position than Ps4.
Next few months will be rough for you, I feel bad but I'm bookmarking your post.
Games are so expensive to make these days that it's hard to offer the variety we saw on the PSOne/PS2 days.
Yeah it started well because they had a 12-18month advance on launch, really capitalized on the (then) novelty of online gaming and had an admirably broad range of software for all tastes and price-points from the start. It also didn't hurt that they took the OG Xbox (which was actually doing pretty well in the US) out behind the woodshed and stuck a bullet in its brain, to encourage rapid adoption.
The circumstances that led to 360's success are not at all what we have today, so expecting a similar result isn't what should be predicted. Not to mention the obvious fact that MS are way more intent on selling platform agnostic services than console hardware/software. Consoles are an element of, and not the core of their strategy.