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PlayStation Chief Jack Tretton: How To Sell Vita, Navigate Clouds, And Debut The PS4
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It's like Bizarro GAF today. Yoshida speaks sense, a type of logic that many GAF members have taken issue with in the past - but now it's fine! Tretton comes off as a lunatic going against Carmack's comments that next-gen consoles could be 10x more powerful than the current gen - an opinion many seem to agree with and promote - and yet, Tretton is right.
Some of you people are confusing / confused as hell.
Some of you people are confusing / confused as hell.
I wonder what focus Sony will make for PS4 anyway. It's too early for cloud gaming or a new disc format, MS and Nintendo are both titans in motion control gaming, and now Nintendo's doing the controller streaming and HD gaming, and MS is also surely going to inprove HD gaming as well with high density discs. So 3D gaming? Hi-Deffier? Not a great position to be in, in my opinion.
Anticitizen One
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They wont start talking about PS 4 until at least CES 2012 maybe even wait until shortly before next E3. They still have about a year to go.
timetokill said:
I'd say that taken from a certain twisted Sony context everything he says is true.
Sure Mario is for everyone, but Nintendo systems typically havent had the broad range of games like you would find on a PlayStation looking back at previous consoles they don't really have an answer to games like GTA, Gran Turismo, God of War, Twisted Metal. There are more factors to demografics than age.
As far as nowhere to go with tech, what else is there to add to a console? Tech will always have incremental upgrades, but with a system that already has every multimedia function you could ask for (and some you didn't) where else is there to go? It's mostly just chest thumping saying anything that could be added past this point already has been (by Sony first), that there is no real new innovation in the forseeable future, only refinements.
TheExecutive
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RavenFox said:
Sorry if I seemed wound up because thats not the case. However, there was nothing good about this interview. Its the same drivel we have heard a before with no real new insight or understanding.
TheExecutive
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Vinci said:
The Yoshida interview was 1000x better than this PR speak.
TheExecutive
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rpmurphy said:
10-15 million peripherals is by no means a titan. I feel MS is much more confused about their position in the market than sony is...
perfectnight
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PS2 = best console of all time
I bought another one last month and gave away my old one. lols
I bought another one last month and gave away my old one. lols
TheExecutive
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paskowitz said:
Yes, for forbes magazine its a great article. However, its crap for anyone who pays any attention to gaming and since this is a gaming forum- well, you get the jist.
zerokoolpsx
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Really? I just can't take this seriously haha.
RSTEIN said:
It is an interview with FORBES.
Are you expecting memes and witting warm fuzzies for the internets?
This is not Entertainment Weekly, this is not Rolling Stone this is Forbes.
This was more for shareholders than anyone else and it was a good interview and paints a strong outlook.
TheExecutive
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I lol'dxbhaskarx said:
Still love you Sony!
TheExecutive
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Sinoox said:"And technologically, I dont think its possible to provide any advancement beyond what we have [the PS3]."
What?
The only sense I can make out of that is that it is financially unfeasible for sony to consider a new console that is leaps and bounds beyond the PS3. So from a business viewpoint he may be correct.
Betta Lines
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Cell processor yoSinoox said:"And technologically, I dont think its possible to provide any advancement beyond what we have [the PS3]."
What?
Why is "And technologically, I dont think its possible to provide any advancement beyond what we have [the PS3]." such a dramatic mystery to some?
It has nothing to do with not adding more memory, or a better gpu or a better cpu.
Motion controller- check
Blu ray movies and gaming - check
Streaming multimedia - check
Robust online network - check
Full high definition gaming experience - check
Full 3D support- check
Integration with hand held gaming system - check
Web Browsing- check
Constantly growing list of online multimedia content delivery partners ala Netflix, ESPN3, MLB- check
I am sure there are others I am forgetting.
Again this is Forbes, and they want shareholders to feel like they have a stable framework in place and not that they are playing catch up.
It has nothing to do with not adding more memory, or a better gpu or a better cpu.
Motion controller- check
Blu ray movies and gaming - check
Streaming multimedia - check
Robust online network - check
Full high definition gaming experience - check
Full 3D support- check
Integration with hand held gaming system - check
Web Browsing- check
Constantly growing list of online multimedia content delivery partners ala Netflix, ESPN3, MLB- check
I am sure there are others I am forgetting.
Again this is Forbes, and they want shareholders to feel like they have a stable framework in place and not that they are playing catch up.
Holy shit at the reaction in here. What do you expect a high-level business executive to say? Oh here is the PSVita, oh btw, PS4 announcement next year so hold onto your money. Give me a break. He is fully aware of PS4 development; they just want to continue being profitable with the PS3.
onQ123 said:
Ah yes, still hard as hell to find a handful of people on one server with a headset yet everyone chants the cross game chat mantra.
But yes, if for no other reason than the other guy has it they need it in there.
Well perhaps there is something to look forward to in the PS4 after all.
He is right.
Right now is a bad time to try to launch a ps4, ps3 is still at $300, needs to be at $150 or below, IMO.
With the huge changes with ati and nvidia gpus from 40nm to 28nm next years. It would be foolish to try and launch a console next year. 2013-2014 would make a lot more sense. By then 28 or 20 nm would be ready for prime time.
Right now is a bad time to try to launch a ps4, ps3 is still at $300, needs to be at $150 or below, IMO.
With the huge changes with ati and nvidia gpus from 40nm to 28nm next years. It would be foolish to try and launch a console next year. 2013-2014 would make a lot more sense. By then 28 or 20 nm would be ready for prime time.
Grampa Simpson
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There will not be a new generation until one of the parties takes the plunge into a console that's truly a generation ahead - a 10x jump. It will avalanche from there, and I don't think the Wii U is the console that's going to set it off.
No new consoles past the Wii U until 2016.
No new consoles past the Wii U until 2016.
Grampa Simpson
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Get off my lawn!Gravijah said:
Uno Venova
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This 1000x this.MuseManMike said:
How people still get surprised by the comments like Tretton makes is stunning.
Hex said:
That makes it worse. Here's this guy puffing out his chest, claiming that the PS3 has been some sort of shining beacon while Nintendo and MS race to catch up. Meanwhile the company has lost market share, its industry dominance, technological leadership, and lost billions on the PS3. The stock is near an all time low (to be fair the earthquake obviously factors big into this).As a shareholder, I would be PISSED.
OldJadedGamer
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TheExecutive said:
Yoshida has a development background. Tretton was in charge of marketing and got his position because Kaz left to head up SCEI.
Well it is...alr1ghtstart said:
Even Nintendo stated this. Both my aunts have a freakin Wii and neither 1 of them have ever been into gaming. Hell, my grandma even tried out the Wii.
Entry level is the correct word...why do you think the Wii has been so successful? It taped into an audience that hasnt really paid any attention to gaming.
That is arguably an even ballsier statement, then. Look at what he said... there is no possible advancement. I remember hearing from Sony that they were making things the consumer didn't even realize they wanted yet. Now they are basically saying, "we give up, there's nowhere to go from here."Hex said:
Not that they even have everything. Motion controller, check? Is Kinect the same technology? If we're just checking boxes, Kinect is clearly a kind of thing that they don't have. And they even took some features out of the PS3, namely BC and Linux support, which makes it even more ridiculous to say there can't be advancements.
staticneuron
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RSTEIN said:
What do you expect him to say? It seems like you wouldn't be happy no matter what he said. He also never said MS and Ninty was in a race to catch up. Quotes like
and
Makes him seem to imply that this isn't a race at all and everybody has their own stake.
The lowest for SNE in the past ten years was actually $16.60 so it isn't true that it is at an all time low.
And things are looking up in terms of sales and expectations on all fronts for Sony, I doubt any reasonable shareholder would be in a fit of rage over past actions. It is active and I am sure those that are still around were planning on the long haul anyways.
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