It's funny because I've never thought of pc as competing platform I think of the pc market as digital real estate and there's loads of it up for grabs with plenty of ways to get people spending in your eco system it's just the way things are moving now I guess .
So from nearly every store that sells cd's or movies in my local area. I can tell you right now that almost every cd music store is gone and all of the movie stores are gone. Best buy's movie section is now one little aisle compared to the like 8 rows of movies they had in the past, the cd section is gone
I'm not saying that you can't buy them. I was trying to prove that with the vinyl records since they still exists. Their will always be enthusiast who buys blu rays ,cd, and vinyl but the mainstream audience will eventually move on. Isn't that kind of the reason Limited run games exists.
Console exclusive means that it is exclusive to one console, even if its on PC. Microsoft popularized the term after they started putting all their games on PC. Sony uses it too for games like Death Stranding, Street Fighter V, etc.
So you agree that Jim is not going the right route about it anyway.
All their key console, game and game subscription and GOTY awards metrics are better than ever have been for any platform holder, so don't need to hurry for improvements.
Stadia rumor was debunked. Kojima isn't a Sony employee or slave. He has his own independent studio and maybe just got a better offer from MS if this rumor is true. Or maybe the game is Death Stranding Xbox Edition. Or maybe the rumor is just bullshit.
Jimbo is in the right route, he's performing better than his competition and than all the previous guys in his position in all fronts. They are making more money, selling more consoles, selling more games, selling more subscriptions and winning more GOTY awards than anyone else now and before.
Absolutely, one thing that is worring me about actual Sony is they're seem only targeting the +7 millions copies games sales. Actual Sony be like "DS didn't sold 7 millions copies"and that's it.
For me Jim is just the icing on the cake of late. They've been moving more and more from the playstation that I loved and was hyped for (fanboy cringe
). I know lots of folks loved playstation during the ps4 because of the exclusive first party games but it was the third party Japanese games exclusives that made me fall in love with Playstation back in the day. It's why I'm so critical of Sony. It's why I loved the xbox 360 because of all of those jrpgs.
You forgot that a platform owner takes in around 30% of sales on their platform... If bringing exclusives to PC eats out their other revenue streams by lowering console hw sales (less games sold on their platform).
Ah got ya. Yeah now that GP is the thing for MS, if it doesn't work out you definitely can't go back. It's the future of Xbox.The ship has done sailed away so we can't ever go back to that. I completely agree that GP on PC and GP on console are one in the same for MS, they get the upfront revenue and a piece of in-game revenue since it's all handled via their store on PC.
I'm not sure how GP on PS would work in that theoretical scenario, I'm sure Sony would want a cut of everything. Do they split the traditional cut, or the dev/publisher has to give up more on in-game purchases or what?
At any rate, I just look at everything from my completely biased personal point of view. I hope GP doesn't go over to PS, just because I like just about everything about MS's approach to consoles better than Sony's. GP on PS might make PS the de facto console eliminating the market for an Xbox, and I'd rather have an Xbox.
Kids don't even know what Game Pass is.
No, assuming that the market is there we will see the same as in movie/TV streaming. Sony will boost PSNow to compete, Steam, GoG, Epic, Nintendo, etc. Will create their own services (maybe EA/Ubisoft/Activision too).. eaxh will compete, and if you want a games collection you're going to have to get many (like Marvel? Disney, like DC? Get whoever has it, like the boys? Get amazon, etc.)
Eco system warriors that's who.
Why do some people on this site sound like soulless marketers? 'Invest into a company's ecosystem?' What the fuck are you talking about?
It can be argued why do we even need platforms?
People play games, not sales.
It’s not that complicated. Who’s going to stand in line for a PS6 when all the games are coming to a platform you already own? Exclusives generally makes company’s offerings and services better or unique to attract an audience. That’s normally what drives people to products or services. It molds their identity and uniqueness. I’m not saying it’s good having tons of services and consoles for all the games, but imo it does make companies try harder and give reasons to check out the competition.
Very true. They all play the same content but they do it differently. OLED TVs and LED TV’s play the same movies and games, but they look different doing it. You have a choice as to which TV suits your needs and preferences. Klipsch speakers all play the same music, yet some people prefer the sound of Bowers and Wilkins speakers.
We'll be there! Mostly to ignore the topics of discussion and just talk about how well we think GP is doing financially even if it doesn't have any effect on us whatsoever. But, we will try to get ahold of those "attorneys" that we need to speak to about getting God of War, Spiderman, and TLoU on GP.
Really?
I really don't think what we want matters. In the end, things will happen which is most beneficial to the corporates. And these days subs are the rage and that will not change anytime soon and no matter what we do Industry is heading there. Can you imagine Xbox and Sony ever releasing a digital console a few years back? Now, they've done it.
this is simply because you, like many, use an old and incorrect metric to measure the (huge) success that gamepass is having. It is clear that it is not ONLY based on the sale of consoles.
It's been around for 4 years but the first three years, no money was put into it. If you look at 2020 to now and what they will do in the future, it's a huge difference between the first three years compared to year four to present and beyond.
That's unfair, because that's really the only metrics people have. It is up to MS to release more relevant metrics, e.g., GP ROI, GP $15 paying subscribers, how many people are on GP PC and GP Xbox, how many gamers are using the xCloud services on GP, etc.
