ArchedThunder
Banned
Okay, no need to make this personal guys, calm down.
So, like, the you of this dimension is a genwunner?
So, like, the you of this dimension is a genwunner?
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Pokémon Community Thread 3: "Soon, All of Hoenn Will Be Under Its Withering Glare "
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
And there's your problem right there. You think it's impossible for people not to like Gen 1 or see its deficiencies, and anyone telling otherwise are "hipsters" or something equivalent? And I seriously hope you don't think genwunners don't exist, it's the same reason its brother, geewunners, exist.
I'll just leave this pic as a reaction!
The mirrorworld actually.
Okay I want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding you so I'll ask again and phrase it a bit more specific to leave no room for misinterpretation: So you think the only reason Gen 3 Pokemon have the most mega evolutions this generation is because it has the most popular Pokemon and because of power creep, and the fact that they coincide with the release of the Hoenn remakes is nothing more than a coincidence?
Oh geez I didn't notice! Well I guess they're off the table, since Game Freak has never implemented a third version exclusive character into remakes of their respective initial two versions. Ever. It's seriously never has happened, and they've had tons of opportunities too! I guess Masuda is nothing but a man of tradition; who knows what depths of unmitigated chaos the series would be plunged into if this unwritten rule was ever broken.
And again, it's so damn unfortunate that there is no precedent in taking these two out of their gyms to have them do something they originally didn't do in the original games. Since nobody has done it before, of course.
And lol at they're not personalities. Sorry to break this to you boss, but all of the personalities are shit in these games.
Are you sure they'll be claiming that, or will it be the dreaded strawmen genwunners doing it, a "strawwunner" if you will? The ones that only appear to those who have thoroughly rejected the first generation from their hearts, for only those pure from its retched influence can see the puppeteer behind the curtain, pulling the strings and orchestrating all ill will that has ever befallen our community.
Yeesh. people have differing opinions, guys. Some like Gen 1, some don't. Is that not something that can be accepted?
To be fair, they didn't decide to do RS Remakes until November 2012, late in XY's development, so yes it's a coincidence.
To be fair, they didn't decide to do RS Remakes until November 2012, late in XY's development, so yes it's a coincidence.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I was talking about during the XY era silly. Obviously they added a lot of Hoenn megas in ORAS. I expect them to do the same thing when XZYZ to Kalos mons and maybe some other mons.
Oh geez I didn't notice! Well I guess they're off the table, since Game Freak has never implemented a third version exclusive character into remakes of their respective initial two versions. Ever. It's seriously never has happened, and they've had tons of opportunities too! I guess Masuda is nothing but a man of tradition; who knows what depths of unmitigated chaos the series would be plunged into if this unwritten rule was ever broken.
But Yellow is a special case though. It is literally advertised as "RB with anime flavor". It's technically not "the" third version as well. I'd argue RB IS the third version (remember that Japan got RG and released B, and US got RB).
And again, it's so damn unfortunate that there is no precedent in taking these two out of their gyms to have them do something they originally didn't do in the original games. Since nobody has done it before, of course.
And lol at they're not personalities. Sorry to break this to you boss, but all of the personalities are shit in these games.
Are you sure they'll be claiming that, or will it be the dreaded strawmen genwunners doing it, a "strawwunner" if you will? The ones that only appear to those who have thoroughly rejected the first generation from their hearts, for only those pure from its retched influence can see the puppeteer behind the curtain, pulling the strings and orchestrating all ill will that has ever befallen our community.
Pretty sure I didn't bring genwunner in that point - I'm talking about stuff like in ORAS where you got folks complaining the changes to one of the city or the designs or how they changed the bosses. Hell, changes to the protagonists in HG/SS.
And yeah the personalities are crap in these games, that's a given. But even then I'd argue Misty and Brock are different in their games and anime versions.
Love Fusion stuff:
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ColtraineGF
Member
TOKIYA SAKBA is great
(Sugimori x Red)
As a special note, TOKIYA SAKBA is an illustrator for the TCG as well
(Sugimori x Red)
As a special note, TOKIYA SAKBA is an illustrator for the TCG as well
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
dat cowtits
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
As a kid I loved the Gen 1 games, but really haven't played a Pokemon in-depth since Gold (I had Diamond but played it very little).
For someone wanting to get back in the series a little bit, would you recommend XY or ORAS? I've read that XY has more Gen 1 throwbacks (which I would enjoy) but ORAS seems to be regarded as the better game.
For someone wanting to get back in the series a little bit, would you recommend XY or ORAS? I've read that XY has more Gen 1 throwbacks (which I would enjoy) but ORAS seems to be regarded as the better game.
ArchedThunder
Banned
ORAS is pretty much better in everyway, but the Pokemon selection in XY is a lot better. Honestly it's hard to say, you can't really go wrong with either.
If you are willing to start outside of Gen VI I would recommend Black and White, in many ways these are still the best Pokemon games and are a great jumping in point.
I've done it. I've finally beaten the elite 4 and Steven in alpha Sapphire. It only took me...the amount of days since the game's were out lol I put it off for too long
Man, screw Steven and his Mega Metagross and it's spamming of giga impact. Was ridiculous. Ludicolo somehow managed to survive with like 10 hp left to deal the finishing blow.
Anyway, I really liked the
Good stuff overall, I like it
Man, screw Steven and his Mega Metagross and it's spamming of giga impact. Was ridiculous. Ludicolo somehow managed to survive with like 10 hp left to deal the finishing blow.
Anyway, I really liked the
cutscene they did at the end with May (since I played as a guy). Felt very...visual novel-esque. Like that was the confession scene of her route or something...it might as well have been with how implied it is throughout the game. No, that is not just close friendship lol. And surprise, had to battle her again. Did not expect that at all. I wonder what would've happened if I lost. When the scene came to the part with the desk, I actually thought my game froze since I thought it was over and had to click a to get back to the title screen. Surprise again, the setup for the next part of the game. Pretty cool with that glowing symbol and to be continued. lol it was funny with the scientist freaking out and the head dude told him to calm down and then I guess we see the new sky pillar and that girl I've seen so much fan art of lol.
Good stuff overall, I like it
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
From what I gathered XY metagame is better than ORAS despite learnset differences
How so?
Not75Drops
Member
The thing about this is that the next handheld (whether it be the NX or something else) probably will be out by 2017 at the latest and is likely to drop DS compatibility so we're back to incompatibility issues again with Johto, Sinnoh and Unova being locked out, assuming a Kanto remake is made.
Bank will be compatible though.
Not75Drops
Member
A Kanto remake doesn't really have anything to do with Bank. I think Cheebo's point was just that all regions would be playable on the same hardware that's current but if the 3DS successor releases within the next two years which is likely, we're back to square one. It could still happen, I just don't see that as a reason why it would.
ArchedThunder
Banned
The ending was great, I really love how they completely rewrote May and Brendan.I've done it. I've finally beaten the elite 4 and Steven in alpha Sapphire. It only took me...the amount of days since the game's were out lol I put it off for too long
Man, screw Steven and his Mega Metagross and it's spamming of giga impact. Was ridiculous. Ludicolo somehow managed to survive with like 10 hp left to deal the finishing blow.
Anyway, I really liked thecutscene they did at the end with May (since I played as a guy). Felt very...visual novel-esque. Like that was the confession scene of her route or something...it might as well have been with how implied it is throughout the game. No, that is not just close friendship lol. And surprise, had to battle her again. Did not expect that at all. I wonder what would've happened if I lost. When the scene came to the part with the desk, I actually thought my game froze since I thought it was over and had to click a to get back to the title screen. Surprise again, the setup for the next part of the game. Pretty cool with that glowing symbol and to be continued. lol it was funny with the scientist freaking out and the head dude told him to calm down and then I guess we see the new sky pillar and that girl I've seen so much fan art of lol.
Good stuff overall, I like it
Here's an interesting thought.
Take a look at the Mega Evolution Act III logo:
Now tell me the colours of the 'III' part. "Red and blue!", you say, and you instantly think "Right, the colours of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire". Great.
Now take a look at the Mega Evolution Act IV logo:
"Red and green?!" That's right. And not just any red and green. Let me remind you that the 20th Anniversary is next year. Whether or not Gen 7 comes along, it should be safe to assume we're seeing Kanto in 2016.
Take a look at the Mega Evolution Act III logo:
Now tell me the colours of the 'III' part. "Red and blue!", you say, and you instantly think "Right, the colours of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire". Great.
Now take a look at the Mega Evolution Act IV logo:
"Red and green?!" That's right. And not just any red and green. Let me remind you that the 20th Anniversary is next year. Whether or not Gen 7 comes along, it should be safe to assume we're seeing Kanto in 2016.
Wait, the least interesting metagame since 2011 is better than the most interesting metagame in... likely ever?
ArchedThunder
Banned
Here's an interesting thought.
Take a look at the Mega Evolution Act III logo:
Now tell me the colours of the 'III' part. "Red and blue!", you say, and you instantly think "Right, the colours of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire". Great.
Now take a look at the Mega Evolution Act IV logo:
"Red and green?!" That's right. And not just any red and green. Let me remind you that the 20th Anniversary is next year. Whether or not Gen 7 comes along, it should be safe to assume we're seeing Kanto in 2016.
Cool and not cool... If that does imply Kanto remakes are next it might also imply it's Red and Green again, I was hoping for Yellow...
I'm glad they did. Made it much more memorable of an ending for me
Yeah, it also felt like the next step after Shauna's crush in XY. I wonder if the next game will have a little bit more in the way of romance too.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Here's an interesting thought.
Take a look at the Mega Evolution Act III logo:
Now tell me the colours of the 'III' part. "Red and blue!", you say, and you instantly think "Right, the colours of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire". Great.
Now take a look at the Mega Evolution Act IV logo:
"Red and green?!" That's right. And not just any red and green. Let me remind you that the 20th Anniversary is next year. Whether or not Gen 7 comes along, it should be safe to assume we're seeing Kanto in 2016.
Red and Green again, huh?
I wonder what they'll add. Or change.
Also totally bringing in Haxorus and Noivern to the party
Here's an interesting thought.
Take a look at the Mega Evolution Act III logo:
Now tell me the colours of the 'III' part. "Red and blue!", you say, and you instantly think "Right, the colours of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire". Great.
Now take a look at the Mega Evolution Act IV logo:
"Red and green?!" That's right. And not just any red and green. Let me remind you that the 20th Anniversary is next year. Whether or not Gen 7 comes along, it should be safe to assume we're seeing Kanto in 2016.
Could be reading a bit too much into it, though Mega Evolution II's was pure green (focus on Rayquaza so Emerald) and Mega Evolution I's was just silver.
But what do I know...
ArchedThunder
Banned
He's just going off of III, so those colors do make sense if Kanto is coming.
I wish the IV was Yellow...
I kind of doubt we're getting a remake, but it does suggest there's going to be some celebration of Kanto and/or Gen I, and it's going to start by Autumn 2015. I personally consider a sequel much more likely.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Well when I say remake I mean more of a complete re-imagining of the game/s. Man I was so hopeful for Yellow... Must not stop believing.
Do note, there's only two slots remaining for games this generation.
Do also note that Zygarde has a supsiciously low BST for a banned legend indicating likelihood of a Mega Evolution and has two moves coded into XYORAS that haven't been touched yet: Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves.
Whatever we're getting, it'll focus on, if not heavily feature, Zygarde.
We're also in need of a Floette...
Both of these things are very Kalos.
Do also note that Zygarde has a supsiciously low BST for a banned legend indicating likelihood of a Mega Evolution and has two moves coded into XYORAS that haven't been touched yet: Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves.
Whatever we're getting, it'll focus on, if not heavily feature, Zygarde.
We're also in need of a Floette...
Both of these things are very Kalos.
ArchedThunder
Banned
POKEMON X GREEN AND Y RED
Real talk, I wouldn't mind them putting Kalos and Kanto in the same game and mixing XY's third version with Kanto remakes. It'd be something new and unexpected, that's for sure... unless Kanto was just a barren post game area like Gen II.
But anyways, that's part of why I believe a Yellow re-imagining is possible, it would work with the two games left thing if after that was Z.
And there's also Volcanion which (or so we assume) has nothing to do with Kanto. Those are all problems that can't be ignored, but I simply find it difficult to believe that they would waste the opportunity of the 20th Anniversary on a game most don't particularly care about. (An XY third-version or a mild sequel)
But still, the remaining Kalosian lore is not hard to put into the equation. If we take a moment and remember how many Kanto elements XY have to begin with... Mega Kanto starters, Mega Mewtwo, the Legendary Birds. Associating "ZX/ZY" with Kanto wouldn't be hard to pull. And we do get a game with two regions every two Gens or so.
You're a bad person
And there's also Volcanion which (or so we assume) has nothing to do with Kanto. Those are all problems that can't be ignored, but I simply find it difficult to believe that they would waste the opportunity of the 20th Anniversary on a game most don't particularly care about. (An XY third-version or a mild sequel)
But still, the remaining Kalosian lore is not hard to put into the equation. If we take a moment and remember how many Kanto elements XY have to begin with... Mega Kanto starters, Mega Mewtwo, the Legendary Birds. Associating "ZX/ZY" with Kanto wouldn't be hard to pull. And we do get a game with two regions every two Gens or so.
Volcanion will be distributed with the movie next year, which will also, based on patterns, feature Zygarde, so that's not really a problem.
I've been pushing for a game that's a sequel to GRBYGSCFRLGHGSS in Kanto since 2011. It does need to happen in my view. We're getting kids now who have played for 5 years and haven't stepped foot in Kanto ever. This does need to be rectified.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Joe, I'm surprised you would think another Kanto game would necessary right now considering how other the franchise either visits the place or make heavy references to it. A five year break doesn't seem like something that would cause urgency at all.
Professor Beef
Banned
As long as the new game is trade/battle compatible with ORAS, I'll be happy. What an absolute load of horseshit that was with XY.
ArchedThunder
Banned
ORAS is trade and battle compatible with XY.
They're never going to patch new Megas into old games, deal with it.
Professor Beef
Banned
And it's still considered horseshit to anyone with a working brain. "Deal with it."
ArchedThunder
Banned
They're new addition for the new game, get over yourself.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
I wouldn't keep my hopes up. They want to give as many reasons as possible for people to spend another 40 bucks. Which is probably why Hoenn lost its Battle Frontier.
Professor Beef
Banned
Yeah, that was idiotic, too. I'm about ready to drop the franchise if the next games ain't shit.
Exterminieren
Banned
I thought that it was obvious that Game Freak planned ahead to encompass the new Megas and moves, and you were a cynic and a whinger if you thought otherwise?
The fact that you're still bending over backwards to justify Game Freak's shitty decisions months after the fact is remarkable.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Because that's what it seemed like at the time based on alternate forms in previous games, but Megas are different and we got new moves and abilities so it didn't work out like that, I also never expected trading, just battling. It'd be nice if they added compatibility with battling for new Megas, but they absolutely don't owe it to anyone, the Megas are new to a new game, you aren't entitled to a new game's content because you bought an old one.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Is it just me or does the move name "Thousand Arrows" make me want to see the move doing exactly 1,000 damage by way of 1,000 separate hits? (Yeah, I know if we just did it the Pokémon way, there would be an eternity of battle messages and waits, but still...)
No Pokemon even has 1000 hit points.