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Late prediction: I expect a new region. One that ties in with Kalos, and makes them have a common past. Basically a whole region that acts as missing puzzle piece for the questions that we have about Kalos.
Not the best prediction, but considering that they are likely trying to do something completely new, that would be my first guess.
Not the best prediction, but considering that they are likely trying to do something completely new, that would be my first guess.
Except I don't carry my 3DS around with e literally everywhere I go, and even if I did, popping it open, starting the game, loading my save and going to check the day care is a pretty lengthy process compared to just grabbing my phone out of my pocket and checking the theoretical "Day Care" app.
At some point there *isn't* anything else to do in game while hatching eggs, I've already cleared all possible post-game content, and because you need to be "taking steps" to advance the egg timer you're actually being penalized for doing anything except just walking around blindly.
I *want* to play the Pokemon games longer than I do, and breeding your own perfect Mons is one of the draws, but the process itself is dated and un-fun. If there was a streamlined way to breed Pokemon and interact with the Bank without having to drag my 3DS around with me and out every single time I want to check something, I'd still be playing Y and OR to this day, but the absolute grind of breeding means every time I try to get back into it I just fall asleep, instead.
With Pokemon GO! on the horizon I see absolutely no problem with wanting there to be another path to breeding, and it's not like it has to completely replace the in-game system, either.
You just like shooting down ideas and hate the possibility of change.
If my idea's so terrible then you propose one that isn't just "Leave things exactly the same way they've been for 17 years."
At some point there *isn't* anything else to do in game while hatching eggs, I've already cleared all possible post-game content, and because you need to be "taking steps" to advance the egg timer you're actually being penalized for doing anything except just walking around blindly.
I *want* to play the Pokemon games longer than I do, and breeding your own perfect Mons is one of the draws, but the process itself is dated and un-fun. If there was a streamlined way to breed Pokemon and interact with the Bank without having to drag my 3DS around with me and out every single time I want to check something, I'd still be playing Y and OR to this day, but the absolute grind of breeding means every time I try to get back into it I just fall asleep, instead.
With Pokemon GO! on the horizon I see absolutely no problem with wanting there to be another path to breeding, and it's not like it has to completely replace the in-game system, either.
You just like shooting down ideas and hate the possibility of change.
If my idea's so terrible then you propose one that isn't just "Leave things exactly the same way they've been for 17 years."
Sales and expectations are weird things, especially when it comes to Pokemon.
1 - Whether releasing on new hardware as a launch title or releasing on a system saturated in the market at the end of its lifespan, the outcome means different things.
a. For instance, releasing on NX would get Pokemon fans to buy the console... but perhaps others don't give a damn. Thus, a company is worried about not selling as much.
b. However, as we saw with Black/White, releasing on an existing system doesn't mean all owners automatically buy. 150 millions DS's out there, asking for each person to purchase a game just doesn't happen.
2 - So what this comes down to is the audience of Pokemon, which -- while huge -- shifts from system to system and generation to generation. Run the numbers to find how much of those are new fans and how many are continuing players. That's your sales formula.
3 - The ball is in Game Freak's court, which is key. It's not in Nintendo's. I bet GF, like a third-party might, has to look at the next system (NX) from an outside perspective. Who knows if they had been specifically working on the console from its inception behind closed door, or if they were left to fend for themselves on 3DS, n3DS, or Wii U.
If you're a fan, the perfect world is some combination of: NX (releasing this year) + Sun/Moon (releasing this year) + Fully-realized graphics and functionality. But if you're a company, learning a new platform takes a ton of resources. And for a rather smart but careful-with-their-cash group like Game Freak, they might not see the benefit.
1 - Whether releasing on new hardware as a launch title or releasing on a system saturated in the market at the end of its lifespan, the outcome means different things.
a. For instance, releasing on NX would get Pokemon fans to buy the console... but perhaps others don't give a damn. Thus, a company is worried about not selling as much.
b. However, as we saw with Black/White, releasing on an existing system doesn't mean all owners automatically buy. 150 millions DS's out there, asking for each person to purchase a game just doesn't happen.
2 - So what this comes down to is the audience of Pokemon, which -- while huge -- shifts from system to system and generation to generation. Run the numbers to find how much of those are new fans and how many are continuing players. That's your sales formula.
3 - The ball is in Game Freak's court, which is key. It's not in Nintendo's. I bet GF, like a third-party might, has to look at the next system (NX) from an outside perspective. Who knows if they had been specifically working on the console from its inception behind closed door, or if they were left to fend for themselves on 3DS, n3DS, or Wii U.
If you're a fan, the perfect world is some combination of: NX (releasing this year) + Sun/Moon (releasing this year) + Fully-realized graphics and functionality. But if you're a company, learning a new platform takes a ton of resources. And for a rather smart but careful-with-their-cash group like Game Freak, they might not see the benefit.
Well that's the thing, there is no set teams like that.
It's more like, there's the GameFreak team and they sort of split up for projects but also work together on them. It doesn't alternate perfectly either. Like is there a "C team" for third versions? I wish I was more familiar with the staffs of the games.
Also ORAS director was his first time heading a project iirc from the interviews.
Honestly idk. But I think maybe what if BW2/team got to make a new gen instead of a direct sequel/third version, ORAS Team is now the basic remake team, and theres the main team working on NX , and of course they all move around and work together to finish whatever the current project is
It's more like, there's the GameFreak team and they sort of split up for projects but also work together on them. It doesn't alternate perfectly either. Like is there a "C team" for third versions? I wish I was more familiar with the staffs of the games.
Also ORAS director was his first time heading a project iirc from the interviews.
Honestly idk. But I think maybe what if BW2/team got to make a new gen instead of a direct sequel/third version, ORAS Team is now the basic remake team, and theres the main team working on NX , and of course they all move around and work together to finish whatever the current project is
Not really. Masuda was not director
ORAS director was his first time.
Edit!: In fact this game is probably directed by Shigeki Morimoto (HGSS, Emerald) and there will be a sequel by Takao Unno (BW2).
That leaves Masuda to direct Nx game for 2018 and ORAS team to work on DP remakes for 2019.
Researching the staffs of the games now and learning much more about the future of the franchise than I ever did by looking at release timelines.
ORAS director was his first time.
Edit!: In fact this game is probably directed by Shigeki Morimoto (HGSS, Emerald) and there will be a sequel by Takao Unno (BW2).
That leaves Masuda to direct Nx game for 2018 and ORAS team to work on DP remakes for 2019.
Researching the staffs of the games now and learning much more about the future of the franchise than I ever did by looking at release timelines.
Just a random theory, but since XY heavily leaned on the nostalgia of Gen 1, what if Pokemon Moon and Sun are going to heavily lean on Gen 2. It will take place in a connected region, possibly Southern Kalos as some have said and feature new Pokemon. But, once you beat the Elite Four you are able to visit a scaled back version of Kalos from XY. This would allow them to address some of the incomplete story questions from XY and allow them to introduce Perfect Zygarde while also starting a new Gen. This is probably all wishful thinking, but would be kinda cool if they did something like this again.
That would make sense...
Wow GF has been maturing very stategically
I'm now thinking the reason they pandered gen 1 stuff so hard off the bat in Gen 6 is because they know we won't be seeing RBY remakes again for some time even though it's the 20th Anniv. Either they start remaking gens 1-5 over again in HD with pokebank support and megas on NX before continuing the trend with DP, or they won't be remaking it until after DP and BW remakes.
Wow GF has been maturing very stategically
I'm now thinking the reason they pandered gen 1 stuff so hard off the bat in Gen 6 is because they know we won't be seeing RBY remakes again for some time even though it's the 20th Anniv. Either they start remaking gens 1-5 over again in HD with pokebank support and megas on NX before continuing the trend with DP, or they won't be remaking it until after DP and BW remakes.
I still find it funny how Game Freak may potentially throw Nintendo under the bus for a second time when it comes to getting new hardware out there & GF leaving their games on an older system. I somewhat get why they stayed on the DS since it was a mega-hit, but the 3DS is nowhere near the DS in sales. I still do believe that they should have just done Z for the 3DS, then move on with Moon/Sun on the NX Platform. But that would be the logical decision.
Granted, I'm sure I'll enjoy Moon/Sun regardless. But if it is indeed Gen 7, then Nintendo's gonna have to make do without a Pokémon game on the NX Platform for about 3 years (a franchise that may hurt the potential growth of the NX Platform in the long-run for not being there early on).
Granted, I'm sure I'll enjoy Moon/Sun regardless. But if it is indeed Gen 7, then Nintendo's gonna have to make do without a Pokémon game on the NX Platform for about 3 years (a franchise that may hurt the potential growth of the NX Platform in the long-run for not being there early on).
Last minute predictions:
Sun and Moon are Gen 6.5, use the same engine as XY but in a new region, add new Pokemon and Megas to bring the total closer to 800. Post game happens in Kalos, involves Zygarde.
Then, Gen 7 begins properly in a couple of years with Pokemon Dimensional Diamond and Futuristic Pearl, semi DP remakes that lean heavily on time travel segments and teleporting to different regions.
Sun and Moon are Gen 6.5, use the same engine as XY but in a new region, add new Pokemon and Megas to bring the total closer to 800. Post game happens in Kalos, involves Zygarde.
Then, Gen 7 begins properly in a couple of years with Pokemon Dimensional Diamond and Futuristic Pearl, semi DP remakes that lean heavily on time travel segments and teleporting to different regions.
Not exactly that. Maybe I'm showing my age but I associate the difference between 2d and 3d with at least some level of gameplay change. Pokémon doesn't have that. Mario and Zelda are fundamentally different between 2d/3d entries. Metroid other m is far closer to 2d metroid than 3d despite using 3d models for everything and occasionally letting you move in 3d.
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