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Pokémon Moon and Sun leaked
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NOA, eh?
Already Torn
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What if it's actually Z? Then they both look like doodoo 😒
I played it as a kid, loved it as a kid, but recognize it has a ton of flaws now. Even in HGSS the level curve was pretty bad. HGSS had a lot of great content to stand on, though. GS was cool at the time, but in hindsight isn't great. Even ignoring distribution and level curve, Kanto feels tacked on and lifeless.
That doesn't take away from the wow factor at the time, especially as a kid, but I'm not gonna let nostalgia blind me.
Hopefully they didn't and I hope they'll bring good character design before thinking about 10 different combinaisons of awful clothes unrelated to a Pokémon character.
Great post, and I love that you focus on the positives. So much damned negativity around here, so this to me is quite refreshing. Gotta single it out, but I totally agree with you about Kalos... it's what made me fall in love with Pokemon in the first place (I was a late bloomer, but have since buffed up my series knowledge). X was my very first Pokemon game, and it had a profound impact on me, truly making me appreciate their designs. I love Amaura's design so much too, and one day... maybe one day I'll get myself a shiny.
Darth_Caedus
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Well that's why you don't trust people who talk in Nostalgia.
This is a good post for opposite day.
Most people feel completely the opposite. I think Gen 2 is the best by a massive margin.
MaximumSpider
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Oh I remember finding out about this when I was younger
Really? I see people hating on Gen 2 all the time. For me, it's my least favorite Gen.
But I did love HGSS, don't get me wrong.
Finale Fireworker
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Yes it is.
HG/SS in particular are some of (if not the) best games in the series. Sorry you don't like Gen II.
Most of what he said is true though.
Same for me, but i think Hoenn is a great region too, the only difference is that R/Z (story and new pokemon) sucks while D/P has a decent storyline and better pokemon (hated at times because the excessive number of evolutions of old pokemons, but for me most of them were great adds).
Gen 2 was the last good Pokemon Gen, except Mudkip.
LOL @ Nintendo if this leak is true
Great post <3
I mean you're not wrong on a lot of these points but that doesn't change the fact that Johto + Kanto in one game was MIND-BLOWING at the time. Even for the sacrifices made in other respects, that was 100% the right choice.
He's obviously talking about the original Gold and Silver games not the remakes. The level curve and the Pokemon distribution WAS fucked in that game. That didn't mean the game wasn't super enjoyable but there were some serious flaws.
Great post <3
I mean you're not wrong on a lot of these points but that doesn't change the fact that Johto + Kanto in one game was MIND-BLOWING at the time. Even for the sacrifices made in other respects, that was 100% the right choice.
He's obviously talking about the original Gold and Silver games not the remakes. The level curve and the Pokemon distribution WAS fucked in that game. That didn't mean the game wasn't super enjoyable but there were some serious flaws.
Velcro Fly
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Gen 2 was fun, but the level curve was terrible. I thought that as a kid too. It felt like once you reached mid 30s, nothing else went beyond that and you were fighting things that were mid 30s for the rest of the game.
And really with only so many pokemon to draw on and the regions being right next to each other, it's only natural to have Kanto pokemon available in Johto.
And really with only so many pokemon to draw on and the regions being right next to each other, it's only natural to have Kanto pokemon available in Johto.
Noooo I refuse
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Pretty much confirmation?
Me either. But I also remember spending a lot of time at that area for some reason :x.
Man I played Colosseum such a long time ago.
Also gen 2 is fantastic IMO, but the level curve and Johto being small are legit problems. It's just that they're not enough to bring the game itself down. Everything else; the atmosphere, the novelty of having two regions in one game, the new Pokemon (yes even if Kanto Pokemon overwhelmed them, they still complimented the original 151 extremely well as a group in total), the MUSIC, etc. was amazing.
Skyfireblaze
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Well forcing Pokémon X/Y and ORAS into 804mhz with enabled L2 cache mode via CFW already improves the performance massively on a new 3DS, I can only imagine how well they would run if they would be natively optimized for this
Was it confirmed when the name and logos were leaked?
Weren't there names that got trademarked that are still unused? I recall the same thing happening with Pokémon names.
Great summary, but i never feel a jazz influenced music in Gen IV, i always saw it as a great electronic experimentation, an exception in the pokemon soundtracks
Yes, but never with images associated with them
Oh, so we might be into something here. Tsk, I wasn't expecting anything important for tomorrow.
The fact there was a Pokémon Direct means it was going to be important.
MaximumSpider
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It's happening
Best spot ever.
The console games were pretty fun, albeit short all things considered. The shadow mechanic was cool but I think it helped me realize that if a Pokemon Console RPG happened, it would have to be more than the collect 8 badges/beat elite 4 and team [evil] template ported from the handhelds.
Also throwback to when I named the girl after my elementary school crush who also had red hair
Already Torn
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They made the new Facebook update for this reason. Now we can all "sad" the announcement if it's Pokemon Z.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Ash finally turns 11
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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A trademark could just be a trademark, doesn't have to be a new game.
EndlessSky
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Looking through all the pictures of references in X and Y about the Sun and Moon, I am sure these games will still be gen 6 and will basically be a a pokemon Z. Especially that bit I heard about the two zygarde cores powering up with the moon and sun respectively.
Edit: actually this is false info. Nevertheless, there are still many references to sun and moon in X and Y, such as the sundial and moondial.
Edit: actually this is false info. Nevertheless, there are still many references to sun and moon in X and Y, such as the sundial and moondial.
fredrancour
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the announcements regarding pokemon that tend to make the average gaffer go "lol it's fucking nothing" are typically things that just get mentioned in japanese magazines, or in the case of spinoff games, by being namedropped in large directs. it's pretty unusual for there to be a pokemon dedicated direct. i applaud you thinking calmly about things instead of going full-hypetrain at the first opportunity, but this was actually a time where the odds of something interesting were actually pretty high from the get-go.
psynergylover
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Hit the nail on the head
Wow what. This is the first time I am reading this opinion. =/
That last part was confirmed BS, they both get energy from the sun.
But yeah, it's a weird situation all around.
In favor of Gen VI:
1) There are two more IDs reserved for the pentagon mark, associated with Gen VI
2) We have new formes for a Gen VI legendary.
3) We have an unreleased Gen VI mythical with a movie coming up.
Oddities:
1) We have an entirely new Pokemon revealed that isn't in Gen VI data.
2) These names are completely unrelated to XY.
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I know there are more that I've thought of but aren't coming to mind at the moment x.x It'd be strange to have entirely new Pokemon, not just formes, within the same generation. But it'd also be strange to be moving to a new generation with things as they are.
Spinosaurus
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No, he's right. The level curve in gen 2 was pretty mindboggling and I'm surprised HGSS did nothing to fix it. It makes the games the worst when it comes to grinding, especially when wild Pokemon are really underlevelled by the endgame. It gets to the point where I typically reach Red with only lv.40's (and a BUNCH of items). A lot of gen 2 Pokemon are also really rare or only available in Kanto.
This guy here knows what's up.
crooked spin
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If these are the games revealed tomorrow (and it seems like they almost certainly are) they definitely will be on current hardware (3DS) and I'd really prefer the next generation to be on new hardware.
fredrancour
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i'm gonna be hopelessly refreshing this thread all day, haha. glad the direct is so early tomorrow.
it makes me sad that half the gen 2 pokemon are impossible to catch til after the elite four, and that the level curve has a giant dip in the middle of the game. I know it's for worldbuilding purposes, but it hurt the gameplay.
it makes me sad that half the gen 2 pokemon are impossible to catch til after the elite four, and that the level curve has a giant dip in the middle of the game. I know it's for worldbuilding purposes, but it hurt the gameplay.
Being locked out from using a large amount of JOHTO Pokemon until you reached Kanto is so great. Let's not also forget they were all severely underleved and needed serious grinding to be usable by that point in the game... which is impossible to do considering every trainer and wild Pokemon are also under leveled in that game.
GS had a terrible distribution and level curve. Those are 100% facts.
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