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Pokemon Sun/Moon trailer – CoroCoro version (with a smidge of new footage)

maxcriden

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CoroCoro has now published its own version of the new Pokemon Sun/Moon trailer from this week. It’s very familiar, though there is one very brief original scene towards the beginning which seems to show some sort of Pokemon (see the shot above).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WxCKssPs3E

Literally only four new seconds of gameplay, but I figure if Pokémon fans are like Zelda fans they'll be glad to see this.

Via: http://nintendoeverything.com/

(Thanks for balladofwindfishes for the image link!)
 

maxcriden

Member
The new Pokemon they showed is super cute. I hope we can catch it early on.

I can't watch the footage at work, do we see it from the front also?

Also, does the Pokémon existing like that in the overworld--is that present in X/Y? Didn't play those.
 

Crayolan

Member
I can't watch the footage at work, do we see it from the front also?

Also, does the Pokémon existing like that in the overworld--is that present in X/Y? Didn't play those.

It was in XY, but it wasn't common.

Here's an Espurr on the overworld:
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Edit: I dont mean to say that it was significantly less common than in previous games though. Maybe only slightly so.
 

udivision

Member
I can't watch the footage at work, do we see it from the front also?

Also, does the Pokémon existing like that in the overworld--is that present in X/Y? Didn't play those.

This has happened since Red and Blue. The only Pokemon you see in the overworld are domesticated or legendary. No other Pokemon exist.
 
I really like how gamefreak releases their prerelease trailers. They give a bunch of infomation out in the open, hide some easter eggs in them, releases a different trailer for Japan with more info, and when they released this *same* trailer threw CoroCoro they added in a slight scene showing something different.

Can't wait to see what they decide to release next month.
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I mean, despite ORAS cutting the Battle Frontier there's no reason to think they'd make the new Region this extremely small---outside of the Battle Frontier Hoenn isn't any smaller, and XY was pretty big as well, so thinking they'd cut down the main scenario this much is a bit ridiculous.

Anyway, the New Pokemon definately looks to have hooves---I'm gonna guess it's a mule deer. Maybe it's a Stantler pre-evolution?
 

Pokemaniac

Member
I mean, despite ORAS cutting the Battle Frontier there's no reason to think they'd make the new Region this extremely small---outside of the Battle Frontier Hoenn isn't any smaller, and XY was pretty big as well, so thinking they'd cut down the main scenario this much is a bit ridiculous.

Yeah, this is way too small to be the whole game. Either they'll include the majority of Hawaii (it's probably about the right size for a Pokémon region) or you'll be traveling to other regions (probably Kalos if they go that route).
 

RagnarokX

Member
Their analysis is always remarkably detailed.

Their analysis was worse than usual this time. They kept saying there wasn't any tall grass but the overview of the island clearly shows tall grass. They thought the trainer's house was on the beach, but that house is blocked off by tall grass so obviously that isn't it. If I had to guess, the game starts with the trainer getting off a boat in the city based on Honolulu and then hiking to their house in starting village along the route that doesn't have tall grass. Then, once the player meets the professor and gets their pokemon, they return to Honolulu but are forced to take the north fork of the path that has tall grass.

They also didn't point out landmarks from Oahu that the island has versions of, such as Diamond Head and Sacred Falls (really surprised they didn't at least mention the giant waterfall).

The also thought the professor's assistant might be the trainer's cousin and didn't talk about how "cousin" is a common slang term in Hawaii.

i bet the whole game is only on that island. if you're lucky post game will be another island like the frontier was

This isn't likely. The island is very small. It only has about 3 routes, 2-3 towns, 2 pokemon centers, and a few caves. I can see there being maybe 8 islands; one for every gym. Maybe have 2-3 gyms on the main island.
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
That waterfall is probably the infamous "reverse" one the Hiker mentions in XY...

In fact that's one of the major points towards Hawaii long before Sun and Moon was announced since a lot of people realized it referenced the one in Oahu.
 

Delio

Member
This isn't likely. The island is very small. It only has about 3 routes, 2-3 towns, 2 pokemon centers, and a few caves. I can see there being maybe 8 islands; one for every gym. Maybe have 2-3 gyms on the main island.

Yeah I'm sticking to that as it's the most logical route to go. I bet it's laid out where you have free reign to run around the islands and explore but cant progress to the next without the badge from the island.
 

RagnarokX

Member
That waterfall is probably the infamous "reverse" one the Hiker mentions in XY...

In fact that's one of the major points towards Hawaii long before Sun and Moon was announced since a lot of people realized it referenced the one in Oahu.

I dunno, the waterfall in the trailer is flowing the right way and is in the location of Sacred Falls Park, while the upsidedown waterfall appears near H3 after heavy rain. And it looks like the waterfalls there. Sacred Falls is the most stunning waterfall site in Hawaii according to this Hawaiian waterfall guide site.

Here's a comparison map:
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Yeah I'm sticking to that as it's the most logical route to go. I bet it's laid out where you have free reign to run around the islands and explore but cant progress to the next without the badge from the island.

Yeah. Also, I doubt that they will give you surf early in the game, so you probably have to take boats and/or planes between islands, and progress will be controlled by access to these modes of transportation and the destinations they are willing to take you to.
 

Delio

Member
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Yeah. Also, I doubt that they will give you surf early in the game, so you probably have to take boats and/or planes between islands, and progress will be controlled by access to these modes of transportation and the destinations they are willing to take you to.

Yeah it's an easy way to control where you go. Also they could have it where you can visit former islands pretty easy with the boat system.
 

RagnarokX

Member
Yeah it's an easy way to control where you go. Also they could have it where you can visit former islands pretty easy with the boat system.

Basically, instead of the central city with spokes like Lumiose in Kalos, the central hub of Alola will be the ports. Go to a port and choose the island you wish to go to. Island access will be doled out as you progress through each island.
 

Red Fire

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???

Sun and Moon has the best rendition of the Main Theme in years,

Can't say I agree.

It really is though i agree with him/her.

XY's music was so epic, and it made the first trailer even better than it was already.

This one has more horns or trumpets or whatever, kinda like ORAS, which was a downstep from XY, but even shittier. Not good at all. The trailer would have had a better impact on me if it had an epic version of the main theme like XY had.
 
This isn't likely. The island is very small. It only has about 3 routes, 2-3 towns, 2 pokemon centers, and a few caves. I can see there being maybe 8 islands; one for every gym. Maybe have 2-3 gyms on the main island.

Terrible bet. I'd burn my copy that same day I complete it lol

oh i constantly expect gamefreak and TPC to under deliver at all times, they're really good at that, so yes, I'm fully 100% in all honesty expecting the game to take place on that one island. I'd be very surprised if this is not the case (with the exception of like some sort of post game island like the battle frontier like i mentioned earlier)
 

wmlk

Member
The music is awful holy shit

It's really sad. Whatever soundfont they're using for Gen VI and now Gen VII is the worst.

We had music like this before Gen VI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-6JV-M8oxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGhBzISIjEg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9X6uXyylJE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrnRrSpTz20

Having Go Ichinose be a major player helps too, but listen to how crisp B2W2 sounds. It's amazing to hear the drop in quality in the 3DS games.
 

Joqu

Member
It's really sad. Whatever soundfont they're using for Gen VI and now Gen VII is the worst.

We had music like this before Gen VI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-6JV-M8oxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGhBzISIjEg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9X6uXyylJE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrnRrSpTz20

Having Go Ichinose be a major player helps too, but listen to how crisp B2W2 sounds. It's amazing to hear the drop in quality in the 3DS games.

Gosh I had completely forgotten how good of a track Marine Tube is. Thanks for bringing that one up.

And yeah, I'm not a music person but I really dislike the current soundfont. I can only hope they'll move away from it after the 3DS.

I think I've asked this before and if I'm not mistaken I asked it to you even, but where's Go Ichinose at now anyway? He hasn't been credited since BW2 has he?
 

Phu

Banned
dat music

Having Go Ichinose be a major player helps too, but listen to how crisp B2W2 sounds. It's amazing to hear the drop in quality in the 3DS games.

Damn
do I love all these songs! I think part of it is that they just embrace those synthy soundfonts.
 

wmlk

Member
Gosh I had completely forgotten how good of a track Marine Tube is. Thanks for bringing that one up.

And yeah, I'm not a music person but I really dislike the current soundfont. I can only hope they'll move away from it after the 3DS.

I think I've asked this before and if I'm not mistaken I asked it to you even, but where's Go Ichinose at now anyway? He hasn't been credited since BW2 has he?

I actually have no idea what he's up to. I just always check VGMDB for each OST to check the credits. Ichinose had a surprisingly huge involvement in B2W2 and then basically nothing in XY. He had I think a slightly bigger contribution in ORAS, but the brass for Gen VI was so bad that a lot ended up not sounding as great as the originals. The ones that didn't depend on the brass actually sounded awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfqcH9KPuIQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiuStXYXNVI
 
It really is though i agree with him/her.

XY's music was so epic, and it made the first trailer even better than it was already.

This one has more horns or trumpets or whatever, kinda like ORAS, which was a downstep from XY, but even shittier. Not good at all. The trailer would have had a better impact on me if it had an epic version of the main theme like XY had.

SM's main theme has a wide variety of instruments in it compared to XY's main theme, which was mostly just brass (with some complimentary strings). Even ORAS's main theme has more variety in instruments than the main theme from XY.

I think I've asked this before and if I'm not mistaken I asked it to you even, but where's Go Ichinose at now anyway? He hasn't been credited since BW2 has he?

The last thing he did was Pocket Card Jockey (2013) so he's been absent for quite some time.

EDIT: VGMdb says he did the Battle! (Frontier Brain) arrange for ORAS, which I don't remember seeing when the OST first came out. I'm gonna look more into this.
EDIT 2: That song is just the original, which he composed. Battle! (Battle Chatelaine) is the ORAS arrange of that song and someone new did that one.
 

Delio

Member
Basically, instead of the central city with spokes like Lumiose in Kalos, the central hub of Alola will be the ports. Go to a port and choose the island you wish to go to. Island access will be doled out as you progress through each island.

Yep. Gamefreak might not go that way of course but honestly it feels like the easiest way. Well till you get Surf and Fly.
 

RagnarokX

Member
oh i constantly expect gamefreak and TPC to under deliver at all times, they're really good at that, so yes, I'm fully 100% in all honesty expecting the game to take place on that one island. I'd be very surprised if this is not the case (with the exception of like some sort of post game island like the battle frontier like i mentioned earlier)

Your expectations are 100% crazy. You seriously think they're going to make a Pokemon game with 2-3 towns, 1 gym, no pokemon league, and dozen patches of grass. You may feel they've under-delivered before, but it's absolutely ridiculous to think that after six generations of providing a full Pokemon experience with every game they would suddenly change everything and scale back to such an immense degree. This island is basically equivalent to this:

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Gamexplain just posted a video where they said that they don't think that the house the trainer leaves in the CoroCoro trailer is the trainer's house because there are NPCs outside... Definitely the beach house you can't leave without going through tall grass! /facepalm
 
Your expectations are 100% crazy. You seriously think they're going to make a Pokemon game with 2-3 towns, 1 gym, no pokemon league, and dozen patches of grass. You may feel they've under-delivered before, but it's absolutely ridiculous to think that after six generations of providing a full Pokemon experience with every game they would suddenly change everything and scale back to such an immense degree.

you're the one saying it only has 1 gym and 3 towns on that island, not me. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if all 8 gyms are packed somewhere in that island.
 

WadeitOut

Member
I'm just glad in Sun/Moon we get to catch Pokemon in america since they clearly don't want me to do it in Pokemon GO anytime soon.
 
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