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Anything saying otherwise wouldn't see the light of day anyway lol.
Anything saying otherwise wouldn't see the light of day anyway lol.
Then you can't read. I'm blaming everyone. They're all at fault. That's been the position from the start.
I disagree, BLM and antifa WERE definetely invoved, but how does that change the fact that 50 people storming into the capitol means treason from the republican party, while democrat politicians encouraged, defended and even bailed rioters to the praise of the media? Call it whatever you want and point fingers at whoever you want, but hypocrisy is the name of the game, and you are part of it if you are so blind to call what happend last year a "peaceful protest" while calling this sedition or treason or even a riot, which it barely was. Both were wrong, but in your eyes and the media's and democrat's, only one is bad, the other one is just a righteous protest, even tho more chaos and destruction was caused.
Apparently not because they've done similar things in the past and not a peep from the media, or you, instead they are praised for it.If antifa had stormed the capitol building with zipties after posting threats to assassinate Josh Hawley, as these insurrectionists did for Pelosi, you'd see a very similar response.
When did Antifa storm the capitol?Apparently not because they've done similar things in the past and not a peep from the media, or you, instead they are praised for it.
Gotta love the resistance mindset of being shocked that a bunch of beer gut maga flag waiving people were hoodwinked by a conspiracy theory, busted into the capital and scared congress but it's totally OK for cities to burn, people killed/attacked in the streets all summer long, politicians calling for violence, russian conspiracy theories, the president is literally worse than Hitler, etc.No, you're trying to create false equivalencies. Whataboutisms, in order to minimize the actions of Trump.
You're just hoping everyone will play along with this, or be too stupid to see what it is you're doing underneath the surface lol
What im trying to tell you is that there is a difference between commenting on a nationwide discourse and saying "if this isnt fixed then yeah this can happen" and an incited insurrection towards a civil institution.
Context does matter, all you're trying to do is say "they both did bad stuff" which essentially is an attempt to minimize this particular issue, which once again is leagues different in context and severity compared to anything you brought up.
I said similar, not the exact same thing, as in targeting goverment buildings:When did Antifa storm the capitol?
It's official, you can't comprehend what you read. You completely and utterly failed to engage with my argument, continue parroting nonsense, and still push YOUR false equivalences. I will say yet again, and maybe it will take this time, I condemn ALL instances of radical political incitement, Trump or otherwise. Your insinuations that I support him are completely and utterly unfounded.No, you're trying to create false equivalencies. Whataboutisms, in order to minimize the actions of Trump.
You're just hoping everyone will play along with this, or be too stupid to see what it is you're doing underneath the surface lol
What im trying to tell you is that there is a difference between commenting on a nationwide discourse and saying "if this isnt fixed then yeah this can happen" and an incited insurrection towards a civil institution.
Context does matter, all you're trying to do is say "they both did bad stuff" which essentially is an attempt to minimize this particular issue, which once again is leagues different in context and severity compared to anything you brought up.
It's official, you can't comprehend what you read. You completely and utterly failed to engage with my argument, continue parroting nonsense, and still push YOUR false equivalences. I will say yet again, and maybe it will take this time, I condemn ALL instances of radical political incitement, Trump or otherwise. Your insinuations that I support him are completely and utterly unfounded.
Keep riding the narrative, never engage anyone critically, ignore whatever point someone is making because Trump,
It's official, you can't comprehend what you read. You completely and utterly failed to engage with my argument, continue parroting nonsense, and still push YOUR false equivalences. I will say yet again, and maybe it will take this time, I condemn ALL instances of radical political incitement, Trump or otherwise. Your insinuations that I support him are completely and utterly unfounded.
Keep riding the narrative, never engage anyone critically, ignore whatever point someone is making because Trump,
So you attribute any riots that happened and violence singularly to the """left"""? One political ideology?Gotta love the resistance mindset of being shocked that a bunch of beer gut maga flag waiving people were hoodwinked by a conspiracy theory, busted into the capital and scared congress but it's totally OK for cities to burn, people killed/attacked in the streets all summer long, politicians calling for violence, russian conspiracy theories, the president is literally worse than Hitler, etc.
It's not whataboutism, your John Oliver talking points have no power here. Thinking critically and recognizing the flaws in our media and political parties is something that shouldn't be considered partisan.
Then youre are a complete and utter hypocrite who is only concerned with defending your football team.Except we're clearly disagreeing on whether or not what you brought up as an example was "radical political incitment". I dont think it was, at all.
You're assuming that's just a fact that I agree with lol.
A.k.a. the examples from pelosi and others were far different in context than what were seeing here. This was radical political incitment. That was not. clearly you have difficulty interpreting what is being said to you, and the argument you are having. No wonder i can probably...guess who you voted for, and why you post in this section, bad judgement/and analytical ability lol.
And the fact that you even tried to bring it up, is suspect. And an indication that your are indeed trying to create false equivalencies in order to equalize the two factions.
Once again, those instancies werent radical political incitement. At all. This was.
Then youre are a complete and utter hypocrite who is only concerned with defending your football team.
People literally fanning the flames of riots, defending looting and murder, saying people have no choice but to riot and harass government officials isn't incitement?
What a fucking joke.
We had fucking years of this nonsense, people insinuating that the 2016 election was illegitimate and doing everything they could to undermine our election and then this following nonsense for four years:
Actually I think "parties" are tribal monkey shit that people gravitate to in order to preserve their own ideologies and avoid actually listening to one another. A concept likely derived from a power that would prefer us to feel separated amongst each other rather than unify and listen to each stance with a detailed ear.
whereas I see that you think in terms of party, seeing as you immediately admitted that you saw this backlash as an attack on the "republican party" and how your entire fucking argument is simply trying to showcase that "the other side did bad stuff too". seeing as you posted this terrible video in the other thread that evilore made made lol your kneejerk reaction to the evilore thread just showing the transcript of the speech was to post this vid to once again say "but look at the DEMS!".
you also thought your smoking gun was this video indicating absolutely no context to these statements, we don't even know what they are referring to, or what argument was made, therefore we don't even know if they are isolated statements or something that would be connected to a specific event to even be referred to as incitement. what a terrible fucking post, to try and compare that to an actual singular directed instance of "be mad, go to this civil institution, and do this" by the president of the united states, predicated upon the concept of a "false election" that this president created.
also, question...do you honestly feel that the george floyd protests were primarily political?
do you honestly see the george floyd riots/violence as something that was the "lefts" thing? that's a huge fucking problem dude.
do you feel BLM is a political "left" thing? that's a huge fucking problem also.
and once again, when it comes to the claims about the 2016 election...well...dude, it was actually proven that Russia was meddling with the election; as stated by the U.S. Intelligence agency...so...that actually ended up being true lmao the claims had actual legitimacy, that were looked into and actually discovered.
It wasn't really nonsense at all because of that, are you forgetting this? lmao so technically, the democrats could've thrown way more of a fit than they did. Because that election was actually tampered with.
whereas with this, there is absolutely no legitimacy what so ever. Voter fraud was looked into and shown to be false numerous times over. yet despite that...here we are.
no wonder you have to hang out on GAF when it turned red, you would get fucked up on any more neutral political forum lol so you run here to your echo chamber scared to deal with anyone else. Why else would you conveniently end up on this political forum when it magically turned primarily right wing lol you probably hid back when GAF was liberal af.
Has this been posted? I didn't want to create a thread for it, god this pissed me off:
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A Domestic Terrorism Bill Only Antifa Could Love
Moving swiftly on the wings of the violent disturbance on Capitol Hill on January 6, the newly sworn in Democratic-controlled 117th Congress is pushing a radical domestic terrorism bill that singles…amgreatness.com
Basically the bill sets the stage for a purge of law enforcement under the guise of 'white supremacy' and directs all resources to fighting right-wing terrorists while protecting the left.
whereas I see that you think in terms of party, seeing as you immediately admitted that you saw this backlash as an attack on the "republican party" and how your entire fucking argument is simply trying to showcase that "the other side did bad stuff too".
No. I was calling out the inconsistencies with anyone on the Left who are shocked and outraged over the Capital Hill riots but are totally OK with the violence and destruction we've seen in major cities the last 4 years, especially this summer.So you attribute any riots that happened and violence singularly to the """left"""? One political ideology?
Let me guess rodney king riots and katrina were the "left" too lol this capitol situation was far more objectively and purely political than riots that stem from a black guy getting killed by police.
Are you implying only the left gives a fuck about the black guy that got killed? That just makes republicans look bad....
Thats a major flaw in your thinking
Right. That's my main issue. Just be consistent and honest. I have more respect for people who outright acknowledge their calls for violence than I do for people who point the finger and ignore the violence that they themselves advocate for.One of the big arguments has been hipocrisy, from media, democrats and a big chunk on the left, so yes "the other side did bad stuff too", if only you could apply moral judgement consistently. Speaking of hipocrisy, out of context is a tactic used against Trump consistently, while the context of those clips is clear.
It doesn't matter if it's political or not, violence is violence, and it's wrong either way, we recognize that, while most of the democrats want to pretend it didnt happen and even worse take the moral high ground when by their own inpeachment logic, they contributed to it.
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Ha. Fantastic post.The Histrionic Trump Years - where there was nary an adult in the room between the Executive, Congress, Big Tech, MSM, Pundits et al
Outlier, Rasmussen showed it go up by like 1%, everyone else showed it crater like 5-8%. And Rasmussen now shows it down a couple points as well.I distinctly remember a poll a day or two after the events of the 6th, according to which 43% of Republicans actually approved of the storming of the capitol, as opposed to 41% or 42% who were against it. And didn’t Trump’s approval rating actually rise afterward? Or was that just some outlier poll?