TheOctodad
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I think the astonishment comes from a brand new, next gen console not being able to push 1080p/60fps on a relatively average looking game.
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PopCap dodges whether PvZ: Garden Warfare is 1080p on Xbox One (update: it's 900p)
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I think the astonishment comes from a brand new, next gen console not being able to push 1080p/60fps on a relatively average looking game.
jiminycracken
Banned
As someone who only gets 30 fps in Dead Space on these settings on the only gaming machine available not an Xbox One:
It sure is pretty relative.
True. Both systems should still impress though as these years go by.
Same was true for previous gens when there was a difference in power between the consoles but yet both consoles continued on improving and having good looking games.
Portugeezer
Member
dynamic weather in PS4 version confirmed. XB1 has baked in clouds confirmed.
TheOctodad
Member
Last generation was VERY different in terms of power and the gap between the two consoles. Not to mention the complicated nature of the cell processor.
I don't think this gen will be like that.
Mr Moose
Member
EA gonna EA, they rushed the shit out of that game so we'll never know what could've been.
I think they're likely to use their 8% boost to free up some fps and not resolution.
8% 720 is 777(?) (I am useless at Math so...) and that wouldn't scale well. (Probably totally wrong with this so someone correct me lol).
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
PvZ is exclusive, right? I'll never understand why an exclusive game wouldn't run at 1080p. 900p makes sense if you're trying to match the visuals of a multiplat game on PS4, but you don't have to worry about people comparing screenshots here.
Battlefield 4 on the PS4 looked great to me.
As do most 900p games so far since I played 720p/sub-HD games last gen and am not a PC gamer.
This. Talk about your hidden agenda...
Did they rush PvZ?
PS2 vs. Original Xbox was a bigger power gap. God of War (1) was a great example of what I said in my previous post.
famousmortimer
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Here is a quote from a developer that has worked on a major xbox one game.
Same guy who told me that parties were a mess before the launch, fwiw.
Same guy who told me that parties were a mess before the launch, fwiw.
SwiftDeath
Member
I'm intrigued. so it's not complex but it's a pain to work with?
To be honest, Battlefield 4 was a very demanding game.
"MS fanboys" want the most powerful machine (at least for multiplats) because it's what they are used to having.
I personally just care about the games/features a console has as long as it's greatly more powerful than what I had during the previous gen. Hence why I've switched brands these past almost 20 years or so for my primary gaming console.
Mr Moose
Member
Doubt it, its PvZ...
But expect micro-transactions :| even if they say otherwise.
lol
you have no idea how messy my parties are brah
I play a shit ton of Battlefield 4 for the PS4, and 900p is definitely more than serviceable. But compared to other games I own (NBA 2K14, Killzone Shadowfall, Warframe), it really lacks that sharpness that makes everything a lot easier to look at. If DICE were able to get BF4 up to 1080p, it would directly improve gameplay for me personally, as I'd be able to pick enemies out from the map environment a hell of a lot easier. Those maps are big, and incredibly busy. It would be helpful no doubt.
TheOctodad
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And the Xbox released about 1.5 years later.
When it comes to multi plats. PS4 is always going to have a substantial advantage.
Not arguing that the X1 won't have great exclusives. I think they will. But it's going to be behind and "giving it time" isn't going to change that very much.
Insane Metal
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Doubt it, its PvZ...
But expect micro-transactions :| even if they say otherwise.
Agree. EA + the game series is popular on mobile. Think it's inevitable.
Understandable. I can tell the difference between AC4 and other games that I have that are 1080p... Softer as you said. I don't mind it though. Still looks good to me (well, at least now that the sharpening filter is gone).
Yes, what I'm saying though is that both consoles will more than likely impress. PS2 was still putting out pretty impressive looking games during the same year the Xbox 360 released (God of War as I said before, Gran Turismo 4, Tekken 5, Okami, etc.). The first three months of a gen never have the best looking games. The power gap will definitely always be there but it doesn't mean the weaker console won't have impressive looking games -- especially if we are talking about games that don't go for a realistic visual style.
jediyoshi
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No splitscreen outside of the Xbox one version apparently. http://www.joystiq.com/2014/01/30/plants-vs-zombies-garden-warfare-split-screen-mode-exclusive-t/
Also confirmed no micro trans at launch, but they felt the need to specify the 'at launch' so that can't be a good thing.
I think the game looks really fun, especially the horde mode.
Also confirmed no micro trans at launch, but they felt the need to specify the 'at launch' so that can't be a good thing.
I think the game looks really fun, especially the horde mode.
TheOctodad
Member
Totally agree with you there. And I really hope that the X1 pulls out of this rut of sub-1080p resolutions though. I really like native resolutions on my TV.
Your quotes support exactly what I was saying ... unless I misunderstand you?
jiminycracken
Banned
We've known both of those things for a very long time. As well as DLC maps and modes will be free.
That pics is pretty inaccurate considering it has the ESRAM portion being significantly bigger than GDDR5.
Lol, got me. Its hard to tell if someone is serious or not when there is no
/s
jiminycracken
Banned
Most people in the thread think that it's a plants vs zombies game in the traditional, 2D tower defense format and don't think it actually has any intensive graphics when it's actually a 3D third person shooter.
jediyoshi
Member
You were correcting someone's point as to there being people under the impression this was a typical PvZ game. The posts I'm quoting are directly under that assumption.
That looks less complex than an xbox 360 game at 900p.....
vpance
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TheOctodad
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Ah, I guess I felt that those quotes were debatable. I read it as "it's just an XBLA type 3d shooter, not the next AAA nextgen title." No one in the quotes explicitly says they think it's a 2d PVZ game.
But I could have easily read it wrong!
jediyoshi
Member
What are more complex looking games on 360 that runs at a similar resolution?
My astonishment is that people would even care... Without counting pixels I was able to watch the trailer and draw the following conclusion:
Game looks fun as hell
Are you arguing that PvZ at 900p is an acceptable jump in performance for a new $500 console?
Thats good and all but that is not what this topic about honestly.
I enjoyed many games that are not 1080p but we are on new hardware now.and this will continue to get discuss.
TheOctodad
Member
You can think a game is fun and still wish it looked better. I do that all the time. It's not one or the other.
900P is nice, but I'd take 1080P over it any day as a really good improvement. Extra spatial sampling and the fact that my 70" is 1:1 mapping at 1080P means it's really good in open and semi-open worlds with long draw distances. In BF if can be the difference between seeing someone and getting a kill, vs them being able to flank and sneak up on you.
Here's a quick and dirty, that isn't the best comparison, but helps (need to be viewed on a 1080P or higher monitor)
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/63791
You can especially notice the detail/aliasing in the wires and the scaffolding at a distance / horizon. Unfortunately Eurogamer didn't have and head to head shots of MP, where thick vegetation, tree lines, and cover at medium or long distances would really show off the differences in detail resolved.
Diablohead
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Happy to hear it's 60fps, a lot of games so far have been 60 and I am enjoying it while the fad lasts.
i'm going to say blame it on the 360 version, as the xbox one version could just be built from that and having troubles at 1080p or something stupid.
i'm going to say blame it on the 360 version, as the xbox one version could just be built from that and having troubles at 1080p or something stupid.
IMACOMPUTA
Member
that'd look fine. It'd just be a blank colored screen.
It just rubs me the wrong way when people who are likely clueless about game development make snap judgments about whether a game is "complex" or "impressive" enough to warrant reduced resolution. Not that I'm an expert either, but I think it's more nuanced than that. Also the very fact that it's PvZ kind of messes with people's perspective maybe. Hope the game turns out good anyway, will probably play on PC.
Its the xbox one all in one entertainment system. A next generation system built to offer the latest innovation in graphics. It is 10x more powerful than the 360 and with the cloud, its 40x more powerful yet it is running a 360 game at 900p. Do you not find this shocking and or slightly embarrassing? The fact that you're comparing it to a 360 is sad.
Btw these games look better than PvZ:
Far Cry 3(X360)
Rage(X360)
Halo 4(X360)
These games might not run at a higher resolution but they do look a lot better than what ive seen from PvZ. If you were to bump up the resolution, they would look a lot better.
Neither.
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