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President Trump grabs another $3.5B from Pentagon for Border Wall

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The White House informed Congress Thursday it will siphon another $3.8 billion away from the Pentagon to build President Trump’s border wall, sparking a new wave of anger on Capitol Hill where lawmakers said he’s trampling on their powers and shortchanging the troops.

With the move, Mr. Trump has now funneled nearly $10 billion from Pentagon accounts toward his wall over the past two years.
 

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what happened to rebuilding our military with more funds than ever before or whatever
What good is having a military, when your Southern border is defenseless, and millions of people manage to slip inside away?

It's why me, as an observer who lives outside the U.S, is so perplexed by how little your politicians care about defending your own nation.

Idiots like Bush or Obama were happy to order foreign invasions and never ending drone strikes in the Middle East, yet the biggest risk of all wasn't Achmed and his Goat, it's illegal immigration seeping into your country and causing a drain on public tax dollars.

Achmed can recover from a couple bombs being dropped by $1 million warheads on his home. It's America that can't recover when you have no southern border left and everyone is free to take whatever they want from you guys.
 
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What good is having a military, when your Southern border is defenseless, and millions of people manage to slip inside away?

It's why me, as an observer who lives outside the U.S, is so perplexed by how little your politicians care about defending your own nations.

Idiots like Bush or Obama were happy to order foreign invasions and never ending drone strikes in the Middle East, yet the biggest risk of all wasn't Achmed and his Goat, it's illegal immigration seeping into your country and causing a drain on public tax dollars.
Trump is gutting our military and all you can think about is inflated numbers crossing the border

that's rich!
 

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Fewer dollars for bombs. Win-win.
I've been walkin' through your streets
Where all your money's earnin'
Where all your buildings cryin' and clueless neckties workin'
Revolving fake lawn houses, housin' all your fears
Desensitized by TV
Overbearin' advertisin', god of consumerism
And all your crooked pictures lookin' good
Mirrorism, filtering information for the public eye
Designed for profiteerin' your neighbor, what a guy

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Every time you drop the bomb
You kill the God your child has born
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Modern globalization, coupled with condemnations
Unnecessary death
Matador corporations
Puppeting your frustrations with the blinded flag
Manufacturing consent is the name of the game
The bottom line is money, nobody gives a fuck
4000 hungry children leave us per hour from starvation
While billions are spent on bombs, creating death showers!

Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom!
Every time you drop the bomb
You kill the God your child has born
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Why must we
Kill our own kind?

Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom!
Every time you drop the bomb
You kill the God your child has born

Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom!
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Every time you drop the bomb (Boom!)
 

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Trump is gutting our military and all you can think about is inflated numbers crossing the border

that's rich!
There's 11 million+ illegal immigrants living inside your country that refuse to leave.

You can say goodbye to your democracy when Democrats award them all citizenship and permanently change the tide of politics.

It's not your military you should worry about. Hell, who do you think is actually going to pay for it? The illegals don't care. Nobody who breaks into your country actually loves it. They just want the free stuff that they never built in their own countries.

In which case, your military would sooner collapse from what happens inside your borders, then from outside of it.
 
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People keep using saws to cut through the gate. So no.
This is considered an attack on the U.S. It is outright destruction or vandalism.

America is within their rights to disperse illegals from damaging their own property. Imagine if a foreign army attacked U.S buildings. Is that not an act of war?

Yet why do illegals running around with saws get to hurt America and get away with it?
 
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This is considered an attack on the U.S. It is outright destruction or vandalism.

America is within their rights to disperse illegals from damaging their own property. Imagine if a foreign army attacked U.S buildings. Is that not an act of war?

Yet why do illegals running around with saws get to hurt America and get away with it?
The bigger issue here is that building a wall that can be damaged by a saw is a waste of money.

That takes way more time than simply crossing a purely undefended border, though.
I mean the fact people can saw their say through and still not get caught means the wall failed. Rather than walls we need more people but the government are picky stingy assholes that would rather let a private company waste money building a wall.
 
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I mean the fact people can saw their say through and still not get caught means the wall failed. Rather than walls we need more people but the government are picky stingy assholes that would rather let a private company waste money building a wall.
Wouldn't that be more of an indictment against the security? There was also a video of 3 migrants climbing over the same fencing, but the one that got over got caught while the other 2 who were still on the Mexico side ran off.

The fencing is meant to slow down illegal migration. People expecting the new wall to be designed to actually be an impenetrable barrier are missing the point entirely.

The bigger issue here is that building a wall that can be damaged by a saw is a waste of money.
In which the fence can be repaired. It's far more cost effective than trying to detain the illegal migrant, taking him/her to court, and deporting him/her. Not to mention both the monetary and non-monetary costs when they commit crime...
 
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The fencing is meant to slow down illegal migration.
What happened to stopping immigration altogether and MAGA? That is not what were promised. Unless I missed something there was nothing about a wall slowing down and maybe stopping a few dudes here and there.
 

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The border patrol isn’t an arm of the military. Guess we missed the boat on that one! Could have used some F-22s to bomb some kids instead of locking them up.
*trespasses into another country*
*get sent to a detention center immediately*
*oh my god, wHy aRe thE kiDs bEiNg lOcKeD uP?!?!?!"


Maybe we should just let everyone run inside unchecked, where they could go on to murder Americans.
 
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What happened to stopping immigration altogether and MAGA? That is not what were promised. Unless I missed something there was nothing about a wall slowing down and maybe stopping a few dudes here and there.
Trump is being screwed by his own country.

A wall should be bipartisan. It's literally America's border. Yet there have been acts of sabotage for wanting to stop the flow of illegals into the country.

That is because, the other side wants cheap labor and votes from it.
 
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The border patrol isn’t an arm of the military. Guess we missed the boat on that one! Could have used some F-22s to bomb some kids instead of locking them up.
Trump has sent troops to the southern border before already.

Plus, you actually haven't shown that the military budget is being "gutted".

What happened to stopping immigration altogether and MAGA? That is not what were promised. Unless I missed something there was nothing about a wall slowing down and maybe stopping a few dudes here and there.
Because the wall isn't meant to the one-and-only end all, be all solution. It's about the set of solutions, not just one. If you're so caught up on that the wall is "only" an inhibitor while ignoring the other measures being put in such as ICE ramping up their enforcement, Mexico enforcing their illegal migration rules effectively acting as another line of defense, William Barr suing states and cities that declared themselves as sanctuaries, and Trump making the terms for asylum claims far more stringent, then you're missing the big picture.
 

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I love Trump's resourcefulness. The Dems won't dare give him the money he wants for the border wall because it'll anger their liberal base, so he just siphons it from the increased defense spending he knows the Dems will approve.
 

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Mexico has stepped up, however the large tunnel network used by the Cartels still exist as does their children born on our side of the border, who are now of age to take control of the business, which poses a different challenge.

 
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Trump is being screwed by his own country.

A wall should be bipartisan. It's literally America's border. Yet there have been acts of sabotage for wanting to stop the flow of illegals into the country.

That is because, the other side wants cheap labor and votes from it.
How would the other side get those votes from those people? They would be illegal in the US so they can't vote...
 

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How would the other side get those votes from those people? They would be illegal in the US so they can't vote...
They cross the border and immediately have children upon arrival.
Democrats pander to them by refusing to send them back while offering more free stuff.
 
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Would be nice for these emergency funds to go toward infrastructure in America that is needed domestically (bridges, roads, buildings) as opposed to partial portions of a wall that don't actually address immigration in the short term or long.

How would the other side get those votes from those people? They would be illegal in the US so they can't vote...
Democrat generally treat undocumented immigrants like people with their policies, as opposed to the general Republican view that they're an infestation to be targeted.
 

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Democrat generally treat undocumented immigrants like people with their policies, as opposed to the general Republican view that they're an infestation to be targeted.
So what's the point of an immigration system if everyone walks in uninvited?

Just rip up your proof of citizenship and watch your country collapse, since "free stuff" always comes at a price. America can let people in, who are vetted first, and arrive in actual small amounts.

But the entire world marching in means bye bye USA and hello Mexico again. Oh wait, they wont actually stay when America collapses. They'll be heading to the next 1st world country and the cycle begins again.
 
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I love the bunch of liberal whiners, complaining about the under 10 billion we've spent on a wall because they are taught to. Meanwhile, where were they when we spent the 23 trillion we are now in debt by?

We clearly have a problem of people pouring over our border. Our federal budget is 4 trillion per year. This just apparently makes no sense? Ok clown.
 
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Fine with me. He lied about how he would pay for it during his campaign. I am losing no sleep whatsoever if he takes it from the pentagon for border security instead. At least it's something in the US instead of the middle east.

Military spending currently is at an astronomical level, and just got increased almost $80 billion. It's more than the height of the Iraq War. It's flat out robbery. Any president I support would cut a HELL of a lot more than 3 billion from defense spending.
 

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So what's the point of an immigration system if everyone walks in uninvited?

Just rip up your proof of citizenship and watch your country collapse, since "free stuff" always comes at a price. America can let people in, who are vetted first, and arrive in actual small amounts.

But the entire world marching in means bye bye USA and hello Mexico again. Oh wait, they wont actually stay when America collapses. They'll be heading to the next 1st world country and the cycle begins again.
Welcome to Canada, don't worry Justine will be in Blackface to welcome all of PEOPLEkind into Canada LOL.
 

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They cross the border and immediately have children upon arrival.
Democrats pander to them by refusing to send them back while offering more free stuff.
LMAO young people don't vote or care about politics.
 

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Democrat generally treat undocumented immigrants like people with their policies, as opposed to the general Republican view that they're an infestation to be targeted.
I would argue half of Democrats want to treat illegal immigrants 'like Americans', with some giving them even more benefits than Americans. But they are not Americans. The other half are laughing as they create an underclass to exploit for votes and profit.

Republicans view illegal immigrants as... illegal. They are an inherent burden on any social safety net we want to create. They will necessarily harm poor communities as they will take low paying jobs under the table, jobs Americans would take otherwise.

The idea that Republicans don't view illegal immigrants as people is absurd. You dehumanize your opposition by claiming they dehumanize others, but you simply don't understand the motivations. Human trafficking does not treat people as human. Drug trafficking does not treat people as human. Ignoring our own citizens to provide services for people here illegally does not treat people as citizens. If we build a wall, people are less likely to make the journey. We can care better for Americans in need, and even for those already here illegally. A wall does not stop legal immigration, just those making a very dangerous journey.

Close the border. Fix America. We have plenty of American citizens who need that helping hand first. Legal immigration is still a thing. Claiming we need to care for people who travel hundreds if not thousands of miles through other countries just to get here is absurd.
 
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LMAO young people don't vote or care about politics.
So where do Democrats keep getting their numbers from?

Democrats are happy to play the long game, and when you look at states where illegal immigration is a huge problem, we do see a trend where their numbers keep increasing.
Further proof is look at the Texas counties that directly border Mexico. From light pink to dark blue. That can't be a coincidence.

 
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Democrat generally treat undocumented immigrants like people
I know I already responded this post but I forgot something.

Democrats do not treat them like people. Democrats are happy to bring in millions of illegals who are expected to work like slaves. Because they aren't actually "citizens" there is no possible way of regulating them. Hence why they work for sub minimum wages or they might live jam packed in a house.

This is another reason I'm against illegal immigration. Not only because they shouldn't be in our countries, but they exist only as an underclass to be exploited.
 
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So where do Democrats keep getting their numbers from?

Democrats are happy to play the long game, and when you look at states where illegal immigration is a huge problem, we do see a trend where their numbers keep increasing.
Further proof is look at the Texas counties that directly border Mexico. From light pink to dark blue.

A few things to point out here. Texas is mostly a red state. Not everybody that comes over is an illegal and even then people vote for whoever has their best interests at heart. That has to do more with tax breaks than anything. I live in the area, I can say most of these AMERICANS with Mexican parents don't vote or care. Why should they, all these people are crooks anyway. It is usually the middle aged people and older that actually vote.
 

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just remember this wouldn't be possible if the Democrats weren't fine with giving this "treasonous foreign asset" his own giant military budget that he can play with year after year.

but that just goes to prove how much the "sliding into fascism" talk is hot air.