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Project Cars 2 |OT| Buggy Racing At The Four Seasons
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I'm using a wheel. And taking it reeeeeeally easy on the throttle it still throws the car all over the track. On a straight, at 60 mph. It feels more like driving on ice.
I'll try some more cars to see if it's just the Aston Martins acting up. I've never had this much trouble driving on a wet surface in any other racing sim. And I have tried most of them.
I'll try some more cars to see if it's just the Aston Martins acting up. I've never had this much trouble driving on a wet surface in any other racing sim. And I have tried most of them.
I still don't get how the online reputation works. Last night I was F1450, but when I logged in today it somehow went back to U1553. Then I drove one perfectly clean race and it changed to U1559. I still don't know if I am supposed to aim for a high or low number. The page detailing this feature on the website was vague.
This was my experience with PC1 (on PS4 w/ controller) and PC2 is a thousand times better. Much, much more stable, at least for the cars I've tried.
+1 to this. You really can't go wrong with Horizon.
Yeah, super washed out and super noticeably so. Had me worried about the game at first, but its only that cinematic.
+1 to this. You really can't go wrong with Horizon.
Yeah, super washed out and super noticeably so. Had me worried about the game at first, but its only that cinematic.
Good God the handling on some of these cars with a controller is horrible, Xbox by the way
the NSX GT3 holy crap it just drifts left and right willy-nilly like it has a mind of its own.
it's kind of ridiculous it must be a bug wouldn't doubt there are several cars that are acting this way. I even tried restarting the game and it is still there fighting the car the whole time.
then other cars handle like a dream so this is a jekyll-and-hyde game right now. it's a shame because I'm starting to settle in on the graphics, (weather and lighting is tops) the feel, the challenge and then something like this comes up
the NSX GT3 holy crap it just drifts left and right willy-nilly like it has a mind of its own.
it's kind of ridiculous it must be a bug wouldn't doubt there are several cars that are acting this way. I even tried restarting the game and it is still there fighting the car the whole time.
then other cars handle like a dream so this is a jekyll-and-hyde game right now. it's a shame because I'm starting to settle in on the graphics, (weather and lighting is tops) the feel, the challenge and then something like this comes up
Not sure what cars you're using but jump into any invitational event for the higher end cars, tight courses. I just tried the UK lightweight track challenge with rain. Can't keep it straight. Got lapped by the AI on a 4 lap race. They comfortably drive through it while there is absolutely no way to keep up with their pace. Keeping it straight and driving at a reasonable speed through unavoidable puddles is impossible. The game just isn't clicking with me sadly. I didn't spin this much in PC1. The frustrating part is that I can't accept being 'bad' as a reason for not keeping up with the pack in those conditions. The game would benefit from an optional rewind feature too.
Will do, but I'm definitely still coming to grips to driving even the slower cars in the rain at speed. Rain changes everything. I'm curious about which cars are considered the worst on the controller though because so far I've been able to handle the cars I've tried decently enough - not at leaderboard competitive levels mind you - I'm not that good ;p
sim, but not up there with rFactor 2, iRacing, Automobilista and Assetto Corsa. It's very much on the easy side. And, please nobody tell me this "difficult doesn't mean realistic", we're talking about stuff that has Pro versions used by professional racing teams (AC and rF have, rFactor Pro is still used as the base for customized Formula 1 simulators used by all F1 teams).
Project CARS feels pretty damn awesome in my opinion though. The too fast lap times from Project CARS 1 are dialed down now too. It's easier to drive for me, mainly because the FFB is better, but I'm actually slower than in pCARS1.
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Now what I really wanted to say:
My biggest problem in pCARS1 was the braking. There were cars in pCARS1 that suffered from tremendous, insane understeer under braking even with a very rearward brake balance and even if no wheel actually locked up. Other cars were the other way round, the became super unstable and began to rotate with the slightest steering input under braking.
Half a year ago I wrote down 4 extreme incidences of this behavior with car/track/corner-name to check if this is still an issue in pCARS2. And actually they are either gone so very very dialed down, that my brain can believe them.
However, I just drove the McLaren P1 and that car was pretty unstable when trailbraking hard and become more unstable the further I shifted the brake balance to the front. It seems that when the inner front wheel locks up in a turn, the car turns in more, instead of less.
Also, electronic driving aids: The ABS (which I tried in the P1 as well) is working, but super low-tech and I found out that it's like that in all cars. Even race cars that have modern ABS. The traction control simulation is the same. Stability control is probably also more high tech now than what is presented in pCARS, but no other sim does that right, so that's forgiveable.
I think I'll keep all assists off in this one, even though I think it's stupid attitude in general and would never get this idea in Assetto Corsa for example. Maybe I'll keep a very low TCS in some cars, even with low-tech that can still make you faster in some cases I guess.
Project CARS feels pretty damn awesome in my opinion though. The too fast lap times from Project CARS 1 are dialed down now too. It's easier to drive for me, mainly because the FFB is better, but I'm actually slower than in pCARS1.
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Now what I really wanted to say:
My biggest problem in pCARS1 was the braking. There were cars in pCARS1 that suffered from tremendous, insane understeer under braking even with a very rearward brake balance and even if no wheel actually locked up. Other cars were the other way round, the became super unstable and began to rotate with the slightest steering input under braking.
Half a year ago I wrote down 4 extreme incidences of this behavior with car/track/corner-name to check if this is still an issue in pCARS2. And actually they are either gone so very very dialed down, that my brain can believe them.
However, I just drove the McLaren P1 and that car was pretty unstable when trailbraking hard and become more unstable the further I shifted the brake balance to the front. It seems that when the inner front wheel locks up in a turn, the car turns in more, instead of less.
Also, electronic driving aids: The ABS (which I tried in the P1 as well) is working, but super low-tech and I found out that it's like that in all cars. Even race cars that have modern ABS. The traction control simulation is the same. Stability control is probably also more high tech now than what is presented in pCARS, but no other sim does that right, so that's forgiveable.
I think I'll keep all assists off in this one, even though I think it's stupid attitude in general and would never get this idea in Assetto Corsa for example. Maybe I'll keep a very low TCS in some cars, even with low-tech that can still make you faster in some cases I guess.
Oh yea, didn't mean that it makes it "simcade" or so. Of course it's a sim, but pCARS1 too. But pCARS2 is just so much more coherent and the FFB is pretty great.
I'd say "it's still completely trying to be a sim ...that plays it rather forgiveable if guesswork is involved" - rather than pointing to the most likely to be realistic values/models and sticking to that if it makes things a bit shitty hard.
I'd say "it's still completely trying to be a sim ...that plays it rather forgiveable if guesswork is involved" - rather than pointing to the most likely to be realistic values/models and sticking to that if it makes things a bit shitty hard.
Well I'm not getting another PCars game for sure. Bought it only cause I thought it might actually drive a lot better than the first one, but not really. Some cars drive like shit, rain and snow is pretty much pointless as racing in those conditions is a nightmare. I'm not sure if it's a bug or not but it's not good. Will wait till Forza 7 and it goes off my hard drive.
I'm going to be going a bit off-topic here
I'd agree that the FFB feels a lot better in this than in the first game but I do have one minor issue and I'm wondering if you have the same problem. When I'm not moving there seems to be some wheel shake, like the wheel wobbles left and right for no reason. This'll happen in the pits or anywhere else if I'm parked. It doesn't seem to affect the car while moving but it's stupid that I have to hold the wheel still when parked, especially since I park a lot while practicing in order to dial in my settings. Seems to be an issue with every car I've tried so far.
I'd agree that the FFB feels a lot better in this than in the first game but I do have one minor issue and I'm wondering if you have the same problem. When I'm not moving there seems to be some wheel shake, like the wheel wobbles left and right for no reason. This'll happen in the pits or anywhere else if I'm parked. It doesn't seem to affect the car while moving but it's stupid that I have to hold the wheel still when parked, especially since I park a lot while practicing in order to dial in my settings. Seems to be an issue with every car I've tried so far.
I have assists on authentic and it's actually pretty great to drive with a controller, especially indy cars, took them to spa since I know the track and could push the car and I just kept on doing round after round after round 
Only car that is terrible to drive (so far) is that Mazda one, even the Caterham which some user said is a nightmare is ok. Are authentic assists still holding your hand too much?
Only car that is terrible to drive (so far) is that Mazda one, even the Caterham which some user said is a nightmare is ok. Are authentic assists still holding your hand too much?
I just leave the car rolling on a straight at >5mph. Not an issue for me. All sims have low-speed problems and usually what they do is make the wheel artificially heavy below a very low threshold.
My biggest annoyance are the shifter issues. And probably they are not a priority (or I definitely could see SMS say "for competitiveness sake, you can't shift faster than flappy pedal users, even in IRL H-pattern cars". What I really want to drive are the cool older cars, Group 5, Group 6, all pre-90s F1. All completely broken with a shifter. If I force myself to shift slower than I would even a normal 90s road car, then I'm exploding with anger on the inside. It's like splitting my personal "want to drive" - car list in half at the moment.
My biggest annoyance are the shifter issues. And probably they are not a priority (or I definitely could see SMS say "for competitiveness sake, you can't shift faster than flappy pedal users, even in IRL H-pattern cars". What I really want to drive are the cool older cars, Group 5, Group 6, all pre-90s F1. All completely broken with a shifter. If I force myself to shift slower than I would even a normal 90s road car, then I'm exploding with anger on the inside. It's like splitting my personal "want to drive" - car list in half at the moment.
After ~5 laps or so and some further controller settings tweaking, I managed a 1:39:039 -
Which is currently the 11th fastest time set with a pad, but ~10 seconds off the fastest time set with a wheel. In the screenshot you can see the player "red fox and green raccoon" who has the current fastest time set with a pad and is still ~7 seconds off the fastest overall time. I could definitely shave another ~3 seconds off if I practised a bit more, but the car feels so bad to drive it's not something I even want to do. Like I can take the last sweeping, right hand corner at full throttle and the car is stable, but in some of the slower corners and even in a straight line the car either pulls or twitches about and just feels way too unstable, especially for an AWD car.
Yeah some cars feel fucking horrible to drive with a pad. I never had a problem with cars in the first game just drifting to the right or left while accelerating in a straight line like their suspension is busted. Then other cars like the Formula Rookie cars are an absolute blast to drive and don't exhibit any drifting/instability issues some of the other cars have.
It has to be some kind of physics/set-up bug with certain cars.
Yeah some cars feel fucking horrible to drive with a pad. I never had a problem with cars in the first game just drifting to the right or left while accelerating in a straight line like their suspension is busted. Then other cars like the Formula Rookie cars are an absolute blast to drive and don't exhibit any drifting/instability issues some of the other cars have.
It has to be some kind of physics/set-up bug with certain cars.
Anyone else not getting along with the race director?
I've been blasting Mount Panorama for a little bit this morning just in a test session. He keeps deleted my laps on the first corner in the Sierra Cosworth when I'm not even touching the kerbs.
Besides track limits, what else could he be picking me up on?
I've been blasting Mount Panorama for a little bit this morning just in a test session. He keeps deleted my laps on the first corner in the Sierra Cosworth when I'm not even touching the kerbs.
Besides track limits, what else could he be picking me up on?
I'm a bit of a setup junkie in these sorts of games, and while PC2's tuning menu is generally intuitive and nicely laid out, what in the name of fuck is going on in the differential page?
The options are borderline incomprehensible, and the explanatory text only makes it more so. I feel positively dense trying to decipher this shit.
The options are borderline incomprehensible, and the explanatory text only makes it more so. I feel positively dense trying to decipher this shit.
Good to know about the CPU performance.
I'm going to reveal to everyone a dark secret:
Still enjoying some mostly 60fps gameplay, my worries were unfounded apparently.
Oh, I asked around about the online reputation. According to some peeps I asked in online races, it looks like the letter grade is a safety rating and the number is a performance rating with a higher number being an indicator of better performance.
I'm going to reveal to everyone a dark secret:
I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 840.
Still enjoying some mostly 60fps gameplay, my worries were unfounded apparently.
Oh, I asked around about the online reputation. According to some peeps I asked in online races, it looks like the letter grade is a safety rating and the number is a performance rating with a higher number being an indicator of better performance.
I'm a bit of a setup junkie in these sorts of games, and while PC2's tuning menu is generally intuitive and nicely laid out, what in the name of fuck is going on in the differential page?
The options are borderline incomprehensible, and the explanatory text only makes it more so. I feel positively dense trying to decipher this shit.
The options are borderline incomprehensible, and the explanatory text only makes it more so. I feel positively dense trying to decipher this shit.